I recently read where 86% of the PH's that are wounded, are wounded by a leopard (article at African Hunter)

I recieved this earlier today From Fritz Reinhard who I hunted with in April, in regards to a hunt he just completed with a gentleman from the US:

"Just back from Caprivi, finished my hunt with Larry very successfully, 2 elephants as well as an leopard from your tree. He wounded him and we followed next day. Attacked us and Larry got some scratches and the bastard bit into my foot until we finally killed him. We followed a couple of times good lion tracks but concentrated on elephant and leopard"

I don't know any of the particulars surrounding the shot, but would imagine from hunting there that it was probably at or near dusk. It was obviously not a good one. If I get any particulars, I'll follow-up.

This goes to show, it can and does happen.

Regards,

Bill

Oh damn! There goes that dangerous game isn't thing.

Jaw-ja deer here I come!

Ouch!

Did you hunt ele there?

It does not happen because I read where N. Garret says that Dangerous Game Isn't.

Guess the dang cat didn't read the thread!

Or N. Garret hasn't had his toes nibbled on by a spotted kitty.

Scratches and a bit foot. Doesn't sound "dangerous" to me, just mildly disconcerting. Of course, I'm an attorney who has never had any of his close friends die from pursuing their "on the edge" sporting hobbies, so what the hell do I know?

Regards,

Terry

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Apologies to Bill as we are making fun of someone at the expense of his post. Great story though and I hope we do get some more details or even photos.

Will, I hunted leopard, buffalo and hyena. I may be returning in Oct for lion, which are hunted by tracking w/the bushman trackers. It is full of very big bodied elephants, and we saw some dandies, but they ain't cheap!

Ann, no apologies necessary, trust me

Bill C,

Yeah, those two eles that "Larry" took must have cost more than my house. They're out of my league.

I tried getting one of the big-bodied ele's one time near Matetsi but never connected. I can't afford Matetsi, which is why I hunt those pygmy types in the Zambezi valley.

Bill, is there that much difference in elephant trophy fees in different areas of Zim?

Rick.

Assuming you are asking me, no, the eles in Zim are all pretty much the same price outside of Matetsi, including the cheaper PAC hunts.

The Matetsi area, Botswana and Namibia have bigger bodied elephant and are much more expensive, from my knowledge. There is always the possibility of bigger ivory due to bigger body size and the higher cost (less competition and lower quotas).

Hey, if I had the money I'd be hunting those $30-35K eles in Botswana! I'm hunting for quantity not quality.

Rick,

They are taking some real nice elephant from the Tsholotsho area of ZIM (next to Hwange National Park), but I think they are asking about $30,000 for them.

Will (Bill),

Have you looked at the prices in Botswana lately? The elephant hunts I've seen are starting at $40,000 and go up from there.

Regards,

Terry

Terry,

My point exactly....way too much money. The apparently standard method of hunting eles near Hwange is to drive up and down the boundary and try to pop them off before they scoot back into the park. To each his own, I guess.

Last time I looked at a trophy rate sheet for elephant in one of the Matetsi areas on a regular dangerous game hunt....elephant, buffalo, lion, leopard and plainsgame....the daily rate was either $1000 or $1200 a day with a 21-day min for all 4 of the Big 5. Trophy fees were $2000 for buff, $3500 for lion, $2500 for leopard and a sliding scale for elephant that went up, as I recall, to $25K for one over 70 lbs. The area I hunted in was lousy with elephants and a German hunter had shot one with tusks that were in the mid-80s a month before I got into camp. They had also taken a pair in the low-90s the year before.

The elephants in question move across the border from Namibia and Botswana looking for water (the Zambezi) during the season and I understand the hunting is especially good late in the year when it gets drier and the elephant movement into the area accelerates. The same applies to buffalo and of course the lion follow the herds.

This is a photo of one of the larger elephants we saw (we saw several in this size as well as half a dozez or so that we larger)...we werent' hunting elephant and they were a nuisance as far as I was concerned. We saw this one early in the morning and the PH wanted to take a better look so we did...this was a very large bodied elephant.

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