Hello,
Friend of mine asked if it is true that the subject Gov't is charging an additional $5,000.00 fee for the taking of an elephant.
Can anyone give me the true story on this matter. Favor center!!
dsiteman

I was given this answer from Joe Wright of National Safaris

In Mozambique the government charges a "license" fee of $5 000 plus trophy fees of $18 000 when the elephant is shot. The initial license fee is non refundable whether the elephant is shot or not. This license fee I am told has now been increased to $6 000 for this year.

Kathi,

I am assumming this is for trophy ann not PAC elephants????????

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Originally posted by dsiteman:
Hello,
Friend of mine asked if it is true that the subject Gov't is charging an additional $5,000.00 fee for the taking of an elephant.
Can anyone give me the true story on this matter. Favor center!!
dsiteman

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dsiteman

For 653 time’s PAC elephants can not be legally hunted in Mozambiqe by tourist hunters!!!

The government license fee is payable for any legal shot elephant up front then only a tag is issued! This applies to all animals.

Penalties according to the Mozambican law: Lei n ° 10/99 by decree from the Counsel of Minister’s from 07 July 1999:

Hunting outside hunting season 30 000 000.00MT
Hunting at night 15 000 000.00MT
Hunting in protected area 10 000 000.00MT
Hunting without valid Hunting license 30 000 000.00MT
Hunting of protected species (in Moz) 100 000 000.00MT
Hunting without a prepaid tag in your possession see blow

Further for each shot animal shot without a tag the penalty is 8 times the regular tag / license fee plus the license fee. All equipment, guns, car, trophy etc will be confiscated.
Till the court case is finalized cozy accommodation will be provide “ free of charge†in the local jail, sorry no single accommodation and you have to supply your own food!

Elephant license fee is 100 000 000.00MT proposed to up to 120 000 000.00MT

For instance your shoot a elephant without having a tag its works out to
900 000 000.00MT at a exchange rate at around 19 000.00MT(Metical) to 1US$ your elephant cost you the sum of 47 368.42US$ plus your gun, binos etc. add layers cost, rebooking your flight etc . And I don’t know which sicknesses you pickup in jail.

Do a search on the subject on AR.

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Originally posted by Kathi:
I was given this answer from Joe Wright of National Safaris

In Mozambique the government charges a "license" fee of $5 000 plus trophy fees of $18 000 when the elephant is shot. The initial license fee is non refundable whether the elephant is shot or not. This license fee I am told has now been increased to $6 000 for this year.

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Kathi


The Mozambique government only charges for the license ( Tag) and do not charge a trophy fee. Trophy fee a charged by the concession owner and outfitter, the sum you mention is on the high to “insane†side. most legal outfitter charge between 7-10 k for trophy fees. You a correct that the tag is nonrefundable. You should pay around 22k for a 14 day hunt or 30-32k for a 21 day legal hunt including trophy and license fee.

National Safaris, Joe Wright is he operating in Mozambique?

Hello,
Thanks to all for the responses. It is appreciated and will pass on to my friend.
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dsiteman

frei,

Nice tone.............you should spend more time in the political forum.

Dear Kathi

Thanks for the reply. It is correct that license fees are set by Parks and trophy fees are dictated by the operator ie. In Zimbabwe our trophy fee is $10 000 whilst in Mozambique it is $18 000.

It is a matter of supply and demand for quality elephant hunts. We have averaged over 70lbs in Mozambique for the last 4 years there whilst Zimbabwe is probably at 40lbs so a client will pay more for a big elephant.

In the Northern concessions of Mozambique around the Niassa game Reserve the three elephant on quota are sold as follows:

21 days (daily rate) 40 000

Trophy fee 21 000*

* Eelphant + 80lbs largest tusk additional $20 000 fine applicable
Elephant 45lbs and below $10 000 fine applicable (Niassa Reserve Conditions)

In other words if you shoot an elephant over 80lbs which is very probable then your trophy fee will be $41 000 plus $40 000 daily rate (total $81 000). The same will apply if you shoot a "small" elephant under 45lbs where trophy fee will be $31 000 plus daily rate of $40 000 (total $71 000). The govt is trying to prevent clients from shooting the very big tuskers which I personally do not agree with. They are also penalising those that shoot an immature elephant with tusks of 45lbs and below which is a good idea.

The above hunts are offered by Luwire Safaris (Lugenda Wildlife Reserve) and they are fully booked for the next two years. We offer hunts in the Caborra Bassa region and our daily rates are $27 000 plus $18 000 trophy fee and $5 000 license fee and we are fully booked as well for the next two years. Both areas only take 3 bulls per annum so quality is guaranteed.

Whoever states that these fees are in the high to insane levels does not obviously follow price trends for quality elephant hunts in Africa. Botswana levels are around the $45 000 level all in as well. I would look at it the other way, if someone was offered an elephant hunt in Mozambique for say $25 000 then this would be a very dubious hunt probably done with local authority only (not central government authority) and probably as a problem animal control hunt for which there are no export tags issued.

I know of one such hunt conducted last year and the client is still awaiting his trophies having been told that there is a hold up with the export tags - bye bye trophies would be my comment right now. All of our elephant trophies have been exported from Mozambique with no problem, but Americans should be made aware that they are not allowed to import Moz ivory into US even though they may have a Cites export tag for their trophy from the Mozambique authorities. This is because US Fish and Wildlife do not accept that Moz has a proper management programme for elephant.

I hope that this clarifies the position.

Regards

Joe

Damn, making the big bucks in Moz.

I was telling my friend,Sam Pancotto about this thread and he kindly sent me the 1973 Safari prices for Mozambique. I thought the AR members would enjoy reading what we missed.

SAFRIQUE, Beira, Mocambique 1973 season

Game license- A model I license costs $180 U.S. is valid for 30 days and allows you to hunt the following animals:

1 buffalo 2 warthog 1 impala
2 bush pig 1 oribi 1 zebra
1 hartebeest 1 suni 1 red duiker
1 bushbuck 1 bush duiker 1 grysbok
1 reedbuck 1 waterbuck

14 days hunt- no lion or leopard permitted
21 days hunt- choice of one of the two cats
30 days hunt- both cats allowed-one of each

Extra coupons may be purchased as under:

1 elephant-----US $140
1 elephant without tusks---US $100
1 lion---US $200
1 buffalo--- US $40
1 kudu---US $48
1 sable---US $48
1 leopard---US $200
1 eland----US $48
1 nyala----US $80

Please note that extra game coupons must be purchased from the government before the safari starts and that they are non-refundable.

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Originally posted by freischuetz:
... your (illegal) elephant cost you the sum of 47 368.42US$ plus your gun, binos etc. add layers cost, rebooking your flight etc .

It seems that a legal jumbo costs much more than an illegal jumbo in Moz. That is rather odd.

Will

Some people apparently do make big bucks in Mozambique good luck to them.

In the Marromeu complex on the south bank of the Zambezi we got 5 operators 4 concessions and 1 game farm all with legal elephant allocation and there prices are around 30-35k for the elephant hunt. Buffalo hunts at around 8-10k. This is with some of the oldest outfitters operating in Mozambique. I personally cant se an extra 40 000k value for additional quality?

If the market gets pushed up, like this, then it is just a matter of time before it will collapse. It is very dangerous for the survival of hunting just talking about prices like this. Government officials and the population will be thinking that all of us make millions they will generalize this profits and will increase their fees and cuts. Conservation / hunting will collapse because only few can afford to this prices. In the end everyone will loose and wildlife will disappear.
A few rich do not carry Hunting and conservation worldwide; it is directly and indirectly supported by the average working man. If he can’t afford to hunt anymore then everything archived in the last decades will disintegrate.

“If it pays it stays†this slogan is correct at the moment but only because this was the quick fix for conservation. This is the wrong reason, what is going to happen if it does not pay anymore?

Maybe direct marketing via Internet would make hunting more affordable?
Cutting out the cost for hunting shows, travel expenses, leaflets, hunt donation, fancy camps and expensive hunting vehicles; helicopters, private aircrafts and the other gizmos would lower the prices considerably. Then concession holder could cut their hunting prices by 30-40% all this is carried by the clients at the moment.

I understand the problem of booking long distance without knowing the people personally, but if the operation is verifiable legal and established over a period of time got some references and why not.

Hunting is about hunting and if you prepare yourself properly have your expectation under control you will have a good enjoyable and affordable hunt. I don’t believe that all the big name PH’s hunters are worth a super premium? IMO if you take a good local tracker you could do most hunting yourself?
You are the hunter?

500 Grains

Not all the legal elephants a more than an illegal one.

A old used car dealer told me once after asking him who is going to pay this much for this heap of scrap? He replied, “ Every day fools wakeup and one day one will come and buy the heap of scrapâ€


Good hunting
Freischuetz