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Guys

I've just started using my second pair of these boots and already the soles have started to delaminate at the toe. It really cheeses me off as the same thing happened with the first pair. 2 mates of mine have been using the Safari model and the soles are still as good as gold despite being much older and more worn than my new Selous's.

Has anyone else had this problem? What did you do about it? Is it just the Selous model? Am I just unlucky as usual?

Cheers.

GG
 
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I have had about eight pairs of Hunters, Sandels and Safaris plus half a dozen for mates.
Two pair of Safaris have had the toe start to peel or side stitching come apart.
Should be able to re glue with Tyre tube repair glue??
 
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I had the same problem on a pair of Safaris I got from Westley Richards in London. It happened after about 3 weeks.
The Westley Richards London guy was very unhelpful and even after sending the boots back it took many many weeks before they refunded me.
I later got some Selous from a German company who were very helpful indeed.
So - good boots, some quality control problems, but careful where you buy them. There's a company in RSA called Gordons Footwear or something. They seem to sell Courteneys cheap too.
 
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My experience was problems with fitment. The toe box just isn't high enough and put enough downward pressure on my toes to be uncomfortable. I have low arches so that may contribute.
 
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My experience was problems with fitment. The toe box just isn't high enough and put enough downward pressure on my toes to be uncomfortable.


Same for me. You can force something into the toe box when the shoe is wet or damp, then let it dry, and it will help to raise the leather a little.


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Posts: 7046 | Location: Rambouillet, France | Registered: 25 June 2004Reply With Quote
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I have not had any problems at all...love em


Mike

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What I have learned on AR, since 2001:
1. The proper answer to: Where is the best place in town to get a steak dinner? is…You should go to Mel's Diner and get the fried chicken.
2. Big game animals can tell the difference between .015 of an inch in diameter, 15 grains of bullet weight, and 150 fps.
3. There is a difference in the performance of two identical projectiles launched at the same velocity if they came from different cartridges.
4. While a double rifle is the perfect DGR, every 375HH bolt gun needs to be modified to carry at least 5 down.
5. While a floor plate and detachable box magazine both use a mechanical latch, only the floor plate latch is reliable. Disregard the fact that every modern military rifle uses a detachable box magazine.
6. The Remington 700 is unreliable regardless of the fact it is the basis of the USMC M40 sniper rifle for 40+ years with no changes to the receiver or extractor and is the choice of more military and law enforcement sniper units than any other rifle.
7. PF actions are not suitable for a DGR and it is irrelevant that the M1, M14, M16, & AK47 which were designed for hunting men that can shoot back are all PF actions.
8. 95 deg F in Africa is different than 95 deg F in TX or CA and that is why you must worry about ammunition temperature in Africa (even though most safaris take place in winter) but not in TX or in CA.
9. The size of a ding in a gun's finish doesn't matter, what matters is whether it’s a safe ding or not.
10. 1 in a row is a trend, 2 in a row is statistically significant, and 3 in a row is an irrefutable fact.
11. Never buy a WSM or RCM cartridge for a safari rifle or your go to rifle in the USA because if they lose your ammo you can't find replacement ammo but don't worry 280 Rem, 338-06, 35 Whelen, and all Weatherby cartridges abound in Africa and back country stores.
12. A well hit animal can run 75 yds. in the open and suddenly drop with no initial blood trail, but the one I shot from 200 yds. away that ran 10 yds. and disappeared into a thicket and was not found was lost because the bullet penciled thru. I am 100% certain of this even though I have no physical evidence.
13. A 300 Win Mag is a 500 yard elk cartridge but a 308 Win is not a 300 yard elk cartridge even though the same bullet is travelling at the same velocity at those respective distances.
 
Posts: 10186 | Location: Loving retirement in Boise, ID | Registered: 16 December 2003Reply With Quote
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I've got two pairs of Selous boots and the only problem I have with them is that I don't get to ware them enough! I hunted in the first pair the day after buying them with no problems at all. Excellent boots for my big flipper feet.

Colin
 
Posts: 180 | Location: South Africa | Registered: 16 March 2007Reply With Quote
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This is like all the product reviews. Folks either love them or hate them.

They never fit me and I think they are way over-priced for what they are.

I rate them 2.1274569 STARS. Smiler


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Will,

As usual, you are so wrong...

They are at least 2.12875 stars and you know it...

I had my custom made in 2000 at the factory and only paid $125.


Mike

Legistine actu quod scripsi?

Never under estimate the internet community's ability to reply to your post with their personal rant about their tangentially related, single occurrence issue.




What I have learned on AR, since 2001:
1. The proper answer to: Where is the best place in town to get a steak dinner? is…You should go to Mel's Diner and get the fried chicken.
2. Big game animals can tell the difference between .015 of an inch in diameter, 15 grains of bullet weight, and 150 fps.
3. There is a difference in the performance of two identical projectiles launched at the same velocity if they came from different cartridges.
4. While a double rifle is the perfect DGR, every 375HH bolt gun needs to be modified to carry at least 5 down.
5. While a floor plate and detachable box magazine both use a mechanical latch, only the floor plate latch is reliable. Disregard the fact that every modern military rifle uses a detachable box magazine.
6. The Remington 700 is unreliable regardless of the fact it is the basis of the USMC M40 sniper rifle for 40+ years with no changes to the receiver or extractor and is the choice of more military and law enforcement sniper units than any other rifle.
7. PF actions are not suitable for a DGR and it is irrelevant that the M1, M14, M16, & AK47 which were designed for hunting men that can shoot back are all PF actions.
8. 95 deg F in Africa is different than 95 deg F in TX or CA and that is why you must worry about ammunition temperature in Africa (even though most safaris take place in winter) but not in TX or in CA.
9. The size of a ding in a gun's finish doesn't matter, what matters is whether it’s a safe ding or not.
10. 1 in a row is a trend, 2 in a row is statistically significant, and 3 in a row is an irrefutable fact.
11. Never buy a WSM or RCM cartridge for a safari rifle or your go to rifle in the USA because if they lose your ammo you can't find replacement ammo but don't worry 280 Rem, 338-06, 35 Whelen, and all Weatherby cartridges abound in Africa and back country stores.
12. A well hit animal can run 75 yds. in the open and suddenly drop with no initial blood trail, but the one I shot from 200 yds. away that ran 10 yds. and disappeared into a thicket and was not found was lost because the bullet penciled thru. I am 100% certain of this even though I have no physical evidence.
13. A 300 Win Mag is a 500 yard elk cartridge but a 308 Win is not a 300 yard elk cartridge even though the same bullet is travelling at the same velocity at those respective distances.
 
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Will
I dont want to nit pick, but probably only 2.12745685 stars.
 
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I have'nt had any boots last longer than 8 months Confused
 
Posts: 90 | Location: South Africa | Registered: 02 October 2009Reply With Quote
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I am a field staffer for Russell Moccasin, but do love my Courtney's as well, but not for hunting.

It is a small miracle that they can continue to produce anything at all given the circumstances in Zim.

All companies have QC problems from time to time - Hell, I once had a Purdey DR new from the factory that required additional tweaking on one of the ejectors to make it work properly - S#!t happens!

I urge all AR member to buy a pair of Courtneys they are great all around boots - this coming from the competition!

JW
 
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Originally posted by JohnHunt:
My experience was problems with fitment. The toe box just isn't high enough and put enough downward pressure on my toes to be uncomfortable.


Same for me. You can force something into the toe box when the shoe is wet or damp, then let it dry, and it will help to raise the leather a little.



Same here ! !
 
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Guys

I've just started using my second pair of these boots and already the soles have started to delaminate at the toe. It really cheeses me off as the same thing happened with the first pair.

I have owned one pair and will never waste my money on another, due to the exact same problem (on both boots)
 
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I had some custom made from my skins in '01. They sucked for fit, very uncomfortable. Fit okasy, gavew them away, NEVER AGAIN
 
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I've had a total of about seven pairs since about 1991 and they are by far my favorite shoe for africa.

They wear like iron and are made of things that one can believe in. Real leather, real rubber, and made by hand by real people. They also remind me of africa and nights around a mopane fire just to look at them. For my feet they are fine right out of the box to chase buffalo.

In the interest of full disclosure, one pair did develop a vertical crack (split) from the middle of the heel forward for about 2 inches. They were exotic skin and had been worn little but were about a year old. They were returned to bulawayo and repaired at moderate cost.

I really felt they should have repaired (resoled) them at no cost since I had to pay the shipping but that's my only gripe.

Adrian
 
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Okay, thanks for the replies guys - sounds like it's a bit of a lucky dip whether you get a good pair or a crap pair (sole wise). I love everything else about them tho.

I'm not gonna wear the expense of sending them back to be fixed so I'll be doing it myself. Ozhunter mentioned some sort of tyre repair glue. I was thinking maybe some black sikaflex. Anyone got any thoughts on adhesives to glue the sole back to the upper?

Cheers.

GG
 
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The best glue for your repair is "Barge Cement" available from a shoe repair guy if you can find one these days. This is sticky stuff! A bit on your finger, and it has to wear off. Another alternative is "super glue" in one of it's many forms; gell might be best for your repair.

I loved my Courtenys from the moment I put them on. Perfect for my hard to fit WIDE, Celtic, flat feet. I bought the "Safari" model, a bit lower in height than the "Selious"

Best of luck, SXS
 
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I like the idea of supporting the guys who take the time to make them, I enjoy the "real" materials of what they're made of, and I enjoy that they conjure up images of Africa, but I just cannot stand the way they look on my feet.. HUGE and flat with a resemblance to Ronald McDonald's size 44EEE reds, or a nice leathery set of diving fins. That did it for me and I've never been able to buy a pair.
 
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Does anyone know how to get blood stains out?


I meant to be DSC Member...bad typing skills.

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This is like all the product reviews. Folks either love them or hate them.

They never fit me and I think they are way over-priced for what they are.

I rate them 2.1274569 STARS. Smiler


I agree with Will, I like them but I can never find a pair to fit me! I also agree they are much over priced, for the product they are, especially in the USA. The last pair I had I gave away to another poster here on AR, because they just didn't fit me right!


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Does anyone know how to get blood stains out?


I've got a pair of Timberland ancle hight hikers with a smeer of Wildebeast blood on the right toe cap that has been there since 1992, and they have been worn hunting almost every year sinse! So I guess once it get into the leather, it is there for good. Confused


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Don't know anything about the Courtenay boots, but my Courtney boots have performed well in Africa and here at home with no problems. Wink

Larry Sellers
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like any good boot, be it the likes of Scarpa, Miendel, La Sportiva, Russel and Zamberland, some brands will suit your foot and some wont.
Yes, COURTENEY boots are over priced. They should cost no more than $120 IMO.

Oh, and Ive seen my share of top $$ Mindel's de-laminate or have the internal synthetic sole fall apart.
 
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Don't know anything about the Courtenay boots, but my Courtney boots have performed well in Africa and here at home with no problems. Wink

Larry Sellers
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Dear Frederick,

Hey, if you are going to try to live up to my smart-ass standards, you need to check your spelling ... Courteney Smiler


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Will / Once you've been amongst them, there is no such thing as too much gun.
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and, God Bless John Wayne. NRA Benefactor, GOA, NAGR
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"Elephant and Elephant Guns" $99 shipped.
“Hunting Africa's Dangerous Game" $20 shipped.

red.dirt.elephant@gmail.com
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Will, They do make a Tiva like sandle than might suit your feet.... stir
 
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Ozzie,

No, but they do make my size in a Teva ... SANDAL. Smiler


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Will / Once you've been amongst them, there is no such thing as too much gun.
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and, God Bless John Wayne. NRA Benefactor, GOA, NAGR
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"Elephant and Elephant Guns" $99 shipped.
“Hunting Africa's Dangerous Game" $20 shipped.

red.dirt.elephant@gmail.com
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If anything be of note, let it be he was once an elephant hunter, hoping to wind up where elephant hunters go.

 
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Touche Wink
And talking about over priced foot ware ...
 
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I've had several pair of Courteney; Safari, Tracker, Highveld, Bushveld, Campfire, and Vellie. Fit great, break-in is instant. No problems. I've heard Courteney has moved to South Africa.
 
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I have been wearing Selous since 2001 and do not have anything I like more for being quiet, cool, and comfortable. I am a size 15 and yes they do make them.


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Couldn't resist, just checking the "spell checkers" out there. Will/Bill gets an "A" for observation. Courtenay, Corteny, Courteny or Courteney, I guess we all know they are boots? clap

Larry Sellers
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quote:
Originally posted by Larry Sellers:
Don't know anything about the Courtenay boots, but my Courtney boots have performed well in Africa and here at home with no problems. Wink

Larry Sellers
SCI Life Member


Dear Frederick,

Hey, if you are going to try to live up to my smart-ass standards, you need to check your spelling ... Courteney Smiler
 
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