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It is not normal that I would post this story, but this was quite funny. A man from NY called me and asked, "Um ... so, uh, are you a hunter?" I knew where it was going from here. His voice was shaky and he was obviously nervous. His intention was to set this Elephant hunter straight. (Even though I have never shot one.) He said, "Did you know that what you do is forbidden in the bible?" "No, I didn't know that." "It is." "That's nice, can you read me the passage?" Well he fumbled around and finally read an obscure quote he found on the internet, that ... try as I might, I could not figure out how it opposed Elephant hunting, or hunting in general. The next 20 minutes was the most entertaining debate you have ever heard. This guy would say something and I would spend the next few minutes politely handing his ass back to him. There was a lot of silence on his part. I would answer his question, then there was silence and he would start again. "Well, ok, but ... " In the end he just gave up. He finally said. "Um, well ok, uh thanks." If he was listening, he learned a ton about Africa and game management. The final blow was a question I asked him. "Did you know that it is written in the bible that God put animals on the earth for man's use?" "Yes." There wasn't much left to talk about. From a debate standpoint, it was a total bloodbath. This poor guy didn't have a chance. It was the most polite ass whoppin' I have ever dealt out. I am still geeked about it. | ||
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Wendell! 465H&H | |||
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Well done.........! Brad Brad Rolston African Hunting P.O. Box 506 Stella 8650 Kalahari South Africa Tel : + 27 82 574 9928 Fax : + 27 86 672 6854 E-Mail : rolston585ae@iafrica.com | |||
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Yes, Wendell you're my HERO! | |||
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Why did he call in the first place?? Many anti hunters don't have there facts straight. One of the best is. Why do you want to hunt elephants when they are almost extinct in Africa!!!!!! Mink and Wall Tents don't go together. Especially when you are sleeping in the Wall Tent. DRSS .470 & .500 | |||
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Good for you. I had a strange thing happen to me once. I will try to be short. When arriving in Alaska an 70-80 year old lady said " are you men hunters" knowing most people in Alaska I said "yes mam'n we are. She then started on a tirade on "why are you shooting those poor bears, they cannot hurt you, why do you want to hurt them" I knew where this was going and not wanting to punch a little old lady I tried to get in the hotel van ASAP. She kept just verbally abusing me at which point I wanted to tell her something bad but I refrained. As we drove away, she was "running" down the sidewalk shooting me the bird in an upward stroking manner. I could not help but fall over laughing. Not totally relevant but I thought you would enjoy. The world is full of strange ones. York, SC | |||
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I stole this line from somebody on AR, but when someone asks me why I kill animals? I say, "Because I consider it inhumane to eat them while they are alive." The other one I have heard on AR. Why do you kill elephants? I like the sound they make when they fall. Regards, Terry Msasi haogopi mwiba [A hunter is not afraid of thorns] | |||
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Rumor is that this is from Bert Kleinberger. A response to a lady's question, "Why would you shoot such an animal." | |||
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Wendell Good on you, sounds like you know how to be diplomatic and able to rse kick in a nice way. Hope you have a sense of HUMOUR .... are you not worried it might be a FISA agent sussing you out as there are some strange going ons it seems within USA with eavesdropping (-: Cheers, Peter | |||
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Wendell, way to go...I love when one beats up another with knowledge and not ignorance... Mike | |||
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At this point I would have given him Will's number. ______________________________ "Truth is the daughter of time." Francis Bacon | |||
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Good job Wendell! I've had MANY of those conversations and you handled it perfectly. I'll bet the guy may have accidently learned something and might even be hesitant to try it again. Kyler | |||
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I have had this conversation quite a few times as well. The most memorable of which, was with my daughter. She was raised, for the most part, by her mother, in other states. Her mom collects elephant memorabilia, and lives the bambi fantasy. My daughter told me she would never forgive me if I shot an elephant. I calmly explained the TRUTH of the situation, and she was astounded that the animal does not go to waste, contrary to what she had been told. That conversation actually took place at a gun show where there was booth for "Hunters For The Hungry", and she spent over an hour talking to, ( and learning from ) the guys there as well. We all need to educate when ever possible. Way to Go Wendel Let us speak courteously, deal fairly, and keep ourselves armed and ready Theodore Roosevelt | |||
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about time some people like that got their a$$ handed to them in a bag.way to go brian r simmons | |||
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A friend witnessed this and swears it is true. He was in New York City. A big, black limo pulls up and an attractive lady gets out. She is wearing expensive jewelry and a full length fur coat. A PETA type runs up to her and yells, "Do you know how many animals had to die so you could wear that fur coat?" She stopped, cocked her head torwards him, looked over the top of her glasses, and replied, "Do you know how many animals I had to f$&k to wear this fur coat?" The PETA-ite was stunned and speechless!!! When catapults are outlawed, only outlaws will have catapults! | |||
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Ok, that one is going in the archives. ___________________ Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well-preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting "...holy crap...what a ride!" | |||
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When I read the title to this thread, I just figured Wendell was getting his call back and the credit card was actually good. I got a call a couple of years ago from some goof trying to tell me in his best "tractor pull" voice that I had won $25,000, or a Yukon, or a Vegas vacation..... I stopped him dead in his tracks by saying in a low voice "So....what are you wearing?" He said "Excuse me???" I repeated in the same low voice "What do you have on?" He said "That question is totally inappropriate for this type of phone call!!!" I said "So....does that mean you are not going to tell me what you have on?" He then said "Sir! You are disqualified from this contest for being an asshole!!!" Then he hung up. I felt like I won. ___________________ Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well-preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting "...holy crap...what a ride!" | |||
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Dear Sir, Thank you very much for maintaining the high road. Member NRA, SCI- Life #358 28+ years now! DRSS, double owner-shooter since 1983, O/U .30-06 Browning Continental set. | |||
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That lets me out! | |||
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"I like the sound they make when they fall" is absolutely a Bert Klineburger line. I have that on first hand authority. And way to go Wendell. Like "Give 'em Hell" Harry Truman used to say, "I'm not givin' 'em Hell. I'm tellin' 'em the truth, and they only think it's Hell." Mike Wilderness is my cathedral, and hunting is my prayer. | |||
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Geeez Louise, I'm glad they don't disqualify me for life just for being an asshole. When Lois had her hemorrhoid surgery her doctor congratulaed her on her new, and perfect asshole. She said, "Great. Now I will always have something to remind me of John Charlie." LD | |||
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I don't know if this was his original line or not, but my father in law once told me that a politician is someone who can tell someone to go to hell in such a way that they can't wait to get there. Wendell, you've got a future in politics. | |||
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WTG Wendell! Funny stuff! | |||
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Had a couple of nice ladies with copies of the Watchtower come to my house one Saturday morning at 8:00 AM, after I’d closed up the restaurant I managed the night before at about 1:30. In those days, if you came to my door before noon you’d better have a search warrant or a cash prize. I woke up and came to the door, bleary eyed, hair sticking out in strange directions, wearing gym shorts with my hirsute 6’3†frame otherwise naked, and with a .45 in my hand. Slightly taken aback, the nice older lady said, “uh, young man, we’re here to talk to you about your relationship with God.†I replied, “Ma’am, I was just speaking to Him, and He didn’t mention you’d be coming by.†I closed the door on their stunned expressions, thinking to myself, “Oh, I am so going to hell for that one.†"If you can get closer, get closer. If you can get steadier, get steadier." | |||
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Thanksgiving 2004, was at my minister's home. At the dinner table, the church secretary who was there heard me mention that I'd had great success hunting. She started berating me about killing animals. I told her, if she only ate meat she bought from a grocery store, she was a scavenger, but I was a hunter. The minister's wife (also an ordained pastor) agreed with me on this comment. That shut up the secretary! .395 Family Member DRSS, po' boy member Political correctness is nothing but liberal enforced censorship | |||
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I stepped out on the porch with my double broken over one shoulder on my way to the skeet range and a case of shells in my left arm. Just then I noticed at the bottom of the porch steps coming up were 3 Jehovah's Whitnesses. They asked me if I had time to talk about god and showed me the cover of a watchtower with some asshole petting a tiger, and a sheep and a leopard giving eachother BJs or something similarly stupid. Anyway, they asked me if I would want to live in someplace like that after the Jesus returned to the Earth. I told them I didn't want live anyplace where animals were the equal of man. So years later, and I am living in Spain on the beach. It's 2 pm I am wearing my beach shorts and cooking on my balcony when someone buzzes the door. I look down to see a beautiful woman who want's to leave me some Watchtowers. So I give her my religious paraphanalyia and she goes on her way. From then on, she was at my house every Wedenesday for the next 2 years for dinner. How's this for backwards, she wanted me to leave my excellent paying job, as service in the military is wrong. And marry her and become a Jehova too. Needless to say she is still in Spain and I am in Italy alone with my job! | |||
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What sort of "religious paraphanalyia" did you give her to get her coming back every Wednesday? | |||
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Good job Wendell. Judging by his long periods of silence, you probably somewhat got through to him by being polite. I would have been tempted to call him a shitass and hung up. George "...Africa. I love it, and there is no reason for me to explore why. She affects some people that way, and those who feel as I do need no explanation." from The Last Safari | |||
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Nice job Wendell. As to the Bible and the idea of humans being meat eaters, that change occurs just after the "Flood Of Noah And His Arc" subsides and the land inhabitants of said arc had land again to walk on. Prior to that man had not been a carnivore. Also after land reappeared, animals were given the inclination to shy away from humans. I have known several, really strict, fundimentalist Christian, Born Again, church pastors and deacons that have been avid hunters! These guys do not drink a drop, do not go to the movies, do not dance with their wives - not even on their WEDDING DAYS, do not curse, etc. etc. Such good guys that you hope your sister marries some one just like them. I've asked other non-hunter clergy of the type described above and each one confirmed that fair chase sport hunting as we all know it IS AUTHORIZED BY THE ALMIGHTY IN SCRIPTURE. They went on to say, "Of course POACHING is a sin as is animal cruelty". This is because per scripture, we are supposed to obey the laws of our gov't. Jack OH GOD! {Seriously, we need the help.} | |||
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As to the beautiful women who shocked the PETA person with her "racey" retort, I'd bet it's true as true can be, knowing the 'Big Apple" as I do. Jack OH GOD! {Seriously, we need the help.} | |||
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Classic!!! Lance Lance Larson Studio lancelarsonstudio.com | |||
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Way to go, Wendell. Nice, polite and focused responses are the best chance to be persuasive. Plus that Texas drawl !! | |||
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They like to debate, I gave her a copy of the Herbert W. Armstrong book, and we had weekley debates over it. Jehovahs are really nice people, but they like to live right at the poverty line. The problem is they are ok with it. | |||
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