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7x64 for plains game
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Does anyone have experience of this calibre on medium sized plains game? I am reluctant to use .300WM again; last trip had Nosler 180gr going straight through impala and bushbuck, without obvious expansion. 7x64 in 164 gr Nosler is slower ans should allow for blow up. It's also a doddle to fire. I am not thinking of using this on larger than gemsbok, or possibly zebra, subject to PH's advice.
BTW, it's a Blaser R93. Took me time to get used to, but it works.
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Posts: 94 | Location: Hampshire, UK | Registered: 21 April 2002Reply With Quote
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I have used the 7 x 64 Brenneke on African game with 175 and 160 grs Noslers. It is a spendid game cartridge and with good shot placement I have killed everything up to Zebra with it. It is not ideal for Eland but will work. I know of several leopards shot with this round and giraffe. Like the 3006 it is timeless.
 
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rdash,

You have 2 good things in you hands for plains game hunting. One tha very good cartridge 7X64 and the second a Blaser R93. I'm jaleous. For sure you won't regret you choice.

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Posts: 831 | Location: BELGIUM | Registered: 23 May 2002Reply With Quote
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It's difficult to make a 9,3x64 from a 7x64?
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Posts: 3085 | Location: Uruguay - South America | Registered: 10 December 2001Reply With Quote
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I got gemsboks and kudus with the 270 shooting responsibly A frame bullets, without any problem.

The 7x64 shoot an heavier bullet, of slightly bigger diameter at the same velocity of the 270.

I hate to say it but it is a better and more versatile calibre, specially with the 175 grains bullets.

 
Posts: 178 | Location: Phalaborwa, Limpopo, South Africa | Registered: 26 April 2002Reply With Quote
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I have a 7X64 and up until I got my 375 I used it on everything up to eland. Great cartridge for the large stuff if you use 175gr bullets.

I only use it on springbok now, with 120gr bullets.

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Posts: 541 | Location: Mokopane, Limpopo Province, South Africa | Registered: 22 May 2002Reply With Quote
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RDash,
your problem is not in the caliber, but in your bullet choices in both the 300 and the 7x64, both excellent calibers...With your choice of bullet in the 7x64 you will experience the same "problem?" over again.

If you want more bullet expansion then use bullets of lighter construction..The 180 and 164 gr. bullets are tough bullets...Try the 150 or 165 in the 300 and the 130 to 140's in the 7x64. Light bullets for light game and heavy bullets for heavy game..

Then there is the compromise for plainsgame and it is probably your best bet...Try the 150 gr. for the 7x64 and the 165 for the 300.Use Sirocco, Hornady, Corelokt bullets as opposed to premiums.

I, on the other hand, have no problem with the 180 Noslers in a 300 or a 175 in a 7mm on anything as they don't tear up a lot of meat and the animals always run a good ways, I don't get the lightening type kills, but they do leave a decent blood trail and expire soon enough. The heavy bullets are both positive and time proven. My all time favorite load for everything is the 200 gr. Nosler in my 300 H&H and the 175 Nosler in my 7x57.

There are the two schools of thought, take your choice, both have trade offs.

I doubt that you lost an animal on your trip that was shot properly.

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Rdash, I'll second Ray's recomendations except on bullet weight for the 7x64. It is my experience that the fast 1-9 twist of the European 7x64 does not shoot well with bullets <150 gn. Being arguably considered as the "universal" caliber in Europe, the 175 gn. loading is probably the most popular, hence the fast twist. Considering your needs, I would advise either the Sierra GK 160 BTSP (light skinned game) or the GK 160 HPBT (heavier game). Both bullets shoot to the same POI when fueled with N160/56.0/CCI 250 (my pet load)and their killing power may surprise you.

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Posts: 2420 | Location: Belgium | Registered: 25 August 2001Reply With Quote
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Robert

I just checked the Nosler site to see if you were refering to the Ballistic Tip or the Partition but I could not see a 164 grain bullet at all.

If you were going to shoot Zebra and Oryx size plains game I would be inclined to use the 175 grain partition.

I know a chap who shoots a R93 in this calibre and swears by it.

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Posts: 1978 | Location: UK and UAE | Registered: 19 March 2001Reply With Quote
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Thanks to all for helpful advice and comments. I checked more carefully: the 7x64 are Federal Premium loaded with 160grain Nosler Partition. I do not reload my own (this may change!) so I have to rely on what I can get locally. I fly to S.Africa on Friday so I will see if I can find a bigger choice there.
The .300 bullets have killed each time, with no animals lost, but it seemed that the bullets were not working at their best. It doesn't really amount to a complaint; best performance so far was clean kill (dropped at once) on chamois at what (for me) is long range - 300m.
My thanks again.
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Robert
 
Posts: 94 | Location: Hampshire, UK | Registered: 21 April 2002Reply With Quote
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RDash,

I don't think you can go wrong with the 7 x 64 for what you want to hunt. But the best velocities for bushveld are 1900 fps to 2400 fps that with the heaviest bullet you can handle in your rifle should work fine.

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Posts: 2550 | Location: Pretoria, Gauteng, South Africa | Registered: 06 May 2002Reply With Quote
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Andre,
I agree with your sumation and that indeed can be a factor, but both my 7x57 and 8x57 (Brnos M-21 & 22) and even my 9.3 seem to handle a wide range of bullet weights very well...I shoot the 130 Speer and 175 Noslers in my 7x57 and both shoot an inch...

I can only add that one needs to try all bullet weights in his or her rifle and know what it will or will not do.

The 160 Nosler in the 7x64 is a real fine all around choice, but again Noslers do not always kill fast, they do however kill positively.

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