Well, I have managed to work myself into a rant! I posted a previous thread concerning scopes for Elephant hunting....etc. etc.

I got so many good replies, and I appreciate them. NOT THE LEAST OF WHICH WAS TO EQUIPT MY RIFLE WITH QD rings. SO.....here is my problem.

I Like Rugers. I own Rugers. I shoot Rugers.
Blah...blah...blah. SO, since Rugers have their own special ring set up for their rifles. I cannot understand WHY they do not make a QD ring set-up specifically for their Magnum and African rifles??? I just do not get it. I have spoken to the Ruger people at the regular shows...Dallas, Reno/Vegas. They just shrug their shoulders.
I do not care IF they charge an exhorbinate price. Guys who hunt in Africa would pay it.
JUST MAKE EM'.
Let er' Rip.

bcoyler,

Have you tried taking off the scope and then reattaching it to see if the POI changes a noteable amount? Might work just fime.

Mark

I had a 7x57 that I took the scope off and then reattached and the POI did not change. I could see having levers on the rings would be a very cool thing, especially for the big guys, but I think the rings are pretty good.

Warne makes QD rings that work fine on the Ruger Safari Magnum. I presume they would work on the African too.

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Originally posted by MARK H. YOUNG:
bcoyler,

Have you tried taking off the scope and then reattaching it to see if the POI changes a noteable amount? Might work just fime.

Mark

I found the Ruger rings worked better than Warne, just dont have the little arms

Check Brownells. Used to be a company that made levers to convert factory Rugers. If not, carry a quarter in your pocket.

I take mine off and on my No.1 (same Ruger ring system) in .450/.400 NE all the time and no problem returning to same POI. If you know you're going to be doing this alot and checking screw tension it can be done quickly with a quarter or even better with a Canadian loonie ($1 coin).

I have some on my Ruger .22 in 77/22. They are QR's made by Warne.

yeah, just use a quarter.

I have warnes on one of my alaskans but just use the factory rings on my african and other rugers. No problem with re-zero, just keep a quarter or a leatherman handy.

P.S. Wasn't the lever available from Brownells called a "Pilkington" lever?

Well guys.....I have spent all my $$$$, and most of my kids inheritance on this ele hunt. Do you think Mr. Obama would lend me a quarter?

Ooooooh....that is off the thread subject. Sorry.

The Warne's work perfectly on my .416 Ruger Alaskan always returning to zero.

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Originally posted by MJines:
Warne makes QD rings that work fine on the Ruger Safari Magnum. I presume they would work on the African too.

Looks like I will have to give the Warne's another try.

I have a really simple solution.
If Ruger doesn't offer what you want.
Don't buy a Ruger.

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Originally posted by bcolyer:
I do not care IF they charge an exhorbinate price. Guys who hunt in Africa would pay it.
JUST MAKE EM'.

Made.
Pay these guys
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Dear Bcolyer

1. Why do you need to take the scope of?

If i am not mistaken not removing the scope worked for the last 50 years.

Just another new gadget to cost you money.

Kind Regards Mark

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Posted 08 July 2011 00:51 Hide Post
Well guys.....I have spent all my $$$$, and most of my kids inheritance on this ele hunt. Do you think Mr. Obama would lend me a quarter?

not is he knows you have it

As others have said ther Ruger rings tend to work fine.

The problem I have with Ruger is ... where have all of the big MKII bolt guns gone??? Gone from their website!! for good????

The Boddington African series come with Warne QD rings.

Cabelas carry the Warne QR rings for the Ruger. Have to look a little for them--but they do carry them. Mid-Way USA does also! Good Luck w/hunt!!

There was a company in the US that used to sell the QD lever and screws to convert the standard Rugers mounts into QD's...

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Originally posted by JudgeG:
The Warne's work perfectly on my .416 Ruger Alaskan always returning to zero.

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Originally posted by MJines:
Warne makes QD rings that work fine on the Ruger Safari Magnum. I presume they would work on the African too.

I've had the same setup on my 416 for years with perfect return to zero. jorge

Speaking of Rugers, their use of T-10 Torx screws on Ruger rings is a much bigger issue than the slotted nuts at the point of contact to the receiver. T-10 Torx screw just don't allow you enough oomph to tighten things down on heavy recoiling rifles. T-10 screws are just cheap.

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Wasn't the lever available from Brownells called a "Pilkington" lever?

It was. I have a set and see them at gun shows from time to time.
I've never had trouble with Ruger rings not going back to zero.

Well, that is what I have on my Ruger...

Made from solid Titanium, black plasma coated, but NO QD levers as I prefer a allen wrench - so it could not get loose anyhow...

http://www.titanium-gunworks.c...um-scope-mounts.html

Warne, or try Alaska Arms, LLC. The latter makes QD lever type for CZs and might make them for Rugers. www.alaskaarmsllc.com

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Originally posted by bcolyer:
Well guys.....I have spent all my $$$$, and most of my kids inheritance on this ele hunt. Do you think Mr. Obama would lend me a quarter?

Ooooooh....that is off the thread subject. Sorry.

I doubt it. I think he's run out of CHANGE!
Rich Elliott

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Originally posted by LJS:
Check Brownells. Used to be a company that made levers to convert factory Rugers. If not, carry a quarter in your pocket.

they are called Pilkington levers and they work great. bought a pair from Brownell's 20 years ago to go on a Whitworth .375 and all these years later, they still work as advertised. scope removed in 10 seconds and absolute return to zero when reattached.

What I can't understand about Ruger is why they only offer the 416 Alaskan with a 20" barrel. Since they don't offer this caliber in the African model with the longer barrel, how much trouble would it be to offer the Alaskan with your choice of a 20 or 23" barrel. For me, it's not so much about the slight increase in velocity with the longer barrel but the increase in muzzle blast with the shorter barrel.