Have any of you gentlemen took a thermal scope to Africa? I just wondered if it was legal?

I have not taken a Thermal scope to Africa.

However one of my video camera had that ability and I needed a 4457 for the camera. I went to Customs and border control and they advised that I would need the 4457 for the camera.

I departed from Seattle and returned to Seattle. Customs was aware of me traveling to Tanzania and checked to make sure that I returned with my camera.

Maybe regulations have changes and I suggest that you check with Customs.

From reading you may need an import/export license.

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I have several. I also have thermal binos/monocular. I do not think they can be exported based upon what I read on the boxes. However, taking them for personal use may not be considered export. Emphasis on may.

It was requested that I bring mine to Pakistan earlier this year. When I started looking into it, there was enough of a question that I decided to leave mine at home.

Not worth the chance to me.

As far back as 15 years ago, most Sony handycams had a night mode similar to a starlight scope. I have several older ones that do a good job out to 75’ and even further set to IR mode with a small IR illuminator attached to the hot shoe.

Yes, many Sony video cameras have a night mode.

But, it is nothing compared to a proper thermal scope.

It is like night and day!

ITAR says no dice.

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Originally posted by Hasher:
ITAR says no dice.

+1, dont even think about it

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Lots of friends hunting in Africa with thermal scopes and night vision. Safari Outdoor selling them in RSA....

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Originally posted by Charlie64:
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Lots of friends hunting in Africa with thermal scopes and night vision. Safari Outdoor selling them in RSA....

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In some African countries where hunting is legally permitted after sunset, RSA possibly being the only one.

Issue is not if you can hunt there with one, it is you cant leave USA with one