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Normally I say each to their own but in this case you have to be nuts! If I am close enough to tell it is poisonous I am too damn close! Mom, be on the lookout for a 7 foot mamba, one is missing from the cage. | ||
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Everybody has there own hobby. Many people with venemous snakes do get bit and some people say they are crazy, but then again many would say we are crazy for shooting at a charging elephant instead of running. I hate spiders and wonder why the hell would you ever want one, but there are board members here with spiders. It's what ever blows your skirt up. Sevens | |||
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TJC, I think there is a huge market in Puff Adders from the Cleopatra cult members. Regards, Terry | |||
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Maybe. I forgot to mention that one can also buy mambas, both the green and black variety. Real smart!! Check these idiots out at www.venomousreptiles.org | |||
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Yes it is true. I saw a National Geographic special on snakebites and yes you too can buy a puff adder here in the US for $65.00-$90.00 all day on the internet. My question is "what kind of jackass would do this?" I thought I had seen some stupid people, but these Cretins take the cake. | |||
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Darwinism will take its course to relieve mankind of those unnecessary for its progress. | |||
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Russ, I could have said whatever rocks your boat. You must not be Scottish. Sevens | |||
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Mike that is an excellant point. If some moron wants to try to kill himself by buying a highly venomous snake that is simply thinning the herd of morons. On the NG special, they showed some snake handler in Florida who was called to a house because the owner had found a "strange looking" snake in his garage. The snake was behind some trash cans and his young son-8 or 9 was busy poking the things tail with his fingers when the guy arrives. he proceeds to move the can and to his surprise there was a 4 or 5 foot Gaboon Viper. Luckily the kid didn't get bit, or anyone else for that matter. There was apparently an auction in the area where 40 Gaboon Vipers were sold. WOW | |||
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$300 for a Black Mamba...what a great way to finish off that trophy room LOTS OF REALLY NICE QUALITY HOTS AVAILABLE! MALAYSIAN GOLD KING COBRAS @ $950.00 AND UP, JAMESONS, EAST, & WEST AFRICAN MAMBAS @ $125.00 - $135.00, MONOCLED COBRAS @ $110.00, 2 RARE GOLD'S TREE COBRAS FOR SALE @ $1150.00 EACH, EGYPTIAN COBRAS @ $125.00, UGANDA RHINO VIPERS @ $75.00 - $125.00, WEST AFRICAN BUSH VIPERS @ $85.00, EAST AFRICAN GABOONS @ $65.00 - $110.00, WEST AFRICAN RHINO VIPER BABY @ $60.00, VARIABLE BUSH VIPERS @ $45.00 - $65.00, POPES VIPERS @ $65.00, NUBIAN SPITTING COBRA @ $150.00, CERASTES VIPERA @ $45.00, EGYPTIAN SAWSCALE VIPERS @ $65.00, BLACK MAMBAS @ $300.00, AND LOTS OF OTHER VENOMOUS AVAILABLE! CALL OR INQUIRE FOR COMPLETE LIST!!!! | |||
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Normally I say each to their own but in this case you have to be nuts! If I am close enough to tell it is poisonous I am too damn close! Mom, be on the lookout for a 7 foot mamba, one is missing from the cage. Somehow the above all sounds familiar!!!!!! Just as a by the way, reptile ownership (any reptile) has been very resticted in Australia for several years. Gun ownership has also been very restricted in Australia for several years. Mike | |||
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I've never understood why the U.S. would allow importation of non indiginous animals into the U.S. that can survive in our climate. Have you ever seen any of the shows on the Discovery channel where they talk about all the monkeys and reptiles that are loose in Florida? In one show they interviewed an old couple in Florida that feed racoons. One night they heard a squeel and looked outside to see a huge python slithering it's way back under their house. It had been living under their house and snacking on the racoons! Ferral animals have the potential to cause all sorts of problems. Look at the Guam Brown Tree Snake and how serious Hawaii takes the threat. | |||
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LV Eric Gaboon puff adder is amazing. 2 inches of thangs They are nice to look at in a terrarium, but that's it. It's not a pet animal. I really hate spiders Cheers / JOHAN | ||
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Sevens, True, people think we are crazy for hunting DG, or any game for that matter, but we don't bring them home alive with the possibility of escape and harm or death to our neighbors! I had such a neighbor in Ohio, and some did escape due to conditions beyond anyone's control: a flood. The authorities shut him down real quick and he had his 15 mins. of fame in a newspaper article and a human interest interview with a local news channel. The he move to a more rural area and started his collection all over again. Nice guy and a decent neighbor. He told me he just had a strong passion for snakes, especially large consrictors and King Snakes, which he claimed were gentle, made good pets and ate other snakes (they are immune to most venom). I was a falconer for quite awhile before getting married and had several large raptors that the neighbors didn't exactly care for, but I always kept them safe and would take them to an isolated area to fly free and hunt over my dogs. Venomous snakes and very large constictors that can do damge or kill other folks are a real threat and should be treated accordingly. Some of those snakes will actually have a territory and hunt ANYTHING that stumbles through it...Mamba's and Bushmasters are a few... | |||
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The most popular veniumous snake when I was in the bis is the Gaboon Viper, they are great looking and big. | |||
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Quote: A lifestyle of which I have no intention of partaking. Call me old-fashioned, but I'm a "pants" kind of guy. Russ | |||
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You can find a variety of offerings at the Kingsnake Classifieds. While I don't own anything venomous they are readily available for collectors who generally have special permits. | |||
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Ladies and Gentlemen, I don't know why all this fuss about snakes. They can be just as peaceful as any pets. We've had snakes for a number of years, and right now we have two Egyptian Cobras. We don't have as much fun with them as we used to with an indigo snake we had, as they are quite big. The indigo snake was black, and people used to mistake it for a black mamba. Walter used to take it down into our shooting room, and let it curl behind the rifles on the rack, and wait for some unsuspecting character to arrive. He would then ask him to get one of the rifles - the one closest to the snake. One time we had a visitor who was absolutely petrified of snakes. We have an L shaped table in the middle of the room. As soon as he saw the snake, he turned around, found the table blocking his way, he climbed the table, wacked his his in the ceiling, fell down on the other side, and ran off. We have the glass case where the two cobras live in cleaned every couple of weeks or so. No one will touch them except me. So I have to take them out, put them in a plastic box, and return them after their case has been cleaned. I found the best way is to take the top of the cage off, talk to them, and slowly stroke their backs. Gradually getting closer to their heads. I then put my hand in front of them, and they just slither onto my arm. | |||
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Saeed - Do you know what variety of cobra you have? When you go to remove them do they not display their hoods at all? Or must you first wait for them to settle down? | |||
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These two are very peaceful snakes. In fact, I have never seen them angry at all. Last week I got a number of old copies of the African Sporting Gazzete, and while the boys are cleaning the snake cage, I had both snakes lying right next to me while I was looking through the magazines. I have an Egyptian friend whom I have known for about 30 years. He has a wife called Mona, and a daughter called Sherry. You might have seen them in our South Africa 2002 video. We named our two Egyptian snakes in their honor. Mone was not too impressed at first, then she realized how much I liked the snakes to name them after her and her daughter | |||
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Quote: I'll remember this! Thanks! I like learning things like this. Russ | |||
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Russell: Glad to see in your reply to "Sevens" that you referred to yourself as not being " Scottish" - rather than saying like a lot of us Americans that you weren't a "Scotchman" - which makes a Scot wince. I grew up in a peculiar family of Irish - We had a large number of friends who were Scots. I learned at a very early age that there were only three things that were "Scotch" - the whiskey, the plaid and the dog (Scotch terrier) | |||
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I have kept and bredd them all, African cobras, vipers, Aisian aborial vipers, and Australian elapids. I got out of it afew years ago and I'm kinda sad, but glad too. I never took a bite. They're not "pets", they're animals you tend to "collect" and keep, for the sake of learning the habbits and idosncracies of each species. Interesting from a zoological point of view and much more fascinating than little colubrdids and pythons, for me, anyways. | |||
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I was in the reptile business in California in the late 80's and most venimous(Hot)animals were illegal. There was a black market for such stuff mostly comming from Flordia. You would be suprised at the demand for such stuff. Hot snakes are the gauntlet for most reptile enthusists. As a side note most are druggies or drinkers etc. BTW: I never sold such stuff I had retail stores and was visited by Fish & Game often for that reason. I did get busted for an alagator that was 16" long and was almost endidted for it. Thats serious stuff to play with both physically and legally in Ca. | |||
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I wouldn't buy a Puff Adder, they are fat and lazy and can't keep up with me, so I bought a catahoula cow dog instead! | |||
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Quote: Just ribbing you. Nope, not Scottish. Always wanted to ride a motorcycle through Scotland, though. Got horridly drunk on Scotch my first time "seriously" drinking, eons ago. That's when I learned that it's "bad" to have a Scotch, Scotch double, glass of Blue Ribbon, then a pitcher of Blue Ribbon, then a whiskey sour, then four screwdrivers, then a bloody Mary, then to fill your bloody Mary glass with Blue Ribbon... yup, at 19 years old and with no formal education in the fine art of "imbibing"... boy, the rest of the night took a major turn for the worse. Ah, but I digress. Think nothing of the skirt comment. Just ribbing you. Russ | |||
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Saeed, You are a braver man than I am. Not a chance in Hell would I fart around with ANY type of venomous snake. Ann- In many states, there is NO special permit required. That is scary. | |||
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about the time they slithered up my arm I would have pissed down my leg, I'll have to pass on the cobra cage cleaning | |||
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Quote: There are many US citizens who feel exactly the same regarding your firearms as numerous states require no permits for those potentially deadly tools. Venomous reptiles have been kept and maintained by the private sector for many, many years in this country and there has never been an accidental envenomation recorded from an escaped specimen. Moreover, most of the advances in serpent reproductive biology have been discovered by those herpetoculturists in the private sector. Just as it is with firearm owners, most keepers of venomous reptiles are very responsible individuals and take their discipline seriously. They understand the potential hazard and take steps to develop the skills necessary to protect themselves and those around them. The comment by LV Eric that most are druggies or drinkers is a generalisation of asinine proportion. Of course, I cannot personally comment on the integrity, or lack thereof, of his clientele when he was in the business. Maintaining venomous reptiles is no different from owning firearms or driving a vehicle on public thoroughfares; personal responsibility is the order of the day. And, if one operates irresponsibly in any of these activities, there are already laws on the books to deal with such offenders. Of course, it's always easier to prohibit that which offends or frightens you. Burn 'em at the stake, eh? ~Holmes | |||
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A few years a long thread ran on HuntAmerica about keeping venomous snakes. The thread was triggered by a news item about someone's snake escaping and biting the neighbour's dog If you changed a few words in the thread then it would have looked exactly like a thread running about "those big powerful guns" It seems that about 95% of the people for about 95% of the time are in favour of some form of control or gov't intervention, except when it is in their area of interest. Mike | |||
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Holmes I agree to a point even though I hate poisonous snakes. I will only say that my firearm cant get out of its cage and slither on over to "visit" the neighbours on its own. | |||
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Quote: Saeed, I react pretty much to snakes like you do when Walter tells you he has made some "new improvements" to your guns! That put it in perspective? | |||
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Bravo Holmes. | |||
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