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Well I was watching a cable show the other week, where a rich Arab was displaying and describing
his expensive bird for the activity of Falconry.
He explained that the natural area he was in was sadly, now totally devoid of any live natural game for the bird,
because the Arab people had utterly f*cked up their own natural environment/habitat.
He had to tow a dead bait via remote controlled airplane, so as to give the bird something to pursue.


What the fuck has this to do with Arabs? The natural world is a catalogue of fuck ups and it is only when things are at critical level then we mortals tend to address the situation.

I am sure that (and considering the wealth and influence) the conservation for indigenous birds for Falconry can easily be addressed if it is a problem at all?

Dunno as I don't own a Falcon in Dubai.


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As the old saying goes: "a picture is worth a 1000 words!"


Agreed the colour white tends to disadvantage the hunter.


Andrew,

Perhaps you could indentify the avian species those hunters are holding???


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As the old saying goes: "a picture is worth a 1000 words!"


Agreed the colour white tends to disadvantage the hunter.


Big Grin tu2


Or maybe you Blair? What kind of bird is that???


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Its a Kori Bustard (some people call it a Greater Bustard) and a protected species as far as I know but maybe a Presidential permit might get you one. Wink
 
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Tanzania denies plans to evict 40,000 Maasai for hunting park

Tanzania on Thursday (November 20th) denied claims it is planning to evict around 40,000 members of the Maasai community from their traditional lands to create a hunting park, AFP reported.

Earlier this week, global activist group Avaaz alleged that Tanzania had ambitions to turn 1,500 square kilometres in the Loliondo district into a hunting reserve for a company catering to the royal family of the United Arab Emirates.

Avaaz said Maasai community leaders had been told they would be offered a billion shillings ($578,000) for their lands, less than $15 each for all of them to leave.

But Minister of Natural Resources and Tourism Lazaro Nyalandu said the report was false, adding that he will travel to the region next month to meet with Maasai leaders and reassure them.

"The government has no such plans and never entertained the idea of evicting the Maasai," Nyalandu told reporters in Dodoma.

The government scrapped similar plans for a hunting park in Loliondo in September 2013.

The land borders the Serengeti National Park, a UNESCO World Heritage Site, where animals cross into Kenya's Maasai Mara National Reserve following seasonal grazing.


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Its a Kori Bustard (some people call it a Greater Bustard) and a protected species as far as I know but maybe
a Presidential permit might get you one. Wink


So the act of killing protect species like that, is what contributes to the UAE Ortello Business Company
established poor track record in wildlife abuse?

People need to remember that the environmental groups working to get the Maasai out, are also working to get
the hunters and pastoralists out.
So any hunters cheering for the removal of the Maasai, are also supporting the actions of those working to stop hunting.
 
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Maasai and pastoralists are basically one and the same and it is they who have total disregard for wildlife, Lions being top of the list.

It has also been mentioned before but some may regard it as trivia: domestic animals carry diseases which are alien to wildlife and any contamination will have drastic repercussions; refer to the number of Lions that died randomly in the same area not so long ago, what was it - canine distemper?

Years before that we had an outbreak of foot and mouth and wildlife that shared habitat with domestic animals bore the brunt. It would make sense therefore to keep domestic animals out of areas which have been identified as wildlife havens.

As for the Kori Bustard, yes, a Presidential Permit will secure you one much in the same manner that it would secure you hunting rights in a National Park. So for all we know, this band of merry men, might just have had one, who's to say otherwise?

And while the Kori being a protected species in TZ as is the Secretary Bird, Vulture, Giraffe, Cheetah and Wild Dog among others, does not necessarily mean they are endangered; just protected as in "not on license".

Before the rant on Wild Dogs takes off, while they may be endangered in other parts of Africa, they are most definitely not endangered in TZ, in fact we'd be done a great favour if the "collar people" were to cart them out of here and relocate them in those depleted areas.
 
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Maasai and pastoralists are basically one and the same and it is they who have total disregard for wildlife, Lions being top of the list.

It has also been mentioned before but some may regard it as trivia: domestic animals carry diseases which are alien to wildlife and any contamination will have drastic repercussions; refer to the number of Lions that died randomly in the same area not so long ago, what was it - canine distemper?

Years before that we had an outbreak of foot and mouth and wildlife that shared habitat with domestic animals bore the brunt. It would make sense therefore to keep domestic animals out of areas which have been identified as wildlife havens.

As for the Kori Bustard, yes, a Presidential Permit will secure you one much in the same manner that it would secure you hunting rights in a National Park. So for all we know, this band of merry men, might just have had one, who's to say otherwise?

And while the Kori being a protected species in TZ as is the Secretary Bird, Vulture, Giraffe, Cheetah and Wild Dog among others, does not necessarily mean they are endangered; just protected as in "not on license".

Before the rant on Wild Dogs takes off, while they may be endangered in other parts of Africa, they are most definitely not endangered in TZ, in fact we'd be done a great favour if the "collar people" were to cart them out of here and relocate them in those depleted areas.


I have heard that due to the increase of the African wild dogs in many areas, some species have taken a real hit.

Of course, no one bothers to check the effect of protection sometimes.


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I have heard that due to the increase of the African wild dogs in many areas, some species have taken a real hit.

Of course, no one bothers to check the effect of protection sometimes.


Absolutely correct - there are areas in Masailand that are now totally void of Bushbuck (they were few in numbers to start with) and almost depleted of Impala.

In the Selous they are a scourge, areas known for Reedbuck (territorial) have been wiped out and Impala herds are being drastically thinned out; admittedly there are far too many does anyway but a dog doesn't hunt its lunch according to gender.

Packs are seldom less than 20 and more often than not exceed that figure (pups not considered) - One Impala isn't going far unless we call in Dynamo and do a multiplication trick. Big Grin

When its foaling time its Thanksgiving - Zebra, Hartebeeste and Wildebeest being among the hardest hit.
 
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A Sample of what the "local cattlemen" are capable of.


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