Has anyone ever used them if so feedback good and bad ia appreciated

I have never used any booking agent, but I do know Bob Kern and his company, The Hunting Consortium. It has been in business for at least four decades and offers hunts on six continents, with special emphasis on Asia and Africa.

Bill Quimby

Booked for Richard Bell Cross in Zambia.

By all accounts a good set up and comes with fine references.

Thanks for replies

Hunt Con has booked hunts for us for over 20 years. They are very particular with their paperwork and details.

What are you looking at Johnny?

Looking at a Cape buffalo hunt

With Jan Dumon? ... or elsewhere?

Going too contact a few different outfits in Mozambique and Zimbabwe I'm leaning towards Mozambique.

Johnny,
Bob Kern / HC caters very much toward the elite Safari Club crowd. So, if shooting lots of monstrous trophies and writing self aggrandizing articles about your prowess and hunting skills for SCI publications is your thing, by all means, Bob is your man. Now, if later everyone finding out that you actually shot all those animals out of a helicopter, lied your ass off about everything that happened in the article you wrote, have to spend hundreds of thousands of dollars on attorneys to fight federal Lacey act violations and make a camp full of foreign witnesses disappear, isn't your thing. Then perhaps look at some of the dozens of reputable outfitters, or even (if you must), booking agents that post on this site weekly. But don't expect any of the weak kneed safari club jerk offs on this post to tell you that.

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Johnny,
Bob Kern / HC caters very much toward the elite Safari Club crowd. So, if shooting lots of monstrous trophies and writing self aggrandizing articles about your prowess and hunting skills for SCI publications is your thing, by all means, Bob is your man. Now, if later everyone finding out that you actually shot all those animals out of a helicopter, lied your ass off about everything that happened in the article you wrote, have to spend hundreds of thousands of dollars on attorneys to fight federal Lacey act violations and make a camp full of foreign witnesses disappear, isn't your thing. Then perhaps look at some of the dozens of reputable outfitters, or even (if you must), booking agents that post on this site weekly. But don't expect any of the weak kneed safari club jerk offs on this post to tell you that.

Are you implying that the outfitters that The hunting consortium represents are unethical operations ?

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Originally posted by 505 gibbs:
Johnny,
Bob Kern / HC caters very much toward the elite Safari Club crowd. So, if shooting lots of monstrous trophies and writing self aggrandizing articles about your prowess and hunting skills for SCI publications is your thing, by all means, Bob is your man. Now, if later everyone finding out that you actually shot all those animals out of a helicopter, lied your ass off about everything that happened in the article you wrote, have to spend hundreds of thousands of dollars on attorneys to fight federal Lacey act violations and make a camp full of foreign witnesses disappear, isn't your thing. Then perhaps look at some of the dozens of reputable outfitters, or even (if you must), booking agents that post on this site weekly. But don't expect any of the weak kneed safari club jerk offs on this post to tell you that.

While Bob has built a successful business working with some of the SCI big dogs, the event you speak of in Russia with the lacy act violations, was a sham. Bob was not on that hunt, yes he arranged the hunt, but did not tell those guys to shoot out of the helicopter. There were some very rich folks who are collectors on that hunt as well as an ex employee of USFW in the helicopter. Rich guys bought there way out and the uSWF went after bib, the weak link. I believe he also was cleared of charges. Now i am of a bob fan, nor a nonfan, he has great hunts and some nit great hunts. Just dont think it is correct to categorize him as a lacey act violater.

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Originally posted by 505 gibbs:
Johnny,
Bob Kern / HC caters very much toward the elite Safari Club crowd. So, if shooting lots of monstrous trophies and writing self aggrandizing articles about your prowess and hunting skills for SCI publications is your thing, by all means, Bob is your man. Now, if later everyone finding out that you actually shot all those animals out of a helicopter, lied your ass off about everything that happened in the article you wrote, have to spend hundreds of thousands of dollars on attorneys to fight federal Lacey act violations and make a camp full of foreign witnesses disappear, isn't your thing. Then perhaps look at some of the dozens of reputable outfitters, or even (if you must), booking agents that post on this site weekly. But don't expect any of the weak kneed safari club jerk offs on this post to tell you that.

You should be careful who you slander!!!

If you are interested, do some basic research using some key words/names you see in this article, if not, then what are we talking about?

Most people here already know the story. USFWS went after Kern and fellow hunters helped him raise funds for his defence. He was acquitted. End of story. Booking agent not to be held accountable for the actions of the clients on tour.

Thanks for all the information

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Originally posted by 505 gibbs:
Johnny,
Bob Kern / HC caters very much toward the elite Safari Club crowd. So, if shooting lots of monstrous trophies and writing self aggrandizing articles about your prowess and hunting skills for SCI publications is your thing, by all means, Bob is your man. Now, if later everyone finding out that you actually shot all those animals out of a helicopter, lied your ass off about everything that happened in the article you wrote, have to spend hundreds of thousands of dollars on attorneys to fight federal Lacey act violations and make a camp full of foreign witnesses disappear, isn't your thing. Then perhaps look at some of the dozens of reputable outfitters, or even (if you must), booking agents that post on this site weekly. But don't expect any of the weak kneed safari club jerk offs on this post to tell you that.

Brad - Come on bro you know the facts here, and you know that's a bit unfair. Your personal opinion of Bob is one thing, and you're certainly entitled to it. But we all know that Bob was neither on the hunt in question, or was initially aware of the circumstances that led to his eventual charge. His clients took it upon themselves to violate game laws/ethics, in a foreign country, and Bob was then left holding the bag - for some completely unjust reason?? He was acquitted in Federal Court, as he should have been!

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Brad - Come on bro you know the facts here, and you know that's a bit unfair.
Actually, I don't, and neither do you. I only know what was published or gossiped about. And what was published is more than enough for me to know I want nothing to do with this operation. Too many good outfits out there. But, keep toeing the SCI line.
Your personal opinion of Bob is one thing, and you're certainly entitled to it.
I wouldn't know Bob Kern from a can of paint, my take is based solely on this event. It is biased by this fitting my pre-concieved notion of the caliber of individuals in SCI.
But we all know that Bob was neither on the hunt in question, or was initially aware of the circumstances that led to his eventual charge.
You "know" no such thing, you have been fed by multiple sources on this topic, same as everyone else.
His clients took it upon themselves to violate game laws/ethics, in a foreign country, and Bob was then left holding the bag - for some completely unjust reason??
Once again, you don't "know" any of that.
He was acquitted in Federal Court, as he should have been!Aaron Neilson
That is a fact. Perhaps it's good enough for some.

Bob Kern

ps. Anyone have a copy of Travis Simpsons article from SCI on this hunt?

Oh look - another SCI conspiracy theorist.

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Brad - Come on bro you know the facts here, and you know that's a bit unfair.
Actually, I don't, and neither do you. I only know what was published or gossiped about. And what was published is more than enough for me to know I want nothing to do with this operation. Too many good outfits out there. But, keep toeing the SCI line.
Your personal opinion of Bob is one thing, and you're certainly entitled to it.
I wouldn't know Bob Kern from a can of paint, my take is based solely on this event. It is biased by this fitting my pre-concieved notion of the caliber of individuals in SCI.
But we all know that Bob was neither on the hunt in question, or was initially aware of the circumstances that led to his eventual charge.
You "know" no such thing, you have been fed by multiple sources on this topic, same as everyone else.
His clients took it upon themselves to violate game laws/ethics, in a foreign country, and Bob was then left holding the bag - for some completely unjust reason??
Once again, you don't "know" any of that.
He was acquitted in Federal Court, as he should have been!Aaron Neilson
That is a fact. Perhaps it's good enough for some.

Bob Kern

ps. Anyone have a copy of Travis Simpsons article from SCI on this hunt?

Brad - Unlike you I don't speculate here on AR all the time. I most certainly know the facts, my biz partner sat through every single day of the trial my friend. Anyone who paid attention for more than 5 minutes knows the facts, they were never in dispute. The only thing in dispute was why the USFWS was trying to charge Bob, for the crime, and was he guilty of said charge. He was acquitted, so apparently not - that too is a fact!!!

Regardless, come on Brad. Why in the world are you always slinging mud at everyone? Bob does things differently than I, and a lot of others. But that's no reason to bad-mouth the guy without merit/knowledge, that amounts to nothing more than speculation.

I have ZERO interest in toting the SCI line, apparently you have not read all of the issues I've had with SCI over the past 2 weeks - as it pertains to the lion issue. But I simply don't see the need to bad mouth the guy's livelihood - when you admit to not knowing him or any of the facts of the case, at all? Just seems beneath you, IMO.

Bottom line, Bob was acquitted in a court of law. Perhaps then, the charges against him were not legit???

please quote the part of my post that is untrue with countering evidence.

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please quote the part of my post that is untrue with countering evidence.

AR, use to be a place where a guy like Johnny reb could come for some simple information and now when one does that it usually ends up in a pissing contest and many times the crap is piled on SCI one way or another.

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AR, use to be a place where a guy like Johnny reb could come for some simple information and now when one does that it usually ends up in a pissing contest and many times the crap is piled on SCI one way or another.

And, Brad is one of the quickest to start slinging crap!

The IGNORE function is awesome, try it, you'll like it.

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And, Brad is one of the quickest to start slinging crap!

Like a monkey.

bwana, I do have a few on the ignore list but the list is getting bigger and bigger. I would guess I am on some of their list also. It is a shame but after so many years it appears too many of us have to used that function.