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02 March 2015, 05:24
larryshores
New style shooting sticks
We bought some shooting sticks from Rudolph Optics while at SCI. I do not have a pic at the moment but will endeavor to get one.

The best way I could describe these sticks is that they are like 2 pairs of 2 legged sticks. One pair for the front and one for the back of the gun. All 4 legs come together on the ground.

The sticks are cumbersome at best to get set up. However, once they are set up, they are amazingly steady. Honestly. I think I could zero a rifle off of them. To give you a real world experience, I whacked a paper plate 20 out of 20 times at 300 meters with a 22-250.

In some circumstances, these are the ticket.
02 March 2015, 05:28
pagosawingnut
Sounds interesting. Waiting to see pictures.
02 March 2015, 06:06
Von Gruff
Do you mean something like the English style double bipod like this. I have seen them much neater but this gives the general idea.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cobad2VfWJs

A home made cheap set

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02 March 2015, 06:08
Marty
Here's a product link.
http://www.rudolphoptics.com/p...cts/accessories.html
02 March 2015, 06:44
Bob Keeler
When I hunted with Alan Shearing he had a set up such as this and I believe he called them Irish Shooting sticks. They worked slick when I checked my shooting of my 500 A-Square and 375 H&H as it was incredibly stable.
02 March 2015, 07:07
JGRaider
People are actually planning to lug those things around in the field, hunting?
02 March 2015, 10:11
Ackley Improved User
This is easier, cheaper, and steadier. Stable enough - actually bench rest steady with one MOA groups possible - to support the gun without holding. The front tri-stick belongs to the PH and back bipod (very inexpensive and light Primos Polecat) provided by hunter. The bipod length can be adjusted before the hunt, but on site adjustment is easy by spreading or closing the bipod.

This set-up was proven practical and very useful on most recent trip to Africa. Actually, it was only needed for longer-range shots. On the longer-range shots there is usually plenty of time to set it up, but set up is very quick. Final microadjustments are also very quick with a little practice.


02 March 2015, 14:10
larryshores
quote:
Originally posted by JGRaider:
People are actually planning to lug those things around in the field, hunting?


They are too big to fit in my gun case or a bag. I supposed they could be checked separately.

They are very light yet cumbersome to set up. If one had a long shot and/or a few seconds to set up, they are amazingly stable.

I also have a shorter set that I intend to use from ground blinds.
02 March 2015, 14:44
Saeed
I like to see someone trying to put these up while hunting buffalo in the bush rotflmo


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02 March 2015, 17:12
Opus1
quote:
Originally posted by Saeed:

I like to see someone trying to put these up while hunting buffalo in the bush rotflmo


My thoughts exactly.

Might be nice at the range for the big bores however.


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02 March 2015, 17:24
Bob Keeler
I know you are having fun mocking this type of shooting sticks but when I was around what Alan Shearing had he and his crew were pretty darn quick on the set up. I came away from the experience for what he showed me as they are a pretty neat gadget. They create an incredibly stable shooting rest.
02 March 2015, 17:54
Saeed
We find 3 legged stick very awkward to use in the bush, although they are more stable.

Hence my preference for two legged sticks.


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02 March 2015, 22:51
Wendell Reich
Probably not the end all be all of sticks, but I bet they are darn useful.

I bet they would be hell on P-dawgs! Easy to carry to remote areas. Perfect for sit and wait hunts for Deer, maybe Pronghorn in the right circumstances. Good for rifle hunts out of pop-up blinds where you can adjust without being seen. Grassy flat Areas where prone isn't an option.

Like most outdoor products, not perfect for everything, but excellent for certain things.

Would like to see a pic.
03 March 2015, 00:30
Strelyets
My PH in Moz in 2013 had a home-made set that worked quite well and were as easy to set up as traditional 3-legged shooting sticks. They were essentially two bi-pods tethered at the top by a short 6-8inch cord and the legs of the front and rear bipods joined at the ends. Elevation was adjusted as with ordinary sticks. The sticks were light weight and they were rock-steady.
03 March 2015, 00:46
Duckear
quote:
Originally posted by Wendell Reich:
Probably not the end all be all of sticks, but I bet they are darn useful.

I bet they would be hell on P-dawgs! Easy to carry to remote areas. Perfect for sit and wait hunts for Deer, maybe Pronghorn in the right circumstances. Good for rifle hunts out of pop-up blinds where you can adjust without being seen. Grassy flat Areas where prone isn't an option.

Like most outdoor products, not perfect for everything, but excellent for certain things.

Would like to see a pic.


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03 March 2015, 00:49
Fallow Buck
I struggled with the quad stick, but to date I have not found a better option than the tri bog pod.

I think the minute you have independent hinges on the tripod stick the deployment issues disappear.

Like everything they get faster to use after some practice.

The quads are extremely stable once deployed.

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03 March 2015, 01:23
L. David Keith
I've used bi, tri and quad pods in Africa and at home and true, the quad is perfect in some long range shots but not practical in many situations. My personal favorite is the Primos Trigger Stick (tripod). 2nd generation is much lighter than their first model. It allows you to shoulder the rifle even for extended periods (strapped into the yoke)and medium to longer shots. LDK


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03 March 2015, 01:53
JTEX
quote:
Like most outdoor products, not perfect for everything, but excellent for certain things.


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03 March 2015, 04:50
Adamsdjr
Last year my son and I also hunted with Alan Shearing. The version of the sticks he used were great. They functioned as typical bipod shooting sticks when carried and could be used just as quickly in the bipod mode. If you had an extra second or two for a longer shot they were very stable when used in the quad mode. Alan's were wooden, very light and superior to any other I have used on several trips.
03 March 2015, 05:24
buckeyeshooter
those are not shooting sticks, they are a benchrest. I'm positive they would help, but I wonder about the set up time?
03 March 2015, 07:55
Use Enough Gun
My current preference is the Primos bi-pod Trigger Stick, Gen 2. tu2
03 March 2015, 09:32
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03 March 2015, 10:39
Bill Brady
Hi guys as Use Enough Gun says the Primos bipod is by far the best I have ever used by far.Bill


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03 March 2015, 13:12
Bwanamich
We should donate some to MS so he can't gut wound a buffalo and then let him decide how he wants to die.... sofa

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03 March 2015, 13:33
John Chalmers
quote:
Originally posted by larryshores:
We bought some shooting sticks from Rudolph Optics while at SCI. I do not have a pic at the moment but will endeavor to get one.

The best way I could describe these sticks is that they are like 2 pairs of 2 legged sticks. One pair for the front and one for the back of the gun. All 4 legs come together on the ground.

The sticks are cumbersome at best to get set up. However, once they are set up, they are amazingly steady. Honestly. I think I could zero a rifle off of them. To give you a real world experience, I whacked a paper plate 20 out of 20 times at 300 meters with a 22-250.

In some circumstances, these are the ticket.


Hi Larry, I think i posted this pic before.
The great thing about this set, they can be used as single sticks or quads,if time allows for longer shots.

IMO all sticks take as much time to put up,as the time you put into practice with them.
That is unless you have the PH to put them up like Saeed. Wink

This set was made from fiberglass (reject) golf flagpoles by a pal 10 years ago..Very light but strong enough to haul you out of a peat bog. Big Grin jc

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03 March 2015, 13:57
HendrikNZ
Al Shearing (CMS) has a pair and we used them for some of the longer shots where there was time for "setup". Bench rest steady!
03 March 2015, 15:23
R.Jolly
The sticks in the picture that John Chalmers shows are the same design that people have mentioned that Alan Shearing uses.
I know this as a fact as my friend Des had the trackers make a set when we hunted with Alan and Buzz Charlton in 2013. As expected both Alan and Buzz gave a sceptical tolerance to the design when first explained to them.
After both Des and I used them on our hunt to good effect both PHs were converts.
Contrary to an initial uneducated view and what has been said on here they are very easy to use in the bush and extremely stable and accurate.
In use the PH just opens them out as a simple bipod and let's the front section drop forward to the extent of the restraining cord.
They are as quick as a bipod, but far more stable.
I would recommend anyone to try them.
If any endorsement is wanted just ask Alan Shearing or Buzz Charlton.
03 March 2015, 16:40
Buzz Charlton
FULLY ENDORSED! The are ROCK steady and easy to use!
03 March 2015, 17:22
Cumbrian
Quad sticks are very common in the UK especially when a long shot has to be taken and the vegetation on the ground is too tall for the bipod or off the knees, they are incredibly solid when deployed and can still be used as a traditional two stick set.

With a bit of practice they can be deployed almost instantly and silently.

I use the following sticks as they retract to a compact size so that they can go in my gun case:
Hammond quad sticks

I agree they have no place in DG hunting and I'm always amazed how reliant people become on these sticks and try to use them for every shot even a roe buck stood 25yds away! Quad sticks are good but no substitute for practicing other field positions and offhand shooting.
03 March 2015, 17:52
Beretta682E
quote:
Originally posted by Buzz Charlton:
FULLY ENDORSED! The are ROCK steady and easy to use!


Even with these I doubt Biebs could hit the side of a barn at 50 yards with his Blaser !!!!

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04 March 2015, 01:32
Milo Shanghai
I use these for deer stalking and fox shooting. Absolutely solid and easy to set up quickly with a small amount of practice.

http://www.southwickshootingsupplies.com/page2.html
04 March 2015, 20:09
Rusty
I just spoke with Todd Neice at Rudolf Optics in Fort Worth. He was very helpful and I ordered two, sets. One long one short.

330.705.7458 direct line

Email addy todd@rudolphoptics.com


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04 March 2015, 21:51
larryshores
Rusty:

I did the same thing. I imagine the short set in my ground blinds is about like a bench rest. I can't wait to try it out.
05 March 2015, 08:11
TexKD
Interesting. I would really like to hear what you think when you receive and try them Rusty and Larry. Then I have to figure out how to get them in the luggage too.
05 March 2015, 13:42
larryshores
TexKD:

I used mine at the range with fantastic results. I have yet to use them hunting.
05 March 2015, 18:05
surestrike
I've been using a similar set up for my girls for years. We use a double set of Bog Pods. It works well as long as daddy is the one who has to carry them all day.



05 March 2015, 18:19
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How come I always get stuck with homemade , ugly looking sticks?
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