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What would you prefer in a bolt rifle:
Woodleigh .338 300gn@2350
woodleigh .375 350gn@2150
 
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Of the two listed I'll take the 375. I'd prefer my 450 Dakota!
 
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I can't imagine anyone looking at a lion (at any distance) and wishing they had "less" gun.


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That's like a question my kid asked me not too long ago: Dad, would you rather be killed by crucifixion or by drowning? It's a Hobson's choice.

Neither of the loads you list is optimal for lion, IMO. The bullet choices are too heavy and the velocities too slow.

I have killed two lions, one with a .375 H&H Mag., shooting Hirtenberger factory ammunition launching a 272 grain ABC bullet at 2,700 fps, and the other with a .338 Win. Mag., shooting Federal Premium factory ammunition launching a 225 grain Barnes XLC coated X-Bullet at 2,800 fps.

In both cases, the bullets performed perfectly (even though I didn't--but that's another couple of stories).

IMO, my choices of loads for these calibers were good ones and while they can be equalled, would be hard to top.


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Both will work, my choice is the .375 for Lion..and better yet a 416...


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Posts: 42320 | Location: Twin Falls, Idaho | Registered: 04 June 2000Reply With Quote
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What would you prefer in a bolt rifle:
Woodleigh .338 300gn@2350
woodleigh .375 350gn@2150


I would prefer the .375, but I would go with a 300 grain North Fork at 2550 fps.
 
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I cannot really quote from an extensive background of lion shooting (2!) but one was with a 7x57, which was a totally defensive situation with the worlds luckiest headshot, and the second was a far more satisfactory result of a hunt using a 416Rem. Of the two, I would take the 416, or bigger, any day!
Having said that, given your choices, I would follow 500grs lead, and go with the 375, and a stoutly constructed 300gr soft point.
Lions look REALLY big and REALLY fast when they are charging at you.
just my $0.02 worth.

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I think I'll go for the 375 of the options given. However given my choice a 470 Mbogo, 500 A2 , 550 mag or the 600 OK all with one of my expanding FN solids.

It will put the hurt on him and also provide shock value. and in case of a charge the bullet will penetrate deepenough to get to his ass via his head in a pinch.

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Either of these would work just fine, and I doubt the lion would know the difference.

But, I wonder why you are using such heavy bullets for caliber at relatively low velocity for lion.

I would have preferred higher velocity with lighter bullets myself. Such as 250 grains in the 338 and 300 grains in the 375.


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What 500Grains said!

I have no problem with the 338, if I didn't have a 375 H&H, but since I do, I'd use the 375 H&H at 2550 fps with the 300 gr North Fork soft point, or Nosler Partition! Of course what you suggest will kill a lion, I just think the 375H&H with a lighter 300 gr bullet is best! beer


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What would you prefer in a bolt rifle:
Woodleigh .338 300gn@2350
woodleigh .375 350gn@2150


I'd take the .375, but not with your heavy for caliber 350 grains, Nosler 300 will be good though. JMO
 
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