Ladies and Gentlemen,

Has anyone else used No-Jet-Lag Pills?

On our first safari, we suffered from serious jet lag. On our last three safaris we have used these pills and have had great results with them.

Usually I am skeptical of homeopathic remedies, but this one has been effective for us.

Interested if anyone else has used them.

Regards,

Terry

Terry,

I've used them them in 03 and 04 and I believe they work well.

Terry,
We used them and I'm a believer based on the difference in the way we felt. We weren't jumping around and turning cartwheels but we weren't so deep in a fog. I noticed more of an effect on the return trip.
Melody
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Terry, I used them on my past few trips, and they seem to work as advertised.

I used them on my first trip then on three later safaris I did not.

I could not tell any difference between using them and not using them.

In the last three safaris when I did not use no-jet-lag pills I got more sleep on the plane than I did on the first trip over due to being more "keyed up" the first time. Perhaps that is the reason I couldn't tell any difference.

After a lot of research and a lot of trial and error, including no-jet-lag pills, I believe I have found the best formula.
The program on stopjetlag.com has worked well for myself and many of my friends.

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Originally posted by T.Carr:
Usually I am skeptical of homeopathic remedies, but this one has been effective for us.

So what's the main ingredients, valerian or something?

Some placebos work as a matter of fact.....


I have found if you drink a lot of orange juice, water, stay away from Alcohol and try to sleep, it works about as good as anything...but I never suffer jet lag to any degree, so I may not be the one to answer this question..

That's because your old Ray. Your jet-lagged all the time, therefore you can't see any difference.

Dave

That could well be the case, no doubt!

So, where do you get this 'miracle" at? I'm leaving in less than two weeks for Africa, hunting Elephant, Cape Buffalo and Lion, among other things, and want to be at the top of my hunting game.

I believe Magellan's carries them.

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Originally posted by Atkinson:
Some placebos work as a matter of fact.....


I have found if you drink a lot of orange juice, water, stay away from Alcohol and try to sleep, it works about as good as anything...but I never suffer jet lag to any degree, so I may not be the one to answer this question..

I agree with Ray on this one.
Placebo effect. Homeopathy is quackery.

Ray's advice is as good as any strategy for coping with jet lag. And now that Uncle Ray has said what works, it will work for you too, better than homeopathy.

Of course the judicious use of a "go-pill" and a "no-go-pill" may facilitate the mission in times of emergency, but would be folly for recreation.

Anybody know if it is carried at Wal Mart?

No jet lag pills:
Go to your doctor (if he or she is not an idiot).
Get some Ambien or Lunesta, plus some Provigil. Take Ambien or Lunesta so as to sleep at the normal African time on the way over. Take the Provigil at normal African wake up time. Repeat as necessary. It ain't natural, but it works. The military uses a modified version of this protocol when taking folks overseas who need to hit the ground running and shooting.
You can also, in effect, sleep through a day going over.
Back in my day, flying a fighter over the pond involved using Restoril the afternoon before to get a full eight hours sleep before the 02:00 am take-off from the US air base, and taking a small dose of amphetamine if you felt like you were getting the nods over the ocean.
Of course most of the guys would take the Restoril, fight to keep their eyes open on the way over and take the go-fast pill when we landed in Germany so they could get in an evening of dancing, drinking & debauchery.
My solution in the next few years will be to work in the same, or nearly same, time zone as the hunting fields and fly South/North to get there and back .

lawndart

Lawndart:

Once again, you're just a wealth of information! Thank you. I'd figured on the Ambien, but didn't know about the Provigil. I'm not concerned about "natural" at this point in my life. I've done the "gut it out" thing before and I'd just rather make my life easier at this point. Thanks very much, again.

Russ

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Originally posted by lawndart:

Go to your doctor (if he or she is not an idiot).
Get some Ambien... plus some Provigil.

Well, pooey. I don't know that my doctor is an idiot, but... when I asked him for both of the above, he said he'd rather I just go buy some melatonin.

Now, I've used melatonin (when I worked third shift for six years). It "helps"... somewhat. However, unless I take about three or four tablets, it does nothing for me... and, if I take three or four tablets, I have dreams like worms coming out of aliens' heads and my gun is out of ammo and... well, things like that.

I'd rather just knock myself out on the plane and be "fresh" when I land in Africa. Oh well. So much for Ambien and Provigil.



Russ

Ambien works and if you follow Lawndart's protocol you'll be ready to go when you hit africa. We just did it and it work. jorge

Yup, I'm all for it... but like I said, my doctor won't prescribe it... nor the Provigil.

Maybe I'll try the No-Jet-Lag stuff.

Russ

I used to work overseas on 35 and 35 rotational basis and had the 2 million frequent flier miles to prove it. I tried the no jet-lag-pills, melatonine and oxygen treatments. None seemed to work. What finally worked for me was actually Bose noise cancelling headsets. It was amazing how I could fall asleep faster and felt almost as good as if I had a nights sleep in my bed. They also work amazingly well for when you have that kid that fusses during the whole flight.
Last year I bought 2 pair for my sister and her husband who travel quit a bit. They too found the same results with them.
Also important is to get plenty of water. I always get extra water with any meals and usually bring 2-3 bottles of water with me on the flight.

Canuck32

Ps for some reason I never had jetlag when traveling east but only seemed to get it when traveling westbound.

Terry,

I have several friends that are Delta pilots. To a man they tell me the single most important thing to prevent jet lag is to stay hydrated. A liter of water per person per 7-8 hour flight. Pump down the water a time your sleep with your destination. When all else is failing use Ambien or Lunesta. Hugh

Ambien can seriously affect your short term memory. It absolutely had the effect on me. It was terrifying. In fact most sleep aids have side effects. This is probably the source of many doctor's reluctance to prescribe it for a trip.

Lunesta is supposed to be the most tolerable. But then again were are all different people.

Melatonin is a good non-prescription choice. Sometimes it works and sometimes it doesn't.

The first thing you should do in a new time zone is get up at the crack of dawn, regardless on when you went to sleep and sit in the sunlight for an hour. Then no naps until it gets dark again. Amazingly this helps a great deal.

Russ, you might just try what I did when my doctor wouldn't prescribe it for me when I thought it was a reasonable request. I fired him and found another more reasonable doctor. Good hunting.

I am light sleeper and I was concerned about the Atlanta/RSA flight and how it would affect me. I thought about Tylenol PM but they leave me feeling fuzzy and slightly disoriented upon waking up unless I get a full night sleep.

I then heard about Ambien and decided to give it a try. It was perfect for me. No drug hangover or after effects. I got 4-5 hours of good sleep which in coach on SAA which is not bad. I also wore eyeshades and comfortable ear plugs which SAA provided. When it was sleep time I pulled out my Ambien from my kit and 3 or 4 people sitting near me saw the Ambien and they all commented they they were taking the same thing.

Drink plenty of water, go easy on the wine and try to sleep at African time as Lawndart suggested. I was tired upon arrival but was ready to go on the first hunting day.

Russ, unless you have a medical history that might be affected by Ambien or any sleeping agent, I agree that a new physician meet be in order.

Regards,

RCG

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Originally posted by RIP:
I agree with Ray on this one.
Placebo effect. Homeopathy is quackery.

Maybe you should remember that all modern medicine(read that DRUGS) were originally drived from homeopathy and natural substances. Even doctors knew that before they became whores to the big drug companies to push pills for free flights to Cancun and such !!!

I'll start by saying that I am unable to sleep on an airplane. Previous trips east, 9 hours time difference, I have been horribly jet-lagged. This time I used the No-Jet-Lag pills and drank plenty of water. I arrived in the evening at Jo'burg, 31 hours without sleep. 6 hours sleep at the Afton House, and I felt pretty good the next day.

Coming back, no pills, 41 hours without sleep.
6 hours in my own bed, I felt good.

There may be something to the east/west travel thing.

Dave