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I have looked at a lot of post and trolled through the archives. What should be the added cost of taxidermy & extras including tips? I already have some good advise from outfitters on the etiquette for tips which I am comfortable with - given that we do not have a tipping culture in NZ. I am trying to come up with a thumb rule as follows.

Should I add 20% or 40%??? Please tell me if I am making sense or way off the park.

Plains game - 7 days - $7k including 5 to 7 trophies like Kudu, Zebra, Gemsbok, Wart hog, various antelopes as per price list. What should I factor in for the extras, shipping and taxidermy? Will $5k do?

Buffalo - 10 days - $ 10k incl trophy Add $4 k to $6k for plains game

Leopard - 12 days - $12k plus bait. Add extras for plains game or buffalo. Again what does it cost to full mount a leopard.

The summary questions are

Can I do a 7 day plains game hunt in Namibia or free range RSA for kudu, Bush buck, antelopes & Wart hog - total budget $12k including $2k for airfare? Is this too high, low or just median?

Can I do a 10 day buffalo & plains game hunt in Zimbabwe for $18k including flights?

Can I do a Leopard, buffalo & plains game hunt in 14 days for $25k including flights?

My only outfitted hunt was for black bear & mule deer in BC when I was in North America on business. The taxidermy & shipping of the trophies along with some extras probably cost me as much as the $3k hunt for 6 days! Flights were part of business.

I would like to have an accurate total figure in mind to target so that I don't get my expectations too high or screw up my experience with stressing over cost over runs.


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Hi Naki
Im not sure what plane rides cost, most PG PH`s get tipped $50-$100 a day and trackers $10-$20 a day.

Taxidermy is cheaper if done here, in that the Dip and pack costs fall away and so do the need for Bonded agents etc and a lot of red tape.Taxidermy can be delivered directly to your house as it is a processed product.Not sure about New Zealand though.

In SA a 10 day safari can be anyware from $5k-$10K depending on your animal choice.

most guys want $300 a day and with a long list could give you a 10% rebate. Make suer that the hunting is free range if thats what you want as namibia also has fenced properties.And what is fenced? 1000acres 50 000acres Kruger is fenced at 4 000 000 acres.

For taxidermy prices try http://www.karootaxidermy.com and http://www.splittingimagetaxidermy.co.za

there are too many variables to give you a accurate answer.
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What you're asking is how long is a piece of string?

Every operation varies in price because it varies in quality and many other things.

You need to decide what criteria you want to apply for a hunt, then do your research, then ask for contracts that detail every cent of expenditure, then compare what you get for your money and then book.

This link http://www.shakariconnection.c...an-african-hunt.html and the links on that page/site will help you dramatically.

Regarding taxidermy: Quality and prices vary immensely and as you're going to be looking at your trophies for years to come, I'd recommend you don't make price alone you're main criteria. This http://www.shakariconnection.c...rophy-taxidermy.html might be of interest to you.

If you want to know about correct trophy preparation (and every hunter should) you might like to look here: http://www.shakariconnection.c...ng-trophies-dvd.html






 
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Naki, you should post this on Africa - reference and info forum. You might get a better responce than placing it here.
 
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Naki,

What all the above members said... dancing


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I figure a good rule of thumb is price of hunt then double it. That will get you shipping of trophies, travel , lay over experience,vip service, drinks and meal during travel, tips,dip and pack, and anything else you might encounter, along the way. I was given this formula by a friend who has been on many safari'e and the numbers came out all most to the penny for my safari this yr.
 
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A nice 7 day PG hunt in RSA or Namibia can be completed for $10-12K all inclusive from the time you leave the front door and the trophies are on the wall provided you don't get too crazy with lifesized mounts.

I can't comment on the DG as I haven't hunted them yet.


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I am hunting for plains game next year in SA.
14 days 12 animals.

I am budgeting 15k for the hunt. 1500 for airfare from the US and 7500 for taxiderrmy.

I have not figured in tips and such yet but that will liklu be another 1kish.

I still need tofigure out a few extras like a couple days in hotel in Jo"berg as I want to referee a local rugby game and run with the Jo'Berg Hash House harriers whilest I am there.


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depending on the style mounts you want your figures for taxidermy seams a little low. a full body mount for a baboon is 1600 and up
 
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Nakihunter,

What I would suggest is that you contact myself, Wendell, Aaron Neilson etc. Ask what it will cost to hunt x,y,z animals, what amount of time is recommended and who do we recommend for the hunt. We can give you a to the penny estimate of in-country costs and a pretty good guess on what the other costs might be. For mounting costs I'd refer you directly to a NZ taxidermist specializing in African mounts. One thing to consider on the taxidemy is that you don't have to get everything mounted all at once. I personally have animals with my taxidermist dating back to '07. I just get them mounted as I can afford.

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Plains game - 7 days - $7k including 5 to 7 trophies like Kudu, Zebra, Gemsbok, Wart hog, various antelopes as per price list. What should I factor in for the extras, shipping and taxidermy? Will $5k do?

Buffalo - 10 days - $ 10k incl trophy Add $4 k to $6k for plains game

Leopard - 12 days - $12k plus bait. Add extras for plains game or buffalo. Again what does it cost to full mount a leopard.



I'm assuming $2k for airfare

I'm assuming $500 for various miscellaneous items

I'm using a good average rate for Taxidermy here in the US. I don't know how they would differ for you

I'm using a good average rate for Dip/Pack/Shipping to the US. I don't know how they would differ for you


Plains game - 7 days - $7k including 5 to 7 trophies
Add $2,500 for flights and misc
Add $1000 for tips
Add $500 for Dip/Pack
Add $1,500 for shipping
Add $4,200 for shoulder mounts of 6 animals
= $16,700 total

Buffalo - 10 days - $ 10k incl trophy Add $4 k to $6k for plains game (assuming $5k)
Add $2,500 for flights and misc
Add $1,500 for tips
Add $1,000 for Dip/Pack
Add $2,000 for shipping
Add $5,000 for shoulder mounts of 6 animals including buffalo
= $27,000 total

For Leopard, you have to many variables to give a price estimate. Full body mount Leopards cost about $3,000 here.


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depending on the style mounts you want your figures for taxidermy seams a little low. a full body mount for a baboon is 1600 and up


At bet I willdo shoulder mounts of most things.
I expext a few will get european mounts.

I have no space for a full body mount anyway LOL


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1000$ Tips for a 7day plains game hunt?
That is a lot Wink !

Don't know about other costs (because I fly from europe) but I never paid more than 1000$ for a flight and always less then 1500$ for taxidermy/packing/shipping (only 3-5trophies skullmounts and skins).


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I euro. mount and then bronze the skulls it looks really great
 
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ddrhook, I would love to see one of your bronzed mounts. Would you mind posting a picture please?


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ddrhook, I would love to see one of your bronzed mounts. Would you mind posting a picture please?


Brian,

They are, quite simply, fan-fuckin'-tastic! tu2






 
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I have some pictures posted on the taxidermy thread a awhile back look on page six. I have some more pictures on my camera I have not uploaded yet. the ones posted have high gloss finish I also do them without the high gloss
rotflmo I think Steve sleeps with the mugger croc I did for him. But thats understandable Aubrey kidnapped it for 6 or 7 months Big Grin Big Grin
 
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I'm afraid he's going to try to kidnap it back and hold it to ransom! rotflmo

more seriously, they look bloody great and if anyone has a slightly darkened corner in their trophy room especially, they'd look just ultra cool with a coloured light on them! tu2






 
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and you would know about lurking in dark corners right?????? jumping jumping sheep Trimble at the mention of your name animal animal animal animal animal
 
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C'mon. I'm not that baaaaaaaaad. Wink






 
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what happen's in the bush stay's in the bush animal Wink hilbily
 
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Or in this case.... the fleece! rotflmo






 
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Steve, thanks for posting that thread! Can't wait to show it to my taxidermist, that will keep him busy.


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Brian,

It's a very specialised process. You'd be much better off sending them to Hook and having him do them for you.






 
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Steve where did you get the muggar skull from?

The bronze skulls are awesome.

Back to the thread....I would appreciate some posts with actual hunt costs with break up

How much was a 7 day - 5 to 7 animal PG hunt + extras + taxidermy ?

How much was a 10 day buffalo & PG hunt with similar break up?

My current inclination is to plan a 10 day hunt in real wild Africa for Buffalo & PG. I want to really experience the true wilderness and remote locations, rivers, lakes etc.

I am not a trophy hunter & so taxidermy is a minor issue. Skulls & tanned skins are ample unless it is a 55"+ Kudu or a caracal. I would use the buffalo skin for making gun case, brief case etc. Those are trophies I can use and get pleasure out of even in a business meeting! A bronzed buffalo skull would be awesome - I would be very happy with a 37" spread with good hooks & 18" boss!!! Am I being greedy????


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These taxidermy costs freak me out!! You may not know it but you will be going back. Buy a good camera and take good pics and use the money saved for your next trip. I shipped a few things back the first trip....the next 2 trips just pics and haven't regretted it a bit. Just my opinion....
 
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PM your email...I will send you a spreadsheet for calculations...

for a 7-10 day PG hunt figure $8K-12K all in depending on country hunted and species taken

for a 10 day buffalo hunt figure $16k-$18K depending on country hunted and species taken

The above number exclude tanzania


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These taxidermy costs freak me out!! You may not know it but you will be going back. Buy a good camera and take good pics and use the money saved for your next trip. I shipped a few things back the first trip....the next 2 trips just pics and haven't regretted it a bit. Just my opinion....


Totally agree. If you are on a budget then get rid of the cost of taxidermy and spend it on hunting. European mounts are an alternative and these can be done yourself.


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actually the price is not that great only everything you own and your soul in the process, but it is a price a lot of us are willing to pay Smiler

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