I just thought I would swing through the Nosler website and see what the new caliber was for 2006. HMMMM Turns out they still have 250ish of the 300 WSM rifles left.

Turns out no one wants to pay $4000 for a factory rifle if they can't pick the scope, action, or caliber.

I wonder how well Bill Wiseman did on this project, as I am pretty posative those are his actions and barrels.

250 left maybe it's time for Nosler to think about selling them for half off to get rid of them. I still don't want one as I dont' think that's a good caliber or scope.

Nothing wrong with Bill Wiseman's stuff though.

D99

When I first read about it, I thought Nosler's decision to bring out a "custom" rifle was one of their dumber ideas.

-Bob F.

They was at least smart enough to not give up their day job.

Aha! I told them to make some in Left-Hand

BTW, they are already testing the latest edition........................
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Cheers,
CL

the 300WSM is a superb caliber! I own several 30-06 and 2 300WM also a Win mdl 70 300WSM..put 165 gr handloads in that thing and sight it in for 200 yds...you need no other caliber for anything up to DG from ground squirrels

That Nosler rifle was easy to forget. I like the WSM's however.

The barrel on the Nosler rifle is indeed Bill Wiseman's. A "source close to the project" told me the actions were cast in Oregon (by the same company who cast the Kimber of Oregon actions).

Other "intel" I have is the .300 WSM will probably endure as a factory round, but the other short-fat cartridges are in trouble.

jim

kinda reminds of a few moons ago when my neighbors at gopher shooters supply made a run of winchesters 94's they called the bald eagle commerative. They finally cut the prices in half and lost their buns on the project. It's just not very possible to build a collectors item as a new project.

Don't tell that to Davidson's Gallery of Guns they always have special runs being made

Jim, that company was 'Precision Cast Parts' of Portland. With the old Kimber 'Big Game Rifle', there were considerable quality-control issues with those recievers. If PCP is doing the current action for Nosler, I would hope that those same-type issues have been eliminated.

I looked over one of Nosler's rifles at the RMEF convention this year, and it wasn't a bad rifle at all. It wasn't a true best-quality product, but it was not a bad rifle, and I believe it's worth the asking price. The scope system is terrific, and the rifle balanced and pointed very well and felt really good. It's an honest hunting rifle.........

AD

I have always thought that if they had built a Model 70 clone, and chambered it in 270 win. it would have sold a lot better.

They should realize they are trading on their NAME and nostalgia. Not real clear why they went with a oddball action and a goofy chambering.

A member f a club I belong to showed up with one tof these rifles, beautiful gun, it had a 2.5x8 Vlll on it but I doubt I would pay the 4K for it, I told him I would put the first nick on it if he showed me that he was not armed....he refused I also told him what a nice case and wait till the first airline cargo handler gets a hand on it. Trust me iI love to see a nice gun but maybe I am not wealthy enough to hunt one of them and scratch it up, it is like the guy who pays 70K for a 4X4 and refuses to take it off the road.

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Originally posted by McCray:
I have always thought that if they had built a Model 70 clone, and chambered it in 270 win. it would have sold a lot better.

They should realize they are trading on their NAME and nostalgia. Not real clear why they went with a oddball action and a goofy chambering.

A M70 wouldn't have sold any better, it wasn't the gun, and it wasnt' the cartridge, it was the price and the mystery about what kind of action it is.

Nosler beleives that consumers are nieve enough to buy a rifle from a company that doesn't make rifles and curtainly didn't make this one.

Nosler was also nieve enough to charge $4000 for a rifle made with a cast receiver of unknown origin.

Stupid Nosler, or stupid consumers that buy the dman things. Only 250 people have bought into this concept.

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Only 250 people have bought into this concept.

It just occurred to me to do the math: 250 x $4,000 = $1,000,000

Of course, that's not a lot of money by big corporate standards but it's still a nice little chunk of change. Naturally, it's not all profit. I wonder how much gross profit they make on each rifle?

-Bob F.

I bet they make $2700!

Bastards!

Allen,

Thanks for the data and the personal observations on the rifle. I have only seen a prototype rifle so far.

Bob,

I saw a description of the materials flow for each rifle, and that has to cost them more than a factory operation. Action is cast,then trued in Orygun, then off to Texas for barrel and somewhere I don't remember for finish, then back to OR for the stock.

They also sell direct so perhaps they recapture some of the distribution cost.

jim

In discussion with Bill W at the SHOT show, he said that Ruger was doing the casting. I think he would know...

After I got the first intel on where the actions are cast, I later had a query answered by a source inside Nosler: both say Oregon.

Ruger's Pinetree is casting the Montana Rifleman M99, perhaps Bill W. was thinking of that.

jim

Where are the Kimber actions cast, also in Oregon??

Not that this necessarily would be a "smoking gun", as investment casting is probably not limited to firearms manufacturing...
- mike

mho,

The Kimber of Oregon actions were cast in Oregon. That company is no more, and the name has been "moved" to New York by the current owner.

I don't know how they make their rifle actions. When they make standard length and longer actions, I will pay more attention. I did ask them about when they might do that, and they admit to thinking about it.

jim