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Hi, I´m toying with the idea of buying a rifle in 10.75x68 and I was wondering if anyone has used this cal. in Africa? What type of bullet, load, game etc. | ||
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Why the questions is there something about it that you don't think will work... I mean a 40+ caliber bullet weighing over 400 grns at what 2300...what is not going to work Mike Legistine actu quod scripsi? Never under estimate the internet community's ability to reply to your post with their personal rant about their tangentially related, single occurrence issue.  What I have learned on AR, since 2001: 1. The proper answer to: Where is the best place in town to get a steak dinner? is…You should go to Mel's Diner and get the fried chicken. 2. Big game animals can tell the difference between .015 of an inch in diameter, 15 grains of bullet weight, and 150 fps. 3. There is a difference in the performance of two identical projectiles launched at the same velocity if they came from different cartridges. 4. While a double rifle is the perfect DGR, every 375HH bolt gun needs to be modified to carry at least 5 down. 5. While a floor plate and detachable box magazine both use a mechanical latch, only the floor plate latch is reliable. Disregard the fact that every modern military rifle uses a detachable box magazine. 6. The Remington 700 is unreliable regardless of the fact it is the basis of the USMC M40 sniper rifle for 40+ years with no changes to the receiver or extractor and is the choice of more military and law enforcement sniper units than any other rifle. 7. PF actions are not suitable for a DGR and it is irrelevant that the M1, M14, M16, & AK47 which were designed for hunting men that can shoot back are all PF actions. 8. 95 deg F in Africa is different than 95 deg F in TX or CA and that is why you must worry about ammunition temperature in Africa (even though most safaris take place in winter) but not in TX or in CA. 9. The size of a ding in a gun's finish doesn't matter, what matters is whether it’s a safe ding or not. 10. 1 in a row is a trend, 2 in a row is statistically significant, and 3 in a row is an irrefutable fact. 11. Never buy a WSM or RCM cartridge for a safari rifle or your go to rifle in the USA because if they lose your ammo you can't find replacement ammo but don't worry 280 Rem, 338-06, 35 Whelen, and all Weatherby cartridges abound in Africa and back country stores. 12. A well hit animal can run 75 yds. in the open and suddenly drop with no initial blood trail, but the one I shot from 200 yds. away that ran 10 yds. and disappeared into a thicket and was not found was lost because the bullet penciled thru. I am 100% certain of this even though I have no physical evidence. 13. A 300 Win Mag is a 500 yard elk cartridge but a 308 Win is not a 300 yard elk cartridge even though the same bullet is travelling at the same velocity at those respective distances. | |||
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It will not work at all. You should just send it to me.  I have been thinking about building one of these, although I got sidetracked for a bit with another project. If you have not already done so you should do a search as Ray Atkinson has posted some information. | |||
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I have been toying and playing with the 10.75x68 for a year of two now...I had a wonderful Hoffman but LB 404 bought it from me..I have been building one on a FN action since that time..It is done except for checkering the stock...I tested it out in an old FN stock and got 2120 with a 400 gr. Woodleigh, and 2350 with a 350 gr. Bridger flat nose solid, all chronographed....The gun will weigh a tad under 8 pounds it seems, depending on how much wood is lost from checkering!  and it will be my walk about behind the hunters rifle while on Safari and not hunting...but I will shoot a few buffalo with it just to bloody it....The balistics are exactly the same as the original loadings of the 404 Jefferys and the bullet of course are the same .423 bullets offered by most bullet companies today...recoil is perhaps less than my .375 or so it seems to me... All in all it has been widely overlooked and sufferd from poor bullets of yesterday, but today its pretty hard to beat IMO.....Will it ever be a popular round, I doubt it nor is it a caliber for everyone, but for an old bullet digger like myself who hates to use the same caliber too much its a new toy and something to experiment with, thats my thang... I love this little gun, will have someone with better computer skills than I post pictures of my 10.75 when I get the checkering finished, but I am slow checkering as I get headaches and do it by hand...so it will be awhile. Ray Atkinson Atkinson Hunting Adventures 10 Ward Lane, Filer, Idaho, 83328 208-731-4120 rayatkinsonhunting@gmail.com | |||
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I had better stipulate that's the plan, but my whore self is prone to selling these guns for money before my plans take place!!! knowing that I can always build another!  Ray Atkinson Atkinson Hunting Adventures 10 Ward Lane, Filer, Idaho, 83328 208-731-4120 rayatkinsonhunting@gmail.com | |||
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Thanks Ray, Mike and vultures (joke)! About a month ago I promised myself "no more guns, I have what I need" fully knowing that this feeling would evaporate. It did. Boha has a nice 10.75 and he´s been trying to get me interested in one. My interest was actually awakened after I got my 9.3x62 and I now love that gun so why not another teutonian in the house? But the caliber has been badmouthed (bad bullets etc) a lot so I´ve been suspicious of it. IF I was to buy one I´d like to try it on DG (can´t explain that), possibly next year. So you wouldn´t feel undergunned going up against an ele? | |||
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cewe, You will always feel undergunned going up against any creature without having boha and me as backup! We will stay under that Amaroula tree, drinking ice cold beer and laugh at you Husky | |||
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Husky: Seems all my friends -old and new- are just waiting around for my next f-ckup! Entertaining you guys brings meaning to my life | |||
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Ray, since you have both and have used both, what differences are there between the 10.75 and the 404. Not paper differences but in for instance, getting the gun built (feeding issues, mag box etc), and performance. Just curious. Thanks. Red | |||
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Daggo Red., The 404 is a difficult gun to build on a Mauser action, but it can be done at high costs... The 10.75 is a snap, rebarrel it, tweek the action and rails and your in business, I lengthen the action and throat myself, but you don't have to do that.... The 10.75 will equal the original loadings of the .404, and thats the load that made it famous...a 400 gr. bullet at 2100 FPS and thats about the best a 10.75 will do...and I shoot a Bridger 350 gr. .423 flat nose solid at 2350 FPS and its a killer for sure...The Woodleigh 350 gr. soft point is an excellent bullet and will give you good expansion on water buffalo and Aussie cattle, I am told by some folks that use it on them... Its an interresting caliber, light recoil even in my under 8 pound rifle, and has all the killing power I need for buff, Lion, but I would not personally use it on elephant unless I had to, not that I don't think it would work, but it is a bit light and I would prefer a .470 and a double rifle on those big boys..... I would venture to say the 10.75 would equal the 375 on elephant, but I like bigger guns on elephant myself, starting with a warm loaded 404 or a 416 Rem or my 470.... Ray Atkinson Atkinson Hunting Adventures 10 Ward Lane, Filer, Idaho, 83328 208-731-4120 rayatkinsonhunting@gmail.com | |||
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Dago, Sorry I didn't answer your main question, and that is how the 10.75 compares to a 404... I load my 404 with a 26" tube and a massive dose of IMR-4831 from 2400 FPS to 2653 FPS over my chronograph and pressure are not all that high...I load my 10.75 at 2120 FPS and that is a max load in my gun but a good max load with H335...so as you can see the 404 easily out classes the 10.75, but strictly on buff or Lion I doubt that you can tell any difference... Ray Atkinson Atkinson Hunting Adventures 10 Ward Lane, Filer, Idaho, 83328 208-731-4120 rayatkinsonhunting@gmail.com | |||
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Ray, I assume if someone gave you a Model 70 action you would consider using it. I would think that loaded the way Ray says it should be a great lion load, work for buffalo, but a little light for me on elephant in close cover. Semi open country, side brain shot no problem and lighter to pack around unless you are into letting the gunbearer do the work, then go as big a you can shoot well and you'll be happy. | |||
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Africanhunter, A model 70 classic in ultramag caliber or a Montana magnum action for the ultramag will make a fine .404..albiet I stuck with the Mauser as its traditional and nostalgic, something I have a problem getting past, and feel sorry for those that are not effected with such a malody! Ray Atkinson Atkinson Hunting Adventures 10 Ward Lane, Filer, Idaho, 83328 208-731-4120 rayatkinsonhunting@gmail.com | |||
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