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By Francis Lungu | Updated: 31 May,2015 ,09:41:04


THE Zambia Wildlife Authority has released lion and leopard population statistics which are contrary to the estimates announced by tourism minister Jean Kapata.

Lifting the ban on hunting of the big cats, Kapata last week said her ministry had done an aerial survey and established that the country had more than 4,000 lions and leopards were in excess of 8,000.

Kapata’s decision was, however, heavily opposed by conservationists, who said Zambia currently did not have proper data on wildlife statistics.

According to a statement released on Friday by ZAWA public relations officer Sakabilo Kalembwe, the authority indicated it was conscious of the fact that Zambia only had three big cat clusters in the Luangwa Valley, Kafue and Lower Zambezi ecological systems.

“ZAWA is taking a cautionary approach to the lion population. It is currently estimated that in all the three clusters there are between 1,500 to 2,500 lions and about 4,000 leopards as the worst case scenario,” Kalembwe stated.
He stated that big cats were never counted in the same manner as antelope or other larger mammals.

“Cats by nature are secretive and are not usually found in very large numbers like impalas or Zebras,” Kalembwe stated.

The authority stated that the estimates of the big cats were based on long term monitoring, and that different conservationists had given varying lion population estimates in Zambia depending on the extent of their observations.

ZAWA noted that Zambia was currently ranked highly in terms of its big cat population in the sub-region after Tanzania, South Africa and Botswana.

Kalembwe further stated that the African Cats Specialist Group of the International Union for the Conservation of Nature (CSG IUCN) considered Zambia’s lion population to be medium with a stable population status trend.

According to ZAWA, from a global perspective, Zambia’s lion population could be hunted and trophies exported.

The authority stated that proceeds from the hunting would generate reasonable income for the country.

“Hunting of big cats contributes to the local and the national economy through job creation, tourism, and ultimately income generated contributes significantly to conservation of wildlife resources,” Kalembwe stated.
He stated that only selected lions would be hunted.

“Guidelines regulating lion hunting have been developed. These guidelines prescribe hunting of male lions aged six years and above and these lions should not be associated with any pride. This implies that these cats being hunted are old and are no longer breeding, thus have a diminished biological function,” said Kalembwe.



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I have to wonder how you do lion and leopard population surveys from the air!!!!


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I have to wonder how you do lion and leopard population surveys from the air!!!!


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You get in an airplane and fly over them. When you see a number of prides all close together you count the legs and divide by four.
 
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ZAWA, govt lion population figures differ

By Francis Lungu | Updated: 31 May,2015 ,09:41:04


THE Zambia Wildlife Authority has released lion and leopard population statistics which are contrary to the estimates announced by tourism minister Jean Kapata.

Lifting the ban on hunting of the big cats, Kapata last week said her ministry had done an aerial survey and established that the country had more than 4,000 lions and leopards were in excess of 8,000.

Kapata’s decision was, however, heavily opposed by conservationists, who said Zambia currently did not have proper data on wildlife statistics.

According to a statement released on Friday by ZAWA public relations officer Sakabilo Kalembwe, the authority indicated it was conscious of the fact that Zambia only had three big cat clusters in the Luangwa Valley, Kafue and Lower Zambezi ecological systems.

“ZAWA is taking a cautionary approach to the lion population. It is currently estimated that in all the three clusters there are between 1,500 to 2,500 lions and about 4,000 leopards as the worst case scenario,” Kalembwe stated.
He stated that big cats were never counted in the same manner as antelope or other larger mammals.

“Cats by nature are secretive and are not usually found in very large numbers like impalas or Zebras,” Kalembwe stated.

The authority stated that the estimates of the big cats were based on long term monitoring, and that different conservationists had given varying lion population estimates in Zambia depending on the extent of their observations.

ZAWA noted that Zambia was currently ranked highly in terms of its big cat population in the sub-region after Tanzania, South Africa and Botswana.

Kalembwe further stated that the African Cats Specialist Group of the International Union for the Conservation of Nature (CSG IUCN) considered Zambia’s lion population to be medium with a stable population status trend.

According to ZAWA, from a global perspective, Zambia’s lion population could be hunted and trophies exported.

The authority stated that proceeds from the hunting would generate reasonable income for the country.

“Hunting of big cats contributes to the local and the national economy through job creation, tourism, and ultimately income generated contributes significantly to conservation of wildlife resources,” Kalembwe stated.
He stated that only selected lions would be hunted.

“Guidelines regulating lion hunting have been developed. These guidelines prescribe hunting of male lions aged six years and above and these lions should not be associated with any pride. This implies that these cats being hunted are old and are no longer breeding, thus have a diminished biological function,” said Kalembwe.



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Hi Kathi:

Two comments:

1. When the suspected "old" lion's are solitary, - to ascertain their age, - the hunter will need to check their teeth before shooting. Easier than it sounds. Dart them first and while they are out check. Then as they struggle to regain footing - BLAST - them. It's a LOT easier if they are in a fenced compound.

2. In an article I posted just a day or two ago it said:

Fifty years ago there were an estimated 100,000 lions in South Africa and maybe as many as 400,000 !!! **( See my comments above about how to count lions and leopards ).
 
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According to ZAWA, from a global perspective, Zambia’s lion population could be hunted and trophies exported. The authority stated that proceeds from the hunting would generate reasonable income for the country.“Hunting of big cats contributes to the local and the national economy through job creation, tourism, and ultimately income generated contributes significantly to conservation of wildlife resources,” Kalembwe stated.He stated that only selected lions would be hunted.

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The airline cargo carriers such as SAA have a different mindset.

To my South African friends, here in the USA we saw the screwball, left anti gun lobby succeed in banning airline pilots from carrying firearm and school teachers too banned. Then when the radicals shot up a few airplanes and schools the attitude changed. Now pilots and teachers carry guns.

It takes time, determination and effort as well as money.

This is a little bit difficult for me to get involved in. I'm not South African. I have to be very careful as to who I contact and what I say but my inclination is to make an effort.

To repeat there are still lots of airlines that will transport game parts.
 
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I have to wonder how you do lion and leopard population surveys from the air!!!!
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Especially for Leopard. Big Grin
 
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Hell no wonder why the EU and US have no confidence in the management of african wild life with ridiculous Statements like this.
 
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List of licensed PH's in Zimbabwe.

https://www.facebook.com/notes...we/10150569653931994

Guy Whitall #421 - 2003.

Great Scott - that's a LOT of PH's !!!!

I posted here going way back many years then took a long break lasting numerous years.

Back then our host of this site hunted there numerous times and I recall much discussion.

The PH was Roger *( something ). Can't remember his last name. Can't find a Roger in the above list. Whatever became of him ?????

If my memory hasn't failed me, back then Zim gained independence and the new President came in and swept through the country essentially destroying the ranches and farms and turning loose the swarms of peasants who squatted on the land. It was a very dangerous place, the roads and towns.

What's the current status ?

I'm bowled over by the numbers of licensed PH's. I would have guessed possibly 10 at most. Business can't be that bad if so many PH's are making a living. *( Or do they have a second job ? ). How many actually hunt ?

I lived in Ethiopia a long time ago and it was phenomenal, wild, primitive with swarms of game.

Now Zimbabwe sounds rather fascinating. In a toss up would the destination be Zim or RSA ??? Or Namibia ?
 
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I posted here going way back many years then took a long break lasting numerous years.



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I have to wonder how you do lion and leopard population surveys from the air!!!!
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Especially for Leopard. Big Grin


To be honest there are so many leopard there are simply not enough trees to go around.


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I have to wonder how you do lion and leopard population surveys from the air!!!!
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Especially for Leopard. Big Grin


To be honest there are so many leopard there are simply not enough trees to go around.


I am starting charity for trees!

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