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Anybody know the current world record as well as the "average" horn length one can expect? Thanks, DC300 DC300 | ||
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SCI record is 35 inches on the left horn and 35 7/8 on the right score is 84 4/8 over 24 inches should get you into SCI Rowland Wards is 32 7/8 (you need 27 inches to get into Rowland Wards I would think a average horn length would be around 23 to 24 inches. Good luck! "America's Meat - - - SPAM" As always, Good Hunting!!! Widowmaker416 | |||
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Here's a thread from a few weeks ago about the possible new #1 SCI Lesser Kudu. https://forums.accuratereloading.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/1411043/m/964107891 | |||
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As usual, SCI requires less! | |||
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I would think 23-24 is a bit on the low side for average. Lesser kudu seems to be one of those critters where the difference between average and great is fairly subtle, but I'd think "average" is more like 26 to 28--anything over 30 is spectacular. Not much difference. I shot one in Kenya that was an older bull with worn tips. He was 25 and change and definitely below average--but he was the only one I saw and I was delighted. Got another one in Tanzania in '88, a monster well over 32. I figger he's my best African trophy. | |||
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Hey Craig, Is that really you or a fan assuming your name? Have to say I love your books and am happy to see you on board here. We'd be honored to see you as often as you can stop in! PS: Have you heard any reports on Hornady's new Interbonds in .416" and .458"? I'm guessing they're an improvement over the old Interlock, but it's so recent a change it's hard to find many reports on it. Jeff .22 LR Ruger M77/22 30-06 Ruger M77/MkII .375 H&H Ruger RSM | |||
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No, I haven't used the "big" Interbonds (or even seen them). But I have no problem with the plain old Interlock in 400-grain .416 at Remington/Rigby velocities. They have always worked just fine for me. Ditto their 500-grain .458 at .458 Win. velocity, though I haven't used that caliber much. But I like the idea of a big Interbond like that, ought to be a great bullet. | |||
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Is that really Craig? What was Ken Elliott's boss' name under the old Petersen Outdoor Group? | |||
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Yeah, it's probably my evil twin instead of me. Ken's (also my) boss of many years was Tom Siatos, WWII Marine, great guy, now retired in Arizona. | |||
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That's exactly right.  I can confirm it's Craig and not an imposter. | |||
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Craig, You missed a hell of a quail hunt at my Chimney Hill ranch the weekend you went to the King Ranch. We got into 32 coveys of bobs and blues before the day ended. Then we got into steak and warm amber liquid about 6 PM. Maybe next time. Glad to see you on AR! Better tomorrows, Mims Reed You can borrow money but you can not borrow time. Go hunting with your family. | |||
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And how do we know you are who you say YOU are new_guy?   Best, JohnTheGreek | |||
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John the Greek, Communists are not allowed to post on thread with Marines. Mike Legistine actu? Quid scripsi? Never under estimate the internet community's ability to reply to your post with their personal rant about their tangentially related, single occurrence issue.  What I have learned on AR, since 2001: 1. The proper answer to: Where is the best place in town to get a steak dinner? is…You should go to Mel's Diner and get the fried chicken. 2. Big game animals can tell the difference between .015 of an inch in diameter, 15 grains of bullet weight, and 150 fps. 3. There is a difference in the performance of two identical projectiles launched at the same velocity if they came from different cartridges. 4. While a double rifle is the perfect DGR, every 375HH bolt gun needs to be modified to carry at least 5 down. 5. While a floor plate and detachable box magazine both use a mechanical latch, only the floor plate latch is reliable. Disregard the fact that every modern military rifle uses a detachable box magazine. 6. The Remington 700 is unreliable regardless of the fact it is the basis of the USMC M40 sniper rifle for 40+ years with no changes to the receiver or extractor and is the choice of more military and law enforcement sniper units than any other rifle. 7. PF actions are not suitable for a DGR and it is irrelevant that the M1, M14, M16, & AK47 which were designed for hunting men that can shoot back are all PF actions. 8. 95 deg F in Africa is different than 95 deg F in TX or CA and that is why you must worry about ammunition temperature in Africa (even though most safaris take place in winter) but not in TX or in CA. 9. The size of a ding in a gun's finish doesn't matter, what matters is whether it’s a safe ding or not. 10. 1 in a row is a trend, 2 in a row is statistically significant, and 3 in a row is an irrefutable fact. 11. Never buy a WSM or RCM cartridge for a safari rifle or your go to rifle in the USA because if they lose your ammo you can't find replacement ammo but don't worry 280 Rem, 338-06, 35 Whelen, and all Weatherby cartridges abound in Africa and back country stores. 12. A well hit animal can run 75 yds. in the open and suddenly drop with no initial blood trail, but the one I shot from 200 yds. away that ran 10 yds. and disappeared into a thicket and was not found was lost because the bullet penciled thru. I am 100% certain of this even though I have no physical evidence. 13. A 300 Win Mag is a 500 yard elk cartridge but a 308 Win is not a 300 yard elk cartridge even though the same bullet is travelling at the same velocity at those respective distances. | |||
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EXACTLY!!! Which begs the question... do we REALLY ever KNOW who someone is...  I wasn't aware that Craig had posted here before and wondered if someone had assumed his identity on the forum. I worked in Petersen's Outdoor Group years ago, and knew the real CB would have been familiar with the masthead. | |||
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It's not at all unusual to take a 30" lesser kudu in the Omo Valley. The Current # one in the SCI Book (84 1/2") was taken there in Dec. of 2002 and what will be the new # 1 (85") was taken there in March of 2004. This past Dec. we took a 34 1/2" Jan. 05 Produced a 32". Rich Elliott Rich Elliott Ethiopian Rift Valley Safaris | |||
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Sorry I missed it, sounds like a super quail hunt. But we really got into the nilgai, most I've seen in a long, long time. Theory is that freak snowstorm they had in S. Texas over Xmas moved them around a bit. Whatever the reason, it was good--and lotsa hogs, too.
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Rich, those are awesome lesser kudu. I saw several good ones in the Danakil but (stupidly counting pennies) I didn't buy a license. So don't know how big any of them really were. My little experience in Ethiopia suggests lesser kudu are bigger and more common than is the case in Tanzania today. Cheers, Craig
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