The Accurate Reloading Forums THE ACCURATE RELOADING.COM FORUMS Hunting African Big Game Hunting Strange trophy pic.....Go | New | Find | Notify | Tools | Reply | |
| Strange trophy pic..... | Login/Join |
One of Us |
I was hunting RSA with a guide in 2003 and he took me by his skinning shed and said, "I need to show you something." He then fished around in the salt and flipped over the prettiest big tiger cape one could imagine. He proceeded to show me a set of 33" waterbuck horns, a 62" kudu and a bunch of other trophies that don't occur naturally non-canned hunting. I was not impressed. He said the Dutch guy that shot the trophies had paid him a fortune, and I believe it. | |||
|
One of Us |
if thats photoshop, the guy is ion the wrong business. there isn't a 'tell' anywhere on the pic. | |||
|
One of Us |
No, I'm pretty certain that picture of Dee Snyder is real.  | |||
|
One of Us |
I'm sorry Chet but WE"RE NOT GONNA TAKE THIS!!!! | |||
|
One of Us |
That photograph shows no signs of having been "shopped". Looks like the straight poop. | |||
|
One of Us |
Interesting that canned tiger is so offensive, but canned NZ stags, canned/bakkie hunts etc are all OK as long as legal.  Probably no different to hunting a white rhino bred on a farm, and able to be hunted providing it provides $$$ for the farm and its conservation efforts. | |||
|
One of Us |
IMO, tigers should be farmed and shot - notice I did not say hunted. Imagine the fees collected, just as stated above, that could go toward preservation of both man and beast. Also, is an SA lion shoot any less "canned" than an SA tiger shoot? Nope. As for the picture, when folks are positioned behind the quarry it always exaggerates the size of the animal - just look at the cape buffalo at the top of this forum... And, unfortunately, the picture of Dee is not photoshopped... | |||
|
| One Of Us |
None of this is fair chase. It's a shame. If you go to their website, you see a few more photos that you will find disappointing: I assume, from their lion breeding area:  I assume, from their croc farm:   | |||
|
One of Us |
Here is a pic just before they went up on the cameroon pygmy goat hunt.  | |||
|
One of Us |
I also have a problem with if it is legal it's all right mentality. ROYAL KAFUE LTD Email - kafueroyal@gmail.com Tel/Whatsapp (00260) 975315144 Instagram - kafueroyal | |||
|
| One of Us |
Looks fine by me. First class air charter, a Tiger, Lioness and a couple of crocs. What a safari. ROYAL KAFUE LTD Email - kafueroyal@gmail.com Tel/Whatsapp (00260) 975315144 Instagram - kafueroyal | |||
|
| One of Us |
505 Gibbs asked, "Explain." Pretty reasonable request. Photoshop software is extremely sophisticated, versatile, and if one is patient easy to use. 1. Locate photo of "hunters." If not digital already, digitize. 2. Locate photo of Tiger. If not digital already, digitize. 3. Put both onscreen in a Photoshop "box." Merge to suit. If one is patient, there will be no "tell." Truth is, maybe I just want it to be Photoshopped, instead of real. | |||
|
One of Us |
I seem to remember that at one point in time or another it was "legal and ok" for young childern to work 40+ hours in dangerous factory jobs. Perhaps it was a good thing that everyone didn't agree to the "if it's legal it's ok by me" phylosophy. Just a thought. Brett DRSS Life Member SCI Life Member NRA Life Member WSF Rhyme of the Sheep Hunter May fordings never be too deep, And alders not too thick; May rock slides never be too steep And ridges not too slick. And may your bullets shoot as swell As Fred Bear's arrow's flew; And may your nose work just as well As Jack O'Connor's too. May winds be never at your tail When stalking down the steep; May bears be never on your trail When packing out your sheep. May the hundred pounds upon you Not make you break or trip; And may the plane in which you flew Await you at the strip. -Seth Peterson | |||
|
one of us |
I think you nailed it there. And I don't blame you. Jason "You're not hard-core, unless you live hard-core." _______________________ Hunting in Africa is an adventure. The number of variables involved preclude the possibility of a perfect hunt. Some problems will arise. How you decide to handle them will determine how much you enjoy your hunt. Just tell yourself, "it's all part of the adventure." Remember, if Robert Ruark had gotten upset every time problems with Harry Selby's flat bed truck delayed the safari, Horn of the Hunter would have read like an indictment of Selby. But Ruark rolled with the punches, poured some gin, and enjoyed the adventure. -Jason Brown | |||
|
| One of Us |
So the hunter on the right, did he kill the cat with the bow? Or did he just sit on it? | |||
|
| One of Us |
that septic trench is outstanding for photos. | |||
|
| One of Us |
Maybe someone from South Africa could educate us, but I don't think "shooting" (definitely not "hunting") a canned tiger is legal in South Africa. I thought they fixed that some time back. If it actually is legal, then I withdraw my rant about "our only distinction should be between legal and illegal." Obviously we need tighter personal rules, because the law cannot be trusted. | |||
|
One of Us |
And just like that, 2thdoc's hopes are dashed to a thousand pieces. Pity! A tiger like that one would have looked great in his waiting room, along with his lion.  ______________________ Hunting: I'd kill to participate. | |||
|
One of Us |
Indeed. The law is the most lenient of guides to life and living it. Mike Wilderness is my cathedral, and hunting is my prayer. | |||
|
| One of Us |
I thought tigers were proteced internationally through some treaty? | |||
|
one of us |
The laws will differ from province to province but in most at least, I think you'll find it's illegal and has been for some years...... However, I've seen that pic before and seem to remember it's at least several years old. FWIW, tigers are rated as no commercial trade etc. This kind of BS has gone on forever in Africa and I remember some plonker offering the same thing to me at least 20 years ago...... I told him to depart in a flurry of sexual endeavour..... or something like that!  dodgy deals have always been about in Africa and even in the 50s and 60s or so, Alexander Lake was writing about places that had mounted trophies and artistic African backgrounds etc that clients would pay to pose with to have their pictures taken. He says they were very popular indeed!  | |||
|
One of Us |
I am not linked to this however to make comments like that is unwarranted... I have met the hunter before and he needs to walk around with an oxygen cylinder, all day every day. Not his fault, had a bad spell of malaria and transfered into Black Fever and affected his lungs, lungs cannot process what we breath as oxygen hence the need for oxygen. And as we know, the constant use of "compressed oxygen" changes your body. Go take a look in an ICU ward where people are on oxygen for a prolonged period. Comment on the facts not the person. BOUMA SAFARIS +27827084169 +27125467179 versterm@telkomsa.net | |||
|
One of Us |
I can't see the tiger pic. Has it been removed? | |||
|
One of Us |
I believe it has been. _______________________________________________________ Hunt Report - South Africa 2022 Wade Abadie - Wild Shot Photography Website | Facebook | Instagram | |||
|
One of Us |
| |||
|
one of us |
Craig, Here in a nutshell the things that a Hunting Outfitter needs to do to offer a client a perfectly legal and exportable tiger hunt in the Free State Province of South Africa. (1) Get the written permission from the owner of a tiger breeding farm to "hunt" a tiger. [What the legal requirements to legally breed and offer to have shot tigers are, I have only a very rough idea of and will not discuss that here, other than to say it can be legal.] (2) Offer the client a hunt contract [or in South Africa's Nature Conservation Regulations called a "Remuneration Agreement" and get both copies signed by the hunting outfitter and the client. (3) Let the PH - any permitted PH who does not even have the restriction to guide on Dangerous Game lifted on his permit - and the client to go shoot the tiger. (4) PH fills in his PH register stating on which date, and other details the tiger was shot. Client signs the PH Register. The pink copy is sent to Nature Conservation, blue goes to the taxidermist with the field prepared trophy and white goes with the client. (5) HO sends everything to the taxidermist. (6) Taxidermist applies for an export license from Nature Conservation and attaches the blue copy of the PH register. (7) If Nature Conservation has received the pink copy from the PH an export permit is issued. No further questions or paperwork. Simple! Note that this very simple procedure is because a tiger is an exotic animal in South Africa. If it were a leopard, there is quite a bit more involved. In good hunting and tiger shooting.  Andrew McLaren Andrew McLaren Professional Hunter and Hunting Outfitter since 1974. http://www.mclarensafaris.com The home page to go to for custom planning of ethical and affordable hunting of plains game in South Africa! Enquire about any South African hunting directly from andrew@mclarensafaris.com After a few years of participation on forums, I have learned that: One can cure: Lack of knowledge – by instruction. Lack of skills – by practice. Lack of experience – by time doing it. One cannot cure: Stupidity – nothing helps! Anti hunting sentiments – nothing helps! Put-‘n-Take Outfitters – money rules! My very long ago ancestors needed and loved to eat meat. Today I still hunt! | |||
|
| Powered by Social Strata | Page 1 2 |
 | Please Wait. Your request is being processed... |
|
Visit our on-line store for AR Memorabilia
..