There is a topic going asking about local SA resident hunters and how they can do it so to speak.

One way to (solve the problem) is to have access to a local ranch owner, and if the property is legally game fenced to regulations then the ranch gets an exempt permit allowing hunting year round without restriction.

Here is a pic of my nephew Shawn whom has done some local resident kudu hunting prior to the ranch being aquired for handover to BEE land claim takeover

Cheers, Peter

Hey!! That is not fair!! Why can't we get so many kudu when we go over there? I am in a 5 whitetail county here, how about I trade you my deer tags for the smae number of kudu tags?!!!

Shawn is in the (preferred status) (insider trading category) as my brother Alan, his father, owns the ranch ... OR should I say USED to own the ranch, it is now being aquired by the government for land re-distribution to the so called indiginious majority, so it falls under (transitition status) WHEREBY Alan still owns ALL the animals on the property, he only sells the land to the government.



Some Rhino resting under a tree to get away from the mid-day heat. This pic taken from my brothers house

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BUT my brother Alan still owns ALL the animals on the property, he only sells the land to the government.

So it it "whack 'em and stack 'em" time now?

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So it it "whack 'em and stack 'em" time now?

Hi Desertram

NO we dont actually wack and stack willy nilly. Shawn has taken out some Kudu to make Biltong and provide meat for consumption BUT they were not taken on the main property area which is used ONLY for commercial hunting


There are actually (three separate distinct sectors) to the TOTAL existing ranch property

The (main sector) being some 6000+ acre where the Rhino are located and where my brother
has his house which he lives in, this is the commercial hunting area for overseas hunters and
to a much lesser degree for locals whom can afford the cost.



Then there is (sector two) which is only about 50 acres +- where the hunters lodge is located.
There are some amount of animals on this sector as well BUT (only for private hunting)


Then there is sector three (what we call the open area) this is where my brother lets his family
hunt occasionally for the pot and to make Biltong, and so the kids can keep their hunting skills
honed so to speak. This open sector is where the 5 x kudu were taken by Shawn.

Cheers, Peter

IF any overseas hunters (or friends they know) are planning on being in Limpopo Province SA in the next month or two and you want to take some plains game on the ranch we can possibly help you out and charge you the specie fees for any animals taken, and say a (very basic flat $75/day rate) for hunters and their observer family or friends.

This is an (open offer) remembering that things are (moving quite fast) with the ranch transition to aquisition, so we cant guarantee when that will occur, and when the animal numbers will diminish BUT presently there are STILL a lot of animals to hunt and we dont expect aquisition PRIOR to January !!

WE also dont have control over the weather, rembering that from mid November onwards through March the rains/thunder storms can often occur as well.

ALSO if you want WE will loan you a suitable (rifle and provide ammo as well) to save you the hassles with bringing in arms

Cheers, Peter

What a crock that BEE thing is. take white taxpayer's money and use it to buy their real estate from them to hand over to the lame and lazy who don't pay taxes at all. What the f#)* are they thinking? in two weeks the place will be a pos and no foreign hunter will want any part of it. In other words, take a productive asset worth a lot of money and turn it into a worthless wreck. Now that's a fine way to improve the economy. Bring on the bird flu.

Ahh... Russ,
That's Africa for you! Sucks don't it?

Russ & Blacktailer ..

YES unfortunately that is life and the way the cookie crumbles in some of the old colonial Africa ...

What is really sad is what you say, that the valuable asset which has been nutured and built up over many many years of blood sweat and tears can in effect be taken out from under your feet.

BUT what is (even sadder) is sometimes the so called new owners will in some few months maybe let the asset crumble to a run down (piss shack) and become somewhat derilict.

The ONLY good news or silver lining is my brother does not sit back and cry in his beer about it, he has actually pre-allocated some of the compensation payment and bought two very nice ranch propertities (4000 and 1000 acre) in Zambia which he will build up into viable wildlife conservation ranches.

All over the world (various governements) some to a lesser or greater degree are stealing our taxpayers money in some way or other and spending it as they deem fit.

At the end of the day one has to TRY HARD to turn what is a morally a heartbreaking adverse situation into a POSITIVE new beginning, we have no other choice really, but to make the best of a bad situation and move forward

Cheers, Peter

oh we've had that wealth re-distribution thing down for a long time now in the US. and if you think we own our property just dont pay the taxes on it and see who gets it.

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All over the world (various governements) some to a lesser or greater degree are stealing our taxpayers money in some way or other and spending it as they deem fit

Here's the crux of the matter: in most western democracies, the government spends the money more or less the way the taxpayers want them to, as the majority of the people elect the govt and pay the taxes. In the developing (or whatever the correct word is for sliding backwards) world, the democracy equation breaks down as a small minority pay the taxes, but have no political power to influence how it's spent. In light of this, I scratch my head when the USA rushes around the world imposing democracy US style on third world countries. In effect, they are doing the work of the socialists and communists for them. Using MY tax dollars to boot. Why there isn't a taxpayer revolt in the US over foreign policy is beyond me. It's somewhat acceptable to tax the rich and give to the poor within your own borders, as the money all stays in the family so to speak; but to take our money and spend it trying to convert other countries to our political system is plain hubris (and a terrible waste). Even if successful, all that will happen is what is happening in RSA today. Socialistic redistribution of assets, mixed with a good dose of corruption creating a new breed of wealthy non-contributing political elite. And this is not anti-Republican rhetoric, the Democrats would do it to an even greater degree if they had the controls.

kevin davis,

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how about I trade you my deer tags for the same number of kudu tags?

Kudu tag? What is a kudu tag?

Peter- what will happen to the Rhinos and any other game alive at the time of the transfer? Seems like the Rhinos would be worth alot of money.

John

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Originally posted by 30ott6:
Peter- what will happen to the Rhinos and any other game alive at the time of the transfer? Seems like the Rhinos would be worth alot of money.

John

The Rhino are worth +-35K each. WE will either sell them, hunt them, or transfer them to another ranch of ours, those are our options. Same scenario with the plains game.

WE still have a (few months) to delete the game from the ranch prior to formal takeover.

To a (certain degree) we are still holding the strings to the bow as my family are living on the property and doing with the animals as they see fit, so it is not ALL BAD NEWS. WE anticipate closure by about March April latest 2007!!

Cheers, Peter

Peter: Sorry about the BEE thing. Nice to see Shawn is getting some biltong hunting. He's grown up a bit since I saw him in Zambia.