28 April 2005, 22:45
shakariCongo in the 60s
I've just read "111 days in Stanleyville" by David Reed - and despite all the things I've seen & done in Africa over the years I never really knew how terrible the Simba revolt really was. The inhumanity is simply mind boggling. - If you think the political problems of countries such as Rhodesia & Kenya were bad then you "ain't seen nothin yet"
I'd recommend this book to anyone who is seriously interested in the history of Africa and the African phsyche.
28 April 2005, 22:48
fusinoI am not sure that I have the time to read the book, but I would like to read your further elaboration! Would you offer it? Thanks in advance

28 April 2005, 23:09
SteveSteve,
Was it worse than what the region has just been going through? Genocide, political mutilations, etc.
Just wondering.
-Steve
28 April 2005, 23:14
shakariIt's the true story of what happened in Congo in 1964 when a group of Africans called the Simba's siezed what passed for the major cities.
They help power until Mad Mike Hoare and his mercenaries along with Belgian troops with US air support kicked them out......The torture and murder done by the Simbas was truly appalling ......but the mercenaries weren't angels either.....
29 April 2005, 03:23
Charles Mc Williamsquote:
Originally posted by shakari:
It's the true story of what happened in Congo in 1964 when a group of Africans called the Simba's siezed what passed for the major cities.
They help power until Mad Mike Hoare and his mercenaries along with Belgian troops with US air support kicked them out......The torture and murder done by the Simbas was truly appalling ......but the mercenaries weren't angels either.....
It got very sticky there for a time, my uncle closed down his farms and moved eveyone in to town. I lost my job as the garden gard for a few summers. The baboons were learning about the accuracy of the .275 Rigby . I was too young to understand it all, but knew it was very serious even in Rhodesia. Charlie
29 April 2005, 03:31
Balla BallaSteve
A lot of those mercenaries were from Rhodesia whom went in to rescue the expats and of cource knock some sh.t into the troublemakers as well ...
Yes you are correct, they (the mercenaries) were not Angels BUT then are there any Angels in war, I dont believe so, only killers and we need to understnd that, not like some of the modern day thinkers whom expect the troopies to be pacifists ...
A number of the hostages and other expat people saved were flown to Rhodesia, I remember those times well ... and NO I was not one of the mercenaries, I dont really have the heart for that game of death myself, at least not by choice that is
Peter
29 April 2005, 08:42
NitroXIts events like that, that makes people wonder why anyone wants to live in Africa who has a choice. And the mentality of the 'common black man' and their ability to change eg Rwanda.
29 April 2005, 14:16
Charles Mc Williamsquote:
Originally posted by NitroX:
Its events like that, that makes people wonder why anyone wants to live in Africa who has a choice. And the mentality of the 'common black man' and their ability to change eg Rwanda.
The so called mau-mau uprising wasnt any better in Kenya about 10 years earlier. It started to fall apart around 1953 after a brutal massacre at Lari ,their local support started to decline. The Gikuyu tribe were the keystone to this butchery. In 1954 their central network was destryoed by the gov. I dont remember the chaps name who led the gov. troops, but he later guided Water Buff. hunts in Brazil. Charlie