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When I read Tracks Across Africa Craig had made a comment about not seeing some really big bulls until they replayed the video while making the first Boddington on Buffalo video. I just got Boddington on Buff II and they are doing their PH round table on shooting bulls that are two young. They show that footage from Buff one and now say Andrew Dawson saw them and passed them because they were too young. In the book he said they were monsters that they missed. Did anybody else catch this? I'm not sure what to think about this about face on spread size. | ||
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I'm not sure that what you read in the book and what you saw on two different videos are all related to the same Buffalo. And it's too not two in your usage. BTW, I concur completely about shooting Buff who are too green. And even more so when it comes to shooting Lion who are too young, or shooting two young Lions, or trying to shoot a young Lion. Mike ______________ DSC DRSS (again) SCI Life NRA Life Sables Life Mzuri IPHA "To be a Marine is enough." | |||
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LionHunter, you must be a english teacher.  Please don't check my grammer or spelling.  | |||
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That would be an english teacher not a english teacher. LOL | |||
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Like I said!  | |||
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Ha Ha ha ha. I too was trying to interpelate LionHunter's written word. I concluded he two must have an undergraduate degree in English and then Law school. Please don't check my grammer or spelling also  i'm just a poor hunter trying to keep a couple shells in the bag. | |||
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Let me clarify the time line for you. Craig Boddington filmed Boddington on Buffalo. Craig Boddington then wrote Tracks Across Africa the book where he referred to a Buffalo hunt that was seen in Boddington on Buffalo the first video. He even suggests that you go back and look at the video to see the monsters that they "missed". He made it perfectly clear that if they had saw them they would have shot them. Craig Boddington then made Boddington on Buffalo II and in this DVD there was a round table discussion where they discussed this hunt and showed the footage from Boddington on Buffalo one. They then showed the footage that was in Boddington on Buffalo one and claimed that Dawson saw the Buffalo and chose not to take them because they where too young. So these two buffalo, the same two, went from missed shooters to passed young buffalo. Sorry about the grammar error, reading comprehension is my strength. | |||
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I think the line, "That's showbiz!" best sums up the differences.  Free 500grains | |||
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And if they had seen them, they could have shot them. But since they apparently didn't see them, they couldn't shoot them. Although if I saw them, I wouldn't have shot them. I'm having a pull at your leg GeoffM24. But you're making it too easy. I don't know why there is an apparent discrepancy in the material you cite. I doubt you will ever get an answer to your interrogatory. Mike ______________ DSC DRSS (again) SCI Life NRA Life Sables Life Mzuri IPHA "To be a Marine is enough." | |||
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By the way thats grammar not grammer | |||
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Well it sounds like we've blown the lid off of Boddington's career. He may very well be finished with this sort of horrific discrepancy... I only hope if any of the rest of us ever put together a few thousand articles, a dozen or so books and several hundred hours of video that we aren't scrutinized for every last sentence and frame of film. I thought that was the job of the "anti's". | |||
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I like Craig Boddington. I have met him a number of times and he always has time to talk to the common joe like me. He's a very decent human being, a great writer, an expert on hunting, ballistics and firearms, and, well. . . .he's apparently human just like the rest of us.  | |||
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I also like Craig Boddington, a real gentleman. I had the pleasure of hunting with Craig in 1992, my first season as a hunting apprentice, with Russ Broom in Siabuwa. On that hunt he took leopard, buffalo and some plainsgame. I am, in fact, mentioned in one of his books - my one sentence of fame! Craig has also hunted with my current boss, Roger Whittall, and Roger has only good to say about him. It seems Craig Boddington has not allowed his success to influence his down to earth character, and that is fine. Dave | |||
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I agree, he's an absolute down to earth, no BS gentleman. I've never hunted with him, although have come close a time or two and have bumped into him a few times in unusual places. Last time was at the elephant museum in the KNP. | |||
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Gentlemen I was the videographer on both of the buffalo sequences which are the point of this discussion here. Geoff, they are actually two seperate video clips,shot on different days,of different buffalo. One instance was a late afternoon when we charged into a big herd,which contained a hell of a buff. Unfortunatly, with buffalo running on all sides, I was the only one who was looking at that bull before he turned and was swallowed in the dust. I was waiting for, and expecting a shot which never came. Frankly I was angry until I discovered I alone saw the bull. I played the tape back to craig and Andrew and they nearly cried. But that is buffalo hunting ! The confusion comes into this discussion because of another two buffalo we passed on Boddington On Buffalo 1 . We had two very wide ,but green bossed bulls coming down a hill as a big herd fed around us. We all saw them for what they were,great future trophys, but passed because of age. We could have easily taken one (around 44 inches ) but made the on camera decision to let them grow up for obvious reasons. The two instances in the book and video are easily confused, but now as Paul Harvey says,"now you have the rest of the story' Thanks to all of you who watch, and buy our work because without that,we would never be out there doing what we do. See you at the shows Dave Dave Fulson | |||
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Thank you for clearing that up Dave, can you tell me at approx what point the big Buff shows up? I have watched Boddington on Buff numerous times after reading the book looking but I'm not sure which one you mean. | |||
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That was not my intent and I'm sorry if it came off that way, I'm actually a Boddington fan and have even had the pleasure of meeting the man at Griffin and Howe. | |||
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Wow. One of the main reasons I love this site so much! Thanks for your first hand explanation Dave! | |||
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Like I said im my previous post, "That's show biz! JPK Free 500grains | |||
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Face it, Craig B. could cure cancer, negotiate peace in the mideast, and reduce the national debt and there would still be those who throw stones at him. He's still a human albeit a better-than-average one in many categores. There might be a couple (but just a couple!) people on this forum that can carry his water and/or critique him. And then only on a couple topics. I've met him but a time or two, broke bread with him, met his (lovely!) daughter, and indeed liked him. But because he is who he is I understand that he has a big target on his back. Me thinks he can handle that target quite well. For you nay-sayers I encourage you to get out there and write books that people will buy and get some endorsements that will allow you to get those hunts we want to see! | |||
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Dave, Thank you so much for the clarification. Makes perfect sense. Geoff, Glad to see we're on the same page... supporting the "good guys". I've been EXTREMELY fortunate to get to hunt with Craig here in CA a dozen or two times. As an enourmous fan of his work when I was a kid it was a dream come to true to hunt with him. He's as genuine, ethical and honest as anyone I've ever hunted with (that includes thousands of hunters in 20 years of year 'round guiding). To accomplish what he has in hunting, writing, the military and now TV and video is truly impressive. And to not get carried away by his ego like so many people who have accomplished a fraction of what he has in anyone of those catagories is the true sign of class. I'm not just talking him up because of his fame either; I've guided several famous people I don't care to meet or hunt with again. When some of our own choose him as a target I can only think they either don't know him at all and/or are blinded by the green monster. Kyler | |||
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