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Who says you need a $10,000 rifle, a $400 pair of boots, $150 shirts, and $90 cartridge carriers to hunt elephant?

As this species is no doubt in my future at some point, I therefore introduce to the board "Ginger and Maryann". The sexy pair are "undrilled" Husky Model 146s on FN 98 actions rechambered to 9,3x62 and glass bedded. Sights were filed in for 286 grain bullets and both rifles are identical in every way except stock color.

Our own Mike McCabe did all the work and I am very VERY pleased. Smiler



 
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Nice pair!
 
Posts: 1138 | Location: St. Thomas, VI | Registered: 04 July 2006Reply With Quote
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Nice looking rifles, I really like the Huskys in 9.3 (both the 9.3x57 and 9.3x62).

As for these being elephant blasters, might save the last round for yourself before you become toe jam. Probably not the best choice for pachyderms.


Mike
 
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I don't wish to begin the 9.3 for ele debate... I have known quite a few guys that have used rifles like yours for that purpose.

I love those rifles... dearly... and for a occasional ele just fine... I wouldn't choose one for day after day ele slaughter.

Aaron
 
Posts: 581 | Location: Cheney, KS or Africa Somewhere | Registered: 07 January 2005Reply With Quote
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You may not need $10,000 double, a $250 culling belt, $75 shirts...

The most important piece of good elephant hunting kit is your underwear so you don't chaf.

I recommend these...



Mike

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What I have learned on AR, since 2001:
1. The proper answer to: Where is the best place in town to get a steak dinner? is…You should go to Mel's Diner and get the fried chicken.
2. Big game animals can tell the difference between .015 of an inch in diameter, 15 grains of bullet weight, and 150 fps.
3. There is a difference in the performance of two identical projectiles launched at the same velocity if they came from different cartridges.
4. While a double rifle is the perfect DGR, every 375HH bolt gun needs to be modified to carry at least 5 down.
5. While a floor plate and detachable box magazine both use a mechanical latch, only the floor plate latch is reliable. Disregard the fact that every modern military rifle uses a detachable box magazine.
6. The Remington 700 is unreliable regardless of the fact it is the basis of the USMC M40 sniper rifle for 40+ years with no changes to the receiver or extractor and is the choice of more military and law enforcement sniper units than any other rifle.
7. PF actions are not suitable for a DGR and it is irrelevant that the M1, M14, M16, & AK47 which were designed for hunting men that can shoot back are all PF actions.
8. 95 deg F in Africa is different than 95 deg F in TX or CA and that is why you must worry about ammunition temperature in Africa (even though most safaris take place in winter) but not in TX or in CA.
9. The size of a ding in a gun's finish doesn't matter, what matters is whether it’s a safe ding or not.
10. 1 in a row is a trend, 2 in a row is statistically significant, and 3 in a row is an irrefutable fact.
11. Never buy a WSM or RCM cartridge for a safari rifle or your go to rifle in the USA because if they lose your ammo you can't find replacement ammo but don't worry 280 Rem, 338-06, 35 Whelen, and all Weatherby cartridges abound in Africa and back country stores.
12. A well hit animal can run 75 yds. in the open and suddenly drop with no initial blood trail, but the one I shot from 200 yds. away that ran 10 yds. and disappeared into a thicket and was not found was lost because the bullet penciled thru. I am 100% certain of this even though I have no physical evidence.
13. A 300 Win Mag is a 500 yard elk cartridge but a 308 Win is not a 300 yard elk cartridge even though the same bullet is travelling at the same velocity at those respective distances.
 
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Originally posted by Mike_Dettorre:
You may not need $10,000 double, a $250 culling belt, $75 shirts...

The most important piece of good elephant hunting kit is your underwear so you don't chaf.

I recommend these...


Is it true that you should also bring an extra pair in case of a charge?
 
Posts: 159 | Location: Bellevue, NE, USA | Registered: 05 December 2009Reply With Quote
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Yes, but the best defense against a charge is the Buddy system.

You slit your buddy's achilles tendon with your $300 custom skinning knife (which you will never use to a skin an animal) and then run. This allows the ele to stomp your buddy first while you run.


Mike

Never under estimate the internet community's ability to reply to your post with their personal rant about their tangentially related, single occurrence issue.



What I have learned on AR, since 2001:
1. The proper answer to: Where is the best place in town to get a steak dinner? is…You should go to Mel's Diner and get the fried chicken.
2. Big game animals can tell the difference between .015 of an inch in diameter, 15 grains of bullet weight, and 150 fps.
3. There is a difference in the performance of two identical projectiles launched at the same velocity if they came from different cartridges.
4. While a double rifle is the perfect DGR, every 375HH bolt gun needs to be modified to carry at least 5 down.
5. While a floor plate and detachable box magazine both use a mechanical latch, only the floor plate latch is reliable. Disregard the fact that every modern military rifle uses a detachable box magazine.
6. The Remington 700 is unreliable regardless of the fact it is the basis of the USMC M40 sniper rifle for 40+ years with no changes to the receiver or extractor and is the choice of more military and law enforcement sniper units than any other rifle.
7. PF actions are not suitable for a DGR and it is irrelevant that the M1, M14, M16, & AK47 which were designed for hunting men that can shoot back are all PF actions.
8. 95 deg F in Africa is different than 95 deg F in TX or CA and that is why you must worry about ammunition temperature in Africa (even though most safaris take place in winter) but not in TX or in CA.
9. The size of a ding in a gun's finish doesn't matter, what matters is whether it’s a safe ding or not.
10. 1 in a row is a trend, 2 in a row is statistically significant, and 3 in a row is an irrefutable fact.
11. Never buy a WSM or RCM cartridge for a safari rifle or your go to rifle in the USA because if they lose your ammo you can't find replacement ammo but don't worry 280 Rem, 338-06, 35 Whelen, and all Weatherby cartridges abound in Africa and back country stores.
12. A well hit animal can run 75 yds. in the open and suddenly drop with no initial blood trail, but the one I shot from 200 yds. away that ran 10 yds. and disappeared into a thicket and was not found was lost because the bullet penciled thru. I am 100% certain of this even though I have no physical evidence.
13. A 300 Win Mag is a 500 yard elk cartridge but a 308 Win is not a 300 yard elk cartridge even though the same bullet is travelling at the same velocity at those respective distances.
 
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You slit your buddy's achilles tendon with your $300 custom skinning knife (which you will never use to a skin an animal) and then run. This allow the ele to stomp your buddy first while you run.



It really pisses me off when guys give away trade secrets.


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"You slit your buddy's achilles tendon with your $300 custom skinning knife (which you will never use to a skin an animal) and then run."

Did you forget the part about disarming him at the same time?
 
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You slit your buddy's achilles tendon with your $300 custom skinning knife (which you will never use to a skin an animal) and then run. This allow the ele to stomp your buddy first while you run.



It really pisses me off when guys give away trade secrets.[/quote
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Posts: 13461 | Location: faribault mn | Registered: 16 November 2004Reply With Quote
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Odie,

Not necessary. A slit achilles tendon is very painful. He will not be able to shoot you in the back.


Mike

Never under estimate the internet community's ability to reply to your post with their personal rant about their tangentially related, single occurrence issue.



What I have learned on AR, since 2001:
1. The proper answer to: Where is the best place in town to get a steak dinner? is…You should go to Mel's Diner and get the fried chicken.
2. Big game animals can tell the difference between .015 of an inch in diameter, 15 grains of bullet weight, and 150 fps.
3. There is a difference in the performance of two identical projectiles launched at the same velocity if they came from different cartridges.
4. While a double rifle is the perfect DGR, every 375HH bolt gun needs to be modified to carry at least 5 down.
5. While a floor plate and detachable box magazine both use a mechanical latch, only the floor plate latch is reliable. Disregard the fact that every modern military rifle uses a detachable box magazine.
6. The Remington 700 is unreliable regardless of the fact it is the basis of the USMC M40 sniper rifle for 40+ years with no changes to the receiver or extractor and is the choice of more military and law enforcement sniper units than any other rifle.
7. PF actions are not suitable for a DGR and it is irrelevant that the M1, M14, M16, & AK47 which were designed for hunting men that can shoot back are all PF actions.
8. 95 deg F in Africa is different than 95 deg F in TX or CA and that is why you must worry about ammunition temperature in Africa (even though most safaris take place in winter) but not in TX or in CA.
9. The size of a ding in a gun's finish doesn't matter, what matters is whether it’s a safe ding or not.
10. 1 in a row is a trend, 2 in a row is statistically significant, and 3 in a row is an irrefutable fact.
11. Never buy a WSM or RCM cartridge for a safari rifle or your go to rifle in the USA because if they lose your ammo you can't find replacement ammo but don't worry 280 Rem, 338-06, 35 Whelen, and all Weatherby cartridges abound in Africa and back country stores.
12. A well hit animal can run 75 yds. in the open and suddenly drop with no initial blood trail, but the one I shot from 200 yds. away that ran 10 yds. and disappeared into a thicket and was not found was lost because the bullet penciled thru. I am 100% certain of this even though I have no physical evidence.
13. A 300 Win Mag is a 500 yard elk cartridge but a 308 Win is not a 300 yard elk cartridge even though the same bullet is travelling at the same velocity at those respective distances.
 
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brown boxers are better then they don't show the stains when you screw up a shoot at close range or a buffalo surprises you out of know where shocker
 
Posts: 3818 | Location: kenya, tanzania,RSA,Uganda or Ethophia depending on day of the week | Registered: 27 May 2009Reply With Quote
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Originally posted by tendrams:
Who says you need a $10,000 rifle, a $400 pair of boots, $150 shirts, and $90 cartridge carriers to hunt elephant?


I killed my elephant with a $350 FN(Sako) 375 while wearing low top Converse All-Stars(thanks LV Eric) and a $5 green tee-shirt.

BTW, beautiful rifles. But just as in real life, there are more differences than just color between Ginger and Maryann. Your Maryann has that classic understated look and great layout. I would take her over Ginger.


Jason

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Hunting in Africa is an adventure. The number of variables involved preclude the possibility of a perfect hunt. Some problems will arise. How you decide to handle them will determine how much you enjoy your hunt.

Just tell yourself, "it's all part of the adventure." Remember, if Robert Ruark had gotten upset every time problems with Harry
Selby's flat bed truck delayed the safari, Horn of the Hunter would have read like an indictment of Selby. But Ruark rolled with the punches, poured some gin, and enjoyed the adventure.

-Jason Brown
 
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Nice looking guns and the 62 was indeed a blaster of elephant in East Africa during the 50's and 60's.


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I killed my elephant with a $350 FN(Sako) 375 while wearing low top Converse All-Stars(thanks LV Eric) and a $5 green tee-shirt.

BTW, beautiful rifles. But just as in real life, there are more differences than just color between Ginger and Maryann. Your Maryann has that classic understated look and great layout. I would take her over Ginger.



Thanks for the compliment and you are a man after my own heart using Chuck Taylors as hunting shoes. I also agree that Maryann is the choice rifle in the pair.

Big Grin
 
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I took Ginger's twin to RSA last year. We had a grand time but didn't kill any elephants.

The Husky's are great rifles for the price.
Big Grin
 
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just as long as you don't take both of them to Africa on the same trip. Some countries do not allow two rifles of the same caliber to be brought in.

Rich
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Do you mind if I ask what it cost to get them converted? I have a a Husky on a 98 action also and want to do the same thing. I am in San Antonio Texas. Does anyone know who around here will do this kind of work?
 
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The old huskvarna's would send a 320grn FMJ right through the head of an Ele, but its the other Elephant that might be a problem.
 
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You slit your buddy's achilles tendon with your $300 custom skinning knife (which you will never use to a skin an animal) and then run. This allow the ele to stomp your buddy first while you run.



It really pisses me off when guys give away trade secrets.

I really love AR. I obtain such excellent information on how to vet potential hunting buddies. Maybe I should also just carry an Uzzi SMG, just in case???


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nice buff OZ
 
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