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I returned last evening from helping with some culling and a lion hunt. If there truly is too much of a good thing, such as shooting at animals, I believe I may have found it on the culling adventures.Following is a list of animals I killed from hide,truck and a foot on three seperate ranches shooting a combination of three rifles, Ruger 77 .223, Remington 700 Classic 338WM, Mauser 8x68. 20 implala 11 Burchels zebra 12 gemsbok 6 black wildebeast 6 common eland 2 bull giraffe 1 sub adult (pink nose/thin mane) male lion Head shots were requested on all but the lion and one eland that was suffering a wound from a prior try at him.The lion dropped at the shot from a 250 gr .338WM thru the shoulders I finshed him with another at the base of the ear. The eland bull had been wounded by an archer the week prior to my arrival and I was told to take any killing shot I was presented with. What started out as a jaunty time soon turned to a sour taste from all the killing in such short time frame. I doubt I'd recommend an extended cull hunt to anyone in the near future. | ||
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It does sound like fun, but i can imagine that it was a little much for a short time frame. Tom Addleman tom@dirtnapgear.com | |||
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Well the bow hunter should be pleased that his eland was recovered. The lion...was it a "trophy" hunt, or a problem lion? Namibia? | |||
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Yeah! I'm not sure that would be my cup of tea. MARK H. YOUNG MARK'S EXCLUSIVE ADVENTURES 7094 Oakleigh Dr. Las Vegas, NV 89110 Office 702-848-1693 Cell, Whats App, Signal 307-250-1156 PREFERRED E-mail markttc@msn.com Website: myexclusiveadventures.com Skype: markhyhunter Check us out on https://www.facebook.com/pages...ures/627027353990716 | |||
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Any pictures? Where did you hunt and who was the Outfitter/PH? | |||
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I have little or no interest in dragging this thread out when it comes to the lion part so I will write this out one time an let the "canned"/ anti "canned" banter go on without me. I travel often to Namibia to hunt having made several friends in that beautiful country. On my last visit I mentioned to one of my friends whom with his family own three different cattle ranches spread out across north central Namibia, I'd like to be there during the post hunting season culling to get in some rifle time. That is where I killed all the plains game. My friend went out of his way to arrange a lion hunt in RSA for me as a birthday gift with another friend (possibly another family member) of his. It was not the lion hunt I had often dreamed of though it wasn't the 5 acre killing pen often described here on AR. Suffice to say I did kill a thinly maned giner male on day two that had a poorly healed right rear leg...apparently the injury was an old broken leg that did not heal straight leaving the lion with a sever limp though he was quite capable of running... bear in mind this was a free lion the owner wanted off the place. We came upon the male with two females in the afternoon of day two sleeping in the shade. When our scent drifted to them they immediately stood and one female slinked off. The other mature female and the male stood there a few seconds and started off at a slow walk. When the male paused to look at us from 80 yds I slapped him with my 338WM thru the shoulders then again at the butt of the ear as he laid there biting a front paw. That's how it happened and all I have to relate on it. Should the usual AR "canned" lion crowd wish to start bashing have at it. I'll not dignify them with rebuttal. 2th Doc | |||
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I can imagine your adventure turned into sad work all too quickly. Says good things about you. Hope future hunts are more traditional and more satisfying. Thanks for the post. Mike -------------- DRSS, Womper's Club, NRA Life Member/Charter Member NRA Golden Eagles ... Knifemaker, http://www.mstarling.com | |||
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That is kind of rough. I suppose if you were used to it, like a rancher or farmer culling his herds of animals, it would be one thing. But I can imagine even myself feeling like you did after the 3rd or 4th animal, since it would seem like "quantity vs. quality." The lion . . . I dunno . . . I think seeing him biting at his paw after the first shot would have made me feel like crap and I would have had a hard time finishing him off, but then again I have a soft spot for cats. _____________________________________________________________________________________________________ Far better is it to dare mighty things, to win glorius triumphs, even though checkered by failure... than to rank with those poor spirits who neither enjoy nor suffer much, because they live in a gray twilight that knows not victory nor defeat. - Theodore Roosevelt | |||
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Culling is definitely tough work for a lot of reasons and is not for everyone, me included. Mike Wilderness is my cathedral, and hunting is my prayer. | |||
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Life is strange, and never fair. Some guys have more fun than they can stand, brag about, then whine about it. | |||
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Your comments make perfect sense. One doesn't go to a fine restaurant, order a gourmet meal, pack it in a Styrofoam box, then take it out to your car in the parking lot, and shovel it into your mouth as quickly as you can. It may be eating, but it's certainly not dining. It may be shooting, but it's certainly not hunting. analog_peninsula ----------------------- It takes character to withstand the rigors of indolence. | |||
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I'll echo mstarling's comment: Your posting and attitude about this says a lot of good things about you as a person! In good hunting. Andrew McLaren Andrew McLaren Professional Hunter and Hunting Outfitter since 1974. http://www.mclarensafaris.com The home page to go to for custom planning of ethical and affordable hunting of plains game in South Africa! Enquire about any South African hunting directly from andrew@mclarensafaris.com After a few years of participation on forums, I have learned that: One can cure: Lack of knowledge – by instruction. Lack of skills – by practice. Lack of experience – by time doing it. One cannot cure: Stupidity – nothing helps! Anti hunting sentiments – nothing helps! Put-‘n-Take Outfitters – money rules! My very long ago ancestors needed and loved to eat meat. Today I still hunt! | |||
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Don't feel bad about this at all. You did not go to hunt a lion. On one of my South African hunts I was asked if I minded shooting some common bulls, as they have become feral. I did not mind in the least, but I never saw any. | |||
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This indeed says a lot about you as a person. Many non hunters out there cannot get past the killing of an animal when viewing our activities. They seem to think that, that is the object of the exercise. However your emotions sum up what a real sportsman feels about his activities and where the priorities lie therein. FWIW, I probably whould have done the same as you on the Lion so aas not to offend my freind. your honesty says a lot, & not everyone would have mentioned the last animal on the list... Rgds, FB | |||
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My introduction to African hunting was a Giraffe caught in a snare. I was asked by the PH to shoot it as we could not disentangle it. I did not in the least mind performing this task. It was not hunting but WAS necessary. It did teach me one thing. How tough they actually are as it did not die quickly with a point blank shot. SCI Life Member NRA Patron Life Member DRSS | |||
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I'd be pleased to shoot as many game animals as you did. After all, it's not like they were chained to the floor by a ring in their nose. Some of us have a stronger constitution. | |||
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Well said culling is different than hunting. No shame in it NRA LIFE MEMBER DU DIAMOND SPONSOR IN PERPETUITY DALLAS SAFARI CLUB LIFE MEMBER SCI FOUNDATION MEMBER | |||
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Also, well said!!!  | |||
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As others said, it only says good things about you.Culling is necessary sometimes but I guess there is little pleasure to take in killing a great volume of animals in a short span. Best- Locksley,R "Early in the morning, at break of day, in all the freshness and dawn of one's strength, to read a book - I call that vicious!"- Friedrich Nietzsche | |||
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