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Gents, Just returned from 2 weeks in Zambia. My wife's first PG hunt, she did awesome and I am very proud of her. While I was there a Cattle/Pig/Game Farmer called one of the guys I was with and asked if we were interested in doing "a little culling". I immediately remembered the thread a couple months ago that resulted in some name calling and such. This trip was my wife's not mine, so all I had brought to shoot was a .22 hornet, a culling tool with very few equals. This farmer wanted EVERYTHING gone. He had tired of fence patrols and poachers and decided to get rid of it all. We started shooting at around dusk from the truck with sandbags and lights, head shots only as the game was to be sold. At one point I shot three kudu's in 10 seconds all headshots, a cow, a young male and a young female. Bottom line is......this is NOT hunting. A good experience that all of us should have, but not a hunt. When the sun arose we had killed about 35 animals mostly reedbuck and kudu. It made me really concentrate on my shot, trigger squeeze and follow through. even with that I did wound two animals we could not recover. I ran into Use Enough Gun and Bwana in the Atlanta airport, we were on the same flight over. Gentlemen both. Regards, Steve Formerly "Nganga" | ||
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No arguments here, sounds like good fun to me.   | |||
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I agree. Hunting: Exercising dominion over creation at 2800 fps. | |||
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Culling can always be had for a cheaper price in amongst true ethical hunting. Good to see you useing the Hornet. (The only thing better is a .218Bee  ) | |||
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It has to be done, so why not us? | |||
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I totally agree. A couple of years ago I had the same opportunity in the RSA. A game ranch had been sold back to the government for settlement. The government paid for the land but not the game so the lawyer who sold the ranch sold the game to my PH's company for the meat/biltong trade. A day of culling is definitely not hunting... it is shooting only and the two do not remotely resemble one another. On the plains of hesitation lie the bleached bones of ten thousand, who on the dawn of victory lay down their weary heads resting, and there resting, died. If you can talk with crowds and keep your virtue, Or walk with Kings - nor lose the common touch... Yours is the Earth and everything that's in it, And - which is more - you'll be a Man, my son! - Rudyard Kipling Life grows grim without senseless indulgence. | |||
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I might add, the Farmer had done two prior helicopter game captures, so subsequently there was not a huge amount of stuff left. Steve Formerly "Nganga" | |||
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Sounds to me like you did what was gonna be done anyway, and hopefully had some fun too? I could sure think of alot worse ways to spend an evening! | |||
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The only time I was bothered was a female bushbuck I whacked that had a youngster, I had to put the emotion of it somewhere else and just perform the task we had agreed to. But lots of shooting with some good fun guys. Steve Formerly "Nganga" | |||
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The only culling I've done was on cow elephants. It is just as exciting, dangerous, and crazy as shooting trophy animals. Imagine shooting every round on your culling belt in five minutes with your barrel so hot you couldn't touch it for twenty minutes and all with a .375. Still get excited just thinking about it. | |||
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Good to hear you're back Steve. I could see how having to shoot females with young would go against everything a hunter thinks of, but then if I was offered the chance, I hope I would try it (once). So are you going to convince your wife to do a report? | |||
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i did it once. never again. i m afraid that i just don't enjoy killing for killings sake. if i cull a sick or wounded animal that's one thing, but the other is just not for me. if you enjoy it, good for you, because on occasion the job needs to be done. | |||
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I'm the same, I love hunting but don't enjoy killing for killing sake. That's why I don't do culls. | |||
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Culling is something that I've looked into a lot recently and many UK hunters don't have the same drive to hunt trophies as many take the view that they can't display them or justify the cost of shipping them etc. The result is that they like to do what is usually called cull hunts. We do ths in the same manner of the traditional hunting but instead of shooting big males we take Ewe's or immature/sub quality rams. these are all animals that would ordinarily cost the land owner to either cull off the buckie or helicopter game capture. It is pretty much all I do unless after a real good specemini of something while I'm there, so I just take what turns up and have fun at it. All the hunting is done on foot and makes for good meat and more hunting for your money. In this instance culling can be hunting. The other way of getting round and shooting off the truck is also done and has a different slant. We simply offer it to guys that want trigger time and who might want to do a job that is going to get done anyway. It's horses for courses but culling in all its forms can be a good experience. Incidentally as food for thought. All the guys that travel to Scotland where the stag they shoot is selected by the ghillie and is not necessarily the biggest in the herd, are participating in a cull hunt. There the justification for the hunt is that it is about the experience not the trophy so I think that should follow elsewhere in the world too. JM2CW Rgds, K | |||
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I've shot all the Trophys I have room for and then some. I would like to try a Cull/Management Hunt, but am unable to find one? | |||
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FB, I think there might be a bit of language difference creeping in here. The culling of selected animals to improve the herd via traditional spot and stalk is fairly different in my mind to a biltong cull where the animals are herded towards a line of shooters who try to kill every animal. Different style, different objective, same word. FWIW, I'd pay for the former, but not the latter though both are necessary and interesting in their own way. Dean ...I say that hunters go into Paradise when they die, and live in this world more joyfully than any other men. -Edward, Duke of York | |||
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Hi Steve: It was a pleasure for Bwanna and me to meet you and your family in Atlanta.  What did your lovely wife finally end up taking on her first safari? | |||
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Steve: How many head of game fell to the Red Rider? Will J. Parks, III | |||
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UEG, First congrats on the Boomer Sable bull you shot!!!. They are truly the trophy of a hunting lifetime. My wife shot in order, Lichtenstein Hartebeest, one shot. DRT 17 inch Bushbuck, one shot. DRT. Zebra, one shot, ran 20 yards. 57 inch Kudu, one shot, ran 50 yards Crayshaws Defassa Waterbuck......hmmmmmmm kinda ugly. Common Reedbuck (got our monies worth on bullets on this one)  She shot extremely well, better than I do, no visible nerves. She made me very proud. I am lucky to live in AZ where we can travel short distances to shot about anywhere, she practiced a bunch and it showed. I had Alister Norton bring me from Reno some nice shooting sticks (African Sporting Creations) so she was practiced on them as well. Will, as close as some of the culling work was, a BB gun would have worked at times. I do believe I am screwed Good thing a new trophy room is under construction.Steve Formerly "Nganga" | |||
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Wow! Congratulations to the Huntress! I just read an article claiming that women are better shooters than men! Sounds like the new trophy room will be filled with some great trophies and memories! | |||
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Alister Norton is a sly devil as well, Whilst I'm riding in the back of the cruiser he's busy talking her into a damn lion.  Formerly "Nganga" | |||
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