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Well I just finished my new FN action 416 Rem. and took some photographs, all it needs now is bluing and some minor touch up... The Turkish walnut blank, was as hard as marble, I liked the blank, even though it was a tad plain for some, it was perfectly laid out and like I said hard as woodpecker lips as Belk would say, and checkered beatifully... Id post a picture but don't have the capability or desire to learn, ain't that a bitch!! guess its age, tired of learning, compromising, and doing anything that I don't want to!   Ray Atkinson Atkinson Hunting Adventures 10 Ward Lane, Filer, Idaho, 83328 208-731-4120 rayatkinsonhunting@gmail.com | ||
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Oh yeah, two more to go, my 10.75 x 68 is simi done, I am shooting it in an old FN Sako stock and it needs to be stocked and blued... My 404 is at Dennis Olsons for metal work and I have a fantastic piece of Turkish walnut from Chiron for it, it came up on auction and I snapped it up on buy now...I don't think those turks actually auction any thing off unless it beats the buy now price, in fact I am sure of it... Funny how Chirons price the wood, some of the crap they price at $1500 because its wiggly and marble cake with a grain that would surly split on a big bore, and then sell a wonderful blank and well colored blank for $450..beats me who is grading their wood, but he ought to be in the furniture business, not gun stocks...but hey whos complaining, this is a good thing.  Ray Atkinson Atkinson Hunting Adventures 10 Ward Lane, Filer, Idaho, 83328 208-731-4120 rayatkinsonhunting@gmail.com | |||
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Come on Ray, you cant tell us all that and then not post pictures, thats just not cricket!!! | |||
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Ray, Seek help! You truely have an addiction.  Rich Elliott Rich Elliott Ethiopian Rift Valley Safaris | |||
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Ray, Email me the pictures...I'll post them for you Mike Legistine actu quod scripsi? Never under estimate the internet community's ability to reply to your post with their personal rant about their tangentially related, single occurrence issue.  What I have learned on AR, since 2001: 1. The proper answer to: Where is the best place in town to get a steak dinner? is…You should go to Mel's Diner and get the fried chicken. 2. Big game animals can tell the difference between .015 of an inch in diameter, 15 grains of bullet weight, and 150 fps. 3. There is a difference in the performance of two identical projectiles launched at the same velocity if they came from different cartridges. 4. While a double rifle is the perfect DGR, every 375HH bolt gun needs to be modified to carry at least 5 down. 5. While a floor plate and detachable box magazine both use a mechanical latch, only the floor plate latch is reliable. Disregard the fact that every modern military rifle uses a detachable box magazine. 6. The Remington 700 is unreliable regardless of the fact it is the basis of the USMC M40 sniper rifle for 40+ years with no changes to the receiver or extractor and is the choice of more military and law enforcement sniper units than any other rifle. 7. PF actions are not suitable for a DGR and it is irrelevant that the M1, M14, M16, & AK47 which were designed for hunting men that can shoot back are all PF actions. 8. 95 deg F in Africa is different than 95 deg F in TX or CA and that is why you must worry about ammunition temperature in Africa (even though most safaris take place in winter) but not in TX or in CA. 9. The size of a ding in a gun's finish doesn't matter, what matters is whether it’s a safe ding or not. 10. 1 in a row is a trend, 2 in a row is statistically significant, and 3 in a row is an irrefutable fact. 11. Never buy a WSM or RCM cartridge for a safari rifle or your go to rifle in the USA because if they lose your ammo you can't find replacement ammo but don't worry 280 Rem, 338-06, 35 Whelen, and all Weatherby cartridges abound in Africa and back country stores. 12. A well hit animal can run 75 yds. in the open and suddenly drop with no initial blood trail, but the one I shot from 200 yds. away that ran 10 yds. and disappeared into a thicket and was not found was lost because the bullet penciled thru. I am 100% certain of this even though I have no physical evidence. 13. A 300 Win Mag is a 500 yard elk cartridge but a 308 Win is not a 300 yard elk cartridge even though the same bullet is travelling at the same velocity at those respective distances. | |||
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Ray, I will make you one hell of an offer just to prove what a super guy I am. Send me the rifle, and I will take it to Tanzania in July and hunt with it for you !!!!! It will save you all that hassle of packing, getting tickets, visas etc etc. I wouldn't make this offer to just anyone. Why don't you go ahead and send it now so I can work up a good load for it? I'm quite sure that JudgeG, and Pierr'e, and all of the camp staff would enjoy shooting it also. I'll even post pictures of it for you. I know how !!!! What say?? | |||
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Email them to me Ray. I'll post them for ya! Rusty We Band of Brothers! DRSS, NRA & SCI Life Member "I am rejoiced at my fate. Do not be uneasy about me, for I am with my friends." ----- David Crockett in his last letter (to his children), January 9th, 1836 "I will never forsake Texas and her cause. I am her son." ----- Jose Antonio Navarro, from Mexican Prison in 1841 "for I have sworn upon the altar of god eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man." Thomas Jefferson Declaration of Arbroath April 6, 1320-“. . .It is not for glory, nor riches, nor honours that we are fighting, but for freedom - for that alone, which no honest man gives up but with life itself.” | |||
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Hmmmm a 416 remington. Interesting cartridge for someone with such vast safari experience. nAlmost sounds like a logical versatile choice. | |||
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Ray, I sure hope you have that 10.75x68 done by June 15th or so. My brother and I will be traveling through ID and I will stop by to pick up my Royalty Check.  If it is the right time of day we will give you a call. We can run by the Bank and then do lunch.  DOUBLE RIFLE SHOOTERS SOCIETY | |||
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NE 450, I'm shooting the 10.75 now..its in the white and in a Sako Mauser stock with a receiver sight, It won't get stocke for until winter probably...the 416 will be finished by then. Mike, Photo on the way Rusty thanks but Mike beat you to the punch.  Ray Atkinson Atkinson Hunting Adventures 10 Ward Lane, Filer, Idaho, 83328 208-731-4120 rayatkinsonhunting@gmail.com | |||
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Ray's rifle... looks sweet...  Mike Legistine actu quod scripsi? Never under estimate the internet community's ability to reply to your post with their personal rant about their tangentially related, single occurrence issue. What I have learned on AR, since 2001: 1. The proper answer to: Where is the best place in town to get a steak dinner? is…You should go to Mel's Diner and get the fried chicken. 2. Big game animals can tell the difference between .015 of an inch in diameter, 15 grains of bullet weight, and 150 fps. 3. There is a difference in the performance of two identical projectiles launched at the same velocity if they came from different cartridges. 4. While a double rifle is the perfect DGR, every 375HH bolt gun needs to be modified to carry at least 5 down. 5. While a floor plate and detachable box magazine both use a mechanical latch, only the floor plate latch is reliable. Disregard the fact that every modern military rifle uses a detachable box magazine. 6. The Remington 700 is unreliable regardless of the fact it is the basis of the USMC M40 sniper rifle for 40+ years with no changes to the receiver or extractor and is the choice of more military and law enforcement sniper units than any other rifle. 7. PF actions are not suitable for a DGR and it is irrelevant that the M1, M14, M16, & AK47 which were designed for hunting men that can shoot back are all PF actions. 8. 95 deg F in Africa is different than 95 deg F in TX or CA and that is why you must worry about ammunition temperature in Africa (even though most safaris take place in winter) but not in TX or in CA. 9. The size of a ding in a gun's finish doesn't matter, what matters is whether it’s a safe ding or not. 10. 1 in a row is a trend, 2 in a row is statistically significant, and 3 in a row is an irrefutable fact. 11. Never buy a WSM or RCM cartridge for a safari rifle or your go to rifle in the USA because if they lose your ammo you can't find replacement ammo but don't worry 280 Rem, 338-06, 35 Whelen, and all Weatherby cartridges abound in Africa and back country stores. 12. A well hit animal can run 75 yds. in the open and suddenly drop with no initial blood trail, but the one I shot from 200 yds. away that ran 10 yds. and disappeared into a thicket and was not found was lost because the bullet penciled thru. I am 100% certain of this even though I have no physical evidence. 13. A 300 Win Mag is a 500 yard elk cartridge but a 308 Win is not a 300 yard elk cartridge even though the same bullet is travelling at the same velocity at those respective distances. | |||
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Ray's rifle is really beautiful. The blanks Chiron puts on its website (http://www.hunterbid.com) usually have a reserve price set pretty close to their "buy it now" price. Occasionally they sell some on ebay w/o reserves. I bought 2 Turkish blanks from them off ebay for $42 each, not fancy but very dense straight grain with some contrast. I traded one to Jeffeosso for a barrel and he turned it on his new home-built pantograph for his 550 Express:  NRA Life Member, Band of Bubbas Charter Member, PGCA, DRSS. Shoot & hunt with vintage classics. | |||
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Ray, Nice rifle! Could you give us the details on it: who's barrel, sights, stock work, etc? | |||
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Ray, Do you have a gimped up or short left arm? That is an UGLY forend.  | |||
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MHC TX, A comm. FN action, Lothar Walther barrel, Blackburn drop box and trigger, This stick is not Chiron, its a plain European, not Turkish, blank that Bill Dowtin gave me, it is the hardest piece of wood I have ever worked with, nice stuff from Russia...the rear sights are Wisners screw gizzie V knockoffs, that used to be on pre war M-70 Super grades..barrel band swivel, rear swivel, front sight, from NECG and grip cap is a two screw Fisher...Solid black recoil pad is one of those Sorbothane types by somebody...just one I had in the shop..it sure works well..I think I got it from Galazans??? Most of the barrel work and feed work was done by Dennis Olson, The stock was done by me.. Rip, Yes, I had poltigides menech when I was but a child of 5 and my left arm is some 18 inches shorter than my right, It is a desease that began in England in about the 1920s, and you see these short forearms from time to time on English rifles, but I have to tell you it hurts when some mean natured person such as yourself brings it to my attention, thus the short forend.. I will, of course, report this to the E.U.O.S.F.F. assn. and they will be contacting you accordingly, suggest you consult your lawyer...BTW that is the English Union of Short Forend folks... So watch yer mouth! Ray Atkinson Atkinson Hunting Adventures 10 Ward Lane, Filer, Idaho, 83328 208-731-4120 rayatkinsonhunting@gmail.com | |||
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I like the contrast between the alternating stainless and blue along the action and barrel. Beautiful Ray! --->Happiness is nothing but health and a poor memory<---Albert Schweitzer --->All I ever wanted was to be somebody; I guess I should have been more specific<---Lily Tomlin | |||
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For clarification the Chiron blank of turkish walnut is for my .404 Jefferys...It is an absolutly beatiful blank with lot of contrasting smokey dark stripes that run from toe to forend perfectly with a slightly lighter matrix, but its a dark dark piece of wood...Its gonna be a knockout...I have another piece of turkish, like the 416 its rather plain, but real nice wood.... I am not really into color for the most part, I like a subdued stock that balances and doesn't grab the eye and take away from the workmanship,  and they cost a lot less!!This old kid tends to drag them about the bush a bit more than most, so I tend toward what is efficient, but I still like a nice gun...  I do buy a purty piece now and then but its not for me, it goes on the auction block... Ray Atkinson Atkinson Hunting Adventures 10 Ward Lane, Filer, Idaho, 83328 208-731-4120 rayatkinsonhunting@gmail.com | |||
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So why did you get rid of your Butch Searcey 416Rem? Just curious. | |||
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I really like your new rifle. I am waiting for the third and fourth installments on my African battery. I have the 404 Jeffery and the 375 H&H and will have my 458 Lott in a couple of months. The 300 H&H will is supposed to be here by Christmas. Fun stuff !! I love the feel of walnut in the morning! square shooter | |||
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Ray, it is really beuatiful. I am glad to see that somebody likes those replica sights that Jim does, his are better than the original so we should probably call them improved rather than replica. I have an original I donated to the project for my stepfather's rifle and got a replacement base for it from Jim. Which pattern did you use for the stock? Do you have patterns for some of these gorgeous old english styles or somebody that can duplicate for you without damaging the original? Thanks for sharing. Red | |||
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I agree!  NRA Life Member, Band of Bubbas Charter Member, PGCA, DRSS. Shoot & hunt with vintage classics. | |||
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Ray Can't tell if it is set up for scope or not...Are you keeping it traditional with just the express sites? Great looking working rifle. Mike | |||
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The lines are simply perfect. Beautiful rifle.By the way, the knife in the trigger guard looks Finnish, with the horse´s head.  Could this be the case? Boha | |||
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