This is NOT a question of CRF vs PF. Rather I just want to know how the Model 70 push feed stacks up vs other push feeds. Is it basically a good gun ? Is the lack of CRF the only reason that it is bad mouthed or are there other issues with it?
I inhereted one and am wondering if it's woth keeping.

TerryR

It is a very good system. I like CRF but the push feed Model 70 works fine.

most free guns are worth keeping, just becuase of the price you paid. :-) My brothers have Mod 70 push feeds in the featherlight. The 06 needs a recoil pad but the 7x57 is a joy to shoot, and neither of them have ever had a problem and in my shooting them I have never had a problem with them either.

Red

actually this goes back to 1963 when whinchester made the decision to cheapen the model 70 in doing so one of the things they changed was to go away from the claw extractor. That was just one part. what they really accomplished was taking an action which had become the standard everything else was measured by and made into a measured by. then in 65 when thry brought their new mod 70 out all they received was jeers, but in reality they essentially made it into a model 700 remington clone sort of.

many head of game has been taken with a pushfeed mdl 70, might not be as sexy as a CRF, but they work fine.

If I had to bet one way or the other and I'm a big fan of CRF, I'd bet more CRF have been sent back to get worked on than pushfeeds, but that just my guess.

I have a vault full of Model 70 Winchester CRF rifles that all are custom jobs and have particularly beautiful wood, are all very handsome and extremely accurate. All of the CRF's have been pampered and tinkered with and tweaked and have had many dollars spent on them with gunsmiths, not necessarily needed for use on hunting but for beauty or should I say self satisfaction. ----- I also have an old (bought in 1973) push feed Model 70 in .300 Win mag that I wouldn't take a farm in Georgia for. It has NEVER seen a gunsmith and wouldn't know how to behave in front of one. It has an old 3 X 9 Redfield scope mount with, now listen to this, see thru mounts. It has bangs and scratchs and gaudges taken from it in places like New Mexico, Colorado, Alaska, and of course the backwoods of Kentucky. It has killed a 91/2 ft Brown Bear, 14 Caribou, hundreds of Deer, and many Elk. It will still shoot one hole groups for me, my son and grandson with a 180 grain Nosler Partition or North Fork bullet at 3100 fps all day long if we do our part. Yep, I like the Model 70 push feeds and always will. Talk about the CRF's all you want but don't knock the push feeds for plain old shooting around my house. Good shooting.

If I could have an action that was my perfect action it would be very wel made but bigger version the M70 PF.

What Gringo Cazador says it right. Ask the people in Winchester Australia.

Mike

butchloc

It is no Rem 700 clone.

It has the best receiver design going and its extractor does not mean half the case hangs out of the chamber like a Rem 700.

Mike

I dont think Winchester cheapened there model 70 . What they did see was that remington had a better thing going with there push feed 700 and they switched and i think they did rather well with that switch don't you?

I suspect one pushfeed is about like another, how could they be different as to feeding at least...

Tanoose,
No, I don't think your right, I know it was a production profit change..they cheapened production to meet the competition and it failed and they slowly came back to the old pre 64 as the people demanded it and the pushfeed sales were failing miserably...Winchester history.

No ,one push feed is not just like another . The Winchester has a number of good attributes over a 700 Remington in my view , including shape of the bolt handle and attachment of the handle to the bolt body , the stiff massive flat bottomed reciever with forged intergel recoil lug , more reliable trigger , better safety , easily stripped bolt , and also the extractor can be easily serviced in the field , unlike Remington . Really quite a list when you thinkabout it........

Ray,

They are different. I would say on average a Model 70 is PF is a nicer feeder than the Rem 700 but the Rem 700 seems to be able feed a much bigger variation in calibres without change.

Then of course there are the in line centre feeders.

Of the staggered magazines the most reliable feeders I have seen a Wby and 303 SMLE and I believe that is because the magazine itself controls the feeding, not action rails.

In my opinion the only "true" controlling of the round feeding of the big game rifles are the big Wbys with their in line feed and Remingtons ABG Rifle and Sauer would be the same along with HS Precision.

Mike

sdgunslinger,

and unlike a Mauser extractor you can carry a 100 M70 PF extractors in your shirt pocket

Mike

A push feed M70 is safer than either a Rem 700 or a Wby Mark V.