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Here are the the bullets we have managed to recover from animals we shot this year.

From the left.

1. Bullet removed so Walter could have some gun powder for his witch doctor medicine to cure Ray's bad luck with buffalo.

2. Recovered from a rock when I missed a kudu bull after Walter "updated" my scope settings!?

3,4,5 were recovered from buffalo, either shot into the chest from the front or into the rear legs as they faced away. These bullets weighed 238-240 grains.

6. Was recovered from a blue wildebeest, shot at about 250 yards facing away. The bullet entered the stomach, ranging forward and was found in the neck on the other side. It weighed 238 grains.

7,8,9,10 were recovered from buffalo. #8 was fired into the head of a facing bull at about 50 yards. It stopped in the neck, and weighed 232 grains.

11 was recovered from a hippo, shot in the head at about 15-20 yards. It weighed 202 grains.

Broadside and quartering shots went through. These bullets had a muzzle velocity of 2790 fps.

We did increase both the diameter and depth of the HP in these, but, we did not notice any change in performance with the ones we made last year.
 
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Interesting !

Did you manage to find any trace of the fragments/petals ?

Do you prefer these new bullets versa Barnes X ?



It seems like your product is a bullet that has some of the Barnes X features (NO lead) and some of the advantages from solids (deep penetration)



Thanks for posting



Cheers,



Andr�
 
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Amazingly consistent shape to the recovered bullets. Do you think the lost petals had any effect on performance?
 
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Some questions and a suggestion...



First, it appears that the front part of the bullet is (let's try)"sacrificial". I would imagine that if the first 8" to 10" of penetration is viewed, there would be an area of tissue damage much larger than usual, even with conventional bullets, this because a substanial portion of the bullet is destroyed. Thereafter (again I'm guessing) the bullets perform pretty much like any solid. Did you so experience?



I would think that the "Walterhog" has a much better b.c. than a flat nosed solid like the new Northfork. That is an obvious advantage, but what I'm really wondering, is anything gained or lost because of the more "pointed" business end of the bullet?



Next, did you determine the "straightness" of penetration, particularly after impact with large bone.



Finally, what did you do with the rock you "killed"? I hope you had it brought back to Dubai and on a daily basis whup Walter up side the head with it for improving the zero of your scope.



 
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Gentlemen,

These bullet seem to penetrate more than the Barnes X. May be because Barnes opens up quicker than ours.

We have not been able to recover any of the petals. May be because our bullets do not have pre-engraved grooves as on the Barnes.

We just drill a hole into the nose of the bullet.

They seem to open up down to the bottom of the HP, and from then on behave like a flat solid. This did not seem to himder the penetration at all.

We designed it with this shape because I liked the looks of it. This might be an advantage to some of the longer shots.

I did not check the straightness of the penetration of those that were recovered, but, those that have gone through the animals seem to have gone on a straight line.

The rock was far too big to bring back home. But Walter was made aware that his antics will result in him being fed to the crocs.

He wanted to take home a large piece of wood he shot. I have a photo of it with both him and Pierre. He stood the piece of wood behind Pierre, and put the shooting sticks on his shoulders, and made him look as if he has been crucified!

Pierre said he felt like that after hunting with Walter.
 
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What is the diameter of the HP (drill)
Are you planning to experiment with the diameter and see what happens at different velocities and different diameters ???

Cheers,

Andr�
 
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The hole diameter is 0.125", opening at the mouth to 0.175.

I think we might play around with different sizes when we get our new lathe, and see how they work.

Here is a photo of Walter's trophy log.

 
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Thank you for the info on the bullets.
I will follow the further development of your Walterhog bullets.
Rasing a baby like the Walterhog bullets must be very interesting project. And the testing grand sport

Having a crazy cheerful friend like Walter will make you feel either teen years younger or wear you down totally

Looks like the first

Cheers,

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Saeed: Slightly off topic, but it's been peaking my curiosity since I joined this learned forum. Who exactly is Walter? does he live in the UAE? He's obviously a great friend of yours, but whatever he does, I want his job! it sounds like he's forever having fun! jorge
 
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In the late 70's, an American pilot working for the police air wing here brought Walter to Dubai. To work as a gunsmith.

I was unfortunate enough to be the first to meet Walter, and thought he was a perfect candidate for playing tricks on.

I took him bird shooting in my ski boat. We used to shoot seagulls for our falcons.

I remember Walter holding a cigarrete in one, an ice cream in the other, and a loaded shotgun under his armpit with the boat going at 70 miles an hour.

He never managed to shoot any birds, he said he had a hard time trying not to fall out of the boat.

I thought that first meeting was enough to make him stay away from me.

But, I was mistaken. We have been suffering the company of each other ever since.

He is a bit unconventional in his behaviour, but he has a heart of gold. I have not met anyone who did not like Walter, and that includes me, which he thinks is rather unfortunate.

Here is a photo of the boat mentioned above.

 
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BIG BORE BOAT
TOO much engine. ( is that a 225 hp or 300??)
That boat is like a 7lbs .460 Weatherby

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Saeed,



Would you try a few of Mike Brady's 300 grain bonded soft points in your 375 x 404 next year?



They are just as consistant as your Barnes X and Walterhog except they expand to .70 caliber.



They are a "medium-penetration" bullet and cannot over expand with that solid copper base.



You may have to anneal the Walterhog to keep the mushroom intact.



Please consider Mikes bonded soft point for a few head of game next year.



Thank you for the photos!



PS Ahmed was mentioned in the Wall Street Journal while you were gone. It said he practiced 500 rounds a day!



Andy
 
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