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04 January 2014, 21:33
MattMckaid work
Hi,does anyone have any info on doing any volunteer or aid work mixed with hunting?
Thanks
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04 January 2014, 22:09
SteveGloil & water (unfortunately)
04 January 2014, 22:14
dwarf416yes sir. what could you do?
diego
04 January 2014, 22:27
shotgun46I have carried a SCI blue bag filled with medical supplies as additional baggage. Check with your local hospitals for surplus supplies and out of date medical items . Ask your outfitter I am sure there is a clinic in need of medical supplies that would be put to good use.
04 January 2014, 22:30
Frostbitquote:
Originally posted by shotgun46:
I have carried a SCI blue bag filled with medical supplies as additional baggage. Check with your local hospitals for surplus supplies and out of date medical items . Ask your outfitter I am sure there is a clinic in need of medical supplies that would be put to good use.
Just be very very careful you know what you are doing. We did this going into Mexico and ended up detained for half a day.
04 January 2014, 22:49
MattMckHi diego, I am a registered nurse and Christian but would be happy labouring or helping out.
Matt
I do not hunt in order to kill, but kill in order that I have hunted.
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04 January 2014, 23:07
shakariMatt
It depends on which African country your interested in but FWIW, a Google search on something like Medical volunteer Africa should give you plenty of opportunities.
Also FWIW, one of the most humbling experiences of my life was when Mrs Shakari took me to Bugando hospital in Mwanza, Tanzania where she went to do a few day's work........ it suddenly made me realise how lucky I was to be born white and relatively wealthy by African standards! - I've never forgotten that experience.
04 January 2014, 23:14
joesterThere are many ways to offer aid, but most involve a LOT of pre-planning. I offered to volunteer at an orphanage clinic in Bulawayo but was told I'd need a pre-arranged work permit even to volunteer, and that without it, the people there could get into trouble! The reality is that graft/ bribe$ etc. are seemingly intrinsic , esp. in developing nations. So do your homework. There are some dentists on AR who have volunteered, pehaps one will weigh in or PM you.
An easy way to help is to bring stuff to donate. My wife & I have done this on all our African hunts, in four countries. We always take the biggest duffel bags we can get away with, IMHO, SCI blue bags are way too small. Last summer, we donated clothing & soccer balls in Zim. & Moz. Our PH hosts families were really helpful, and seeing the children ( and I don't even like kids!) was more fulfilling than shooting my cape buffalo. Shoes are especially needed ( crocs are great, we buy 'em at charity thrift stores throughout the year, a win-win) b/c of rampant parasitic infections p/u via bare feet. Some of the kids who got shoes had never worn or owned shoes, and these were older kids.
One other issue is airport duties... In Joburg we always went unhassled (4x) through the " No Declarations" customs area. In Bulawayo, Windhoek, Harare they'll expect duties , even on obvously used kids clothes. The fees are small, maybe $10-$20, so expect to pay something.
Wish you all the best, curious to see where this thread goes...
04 January 2014, 23:16
MattMckThanks Steve, they talk about poverty herein the Uk, but of an entirely different standard!
I do not hunt in order to kill, but kill in order that I have hunted.
'If ur'e gonna do it, do it right!'
04 January 2014, 23:23
MattMckThankz.joester, I like the idea of taking supplies over, but I was wandering if any company or outfitter specialised in such a trip.
I do not hunt in order to kill, but kill in order that I have hunted.
'If ur'e gonna do it, do it right!'
04 January 2014, 23:23
shakariMatt
If you're nurse in the UK, I think you'll find that the cardio thoracic surgical team at Guys do or at least did do regular team trips out to Africa to do baby heart ops etc...... if that's any use to you.
05 January 2014, 00:20
Todd WilliamsNice to see someone wanting to make a positive contribution!
05 January 2014, 02:59
LionHunterquote:
Originally posted by joester:
There are many ways to offer aid, but most involve a LOT of pre-planning. I offered to volunteer at an orphanage clinic in Bulawayo but was told I'd need a pre-arranged work permit even to volunteer, and that without it, the people there could get into trouble! The reality is that graft/ bribe$ etc. are seemingly intrinsic , esp. in developing nations. So do your homework. There are some dentists on AR who have volunteered, pehaps one will weigh in or PM you.
An easy way to help is to bring stuff to donate. My wife & I have done this on all our African hunts, in four countries. We always take the biggest duffel bags we can get away with, IMHO, SCI blue bags are way too small. Last summer, we donated clothing & soccer balls in Zim. & Moz. Our PH hosts families were really helpful, and seeing the children ( and I don't even like kids!) was more fulfilling than shooting my cape buffalo. Shoes are especially needed ( crocs are great, we buy 'em at charity thrift stores throughout the year, a win-win) b/c of rampant parasitic infections p/u via bare feet. Some of the kids who got shoes had never worn or owned shoes, and these were older kids.
One other issue is airport duties... In Joburg we always went unhassled (4x) through the " No Declarations" customs area. In Bulawayo, Windhoek, Harare they'll expect duties , even on obvously used kids clothes. The fees are small, maybe $10-$20, so expect to pay something.
Wish you all the best, curious to see where this thread goes...
I would only stress that proper pre-planning will save you a lot of potential problems, including spending time as a client of an african jail/prison. First step would be to query the embassy of the country in which you wish to volunteer. If you were a U.S. citizen it would also be well worth contacting the State Department and following their warnings/advice. Not sure what your government agency might be in England, but do check with them. Expect extensive paperwork, permits and fees to be required.
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05 January 2014, 07:15
Jerry HuffakerWe have a group from here that do a three week medical mission in Zambia every year. They treat over 15,000 people every year. There are several hunters in this group and some go on hunts elsewhere after the work is done. I can put you in contact with them if you like.
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05 January 2014, 12:33
MattMckYes please Jerry, thank you.
Matt
I do not hunt in order to kill, but kill in order that I have hunted.
'If ur'e gonna do it, do it right!'
05 January 2014, 21:47
joesterMatt, You may want to contact Pete Fisher of Nchila Wildlife Reserve in Zambia. He is a PH as well as a missionary and I read a hunt report from a hunter whose wife & daughter assisted in surgery at a hospital that Pete helps sponsor. Google him, Cheers!
11 January 2014, 06:51
gunslinger55Interesting thread. Me and the wife (in the medical field)were thinking of this very idea. Would like any and all information as well. Thanks
White Mountains Arizona
11 January 2014, 06:52
gunslinger55Interested as well. Thanks
quote:
Originally posted by Jerry Huffaker:
We have a group from here that do a three week medical mission in Zambia every year. They treat over 15,000 people every year. There are several hunters in this group and some go on hunts elsewhere after the work is done. I can put you in contact with them if you like.
White Mountains Arizona
11 January 2014, 06:52
gunslinger55Ditto
quote:
Originally posted by joester:
Matt, You may want to contact Pete Fisher of Nchila Wildlife Reserve in Zambia. He is a PH as well as a missionary and I read a hunt report from a hunter whose wife & daughter assisted in surgery at a hospital that Pete helps sponsor. Google him, Cheers!
White Mountains Arizona