Folks,

Here is a photo of the three bullets I was able to recover. They are all Swift A-Frames.

Picture perfect expansions.

FWIW,

-Steve

I have always considered the Swift A-Frame to be a very god bullet. I used it myself in RSA in 2002 in my .338 LM
Thank you for postng.

Cheers,

Andr�

I have never heard of an A-Fram failing.

Do they foul your bore much? I heard that the jacket is pure or almost pure copper.

I used the .375 H&H, 300 grain Swift A-Frames in Remington Safari factory ammo during our recent hunt in Namibia. I packed cleaning supplies and throughly cleaned the bore several times during the hunt.

While practising and sighting in prior to the hunt I found that they were very accurate when shooting from a freshly cleaned bore. 3 shot groups measured less than 1" at 100 yards. After 8 - 10 shots groups opened up dramatically to 3" - 4" and shots were printing all over the target.

After a thorough (and time consuming) cleaning with Butch's Bore Shine and Sweets, brushes and lots of patches, accuracy was restored.

At first, I attributed the problem to a rough bore. But I have shot Trophy Bonded Bear Claws from the same rifle on several previous safaris without experiencing such severe fouling problems and accuracy degradation.

The A-Frames are great bullets, but I think I'll go back to the TBBCs. I don't want to have to clean my rifle every 10 shots to maintain acceptable accuracy.

That is certainly good info to know regarding the A-Frames. I had pretty good luck with them in Afirca, but then again I only fired six times ( plus three sight in) and got six kills . I am planning to take my 416 Rigby with 400gr for buffalo next June. I'll have to take the rifle to the range and fire 10-15 rounds and check for accuracy and get back to you guys. jorge

500,

I don't have what I'd call excessive fouling using them. Not that I've noticed, anyway. I'd have to say that all my bad shots were my fault and not the gun's.

I would have cleaned my rifles while there, but (as I mentioned in my hunt report) I had a stuck case occur while shooting my 375 at a gemsbok. It shot so high that if you'll look into the night sky you might see it in a polar orbit.

I ended up having to use my cleaing rod and a mallet to get the cartridge out of the chamber. It's a Dewey rod and I bent the jag/brush adaptor in the process.

Don't know why the thing got stuck. I weigh each charge and only keep one set of components on the bench at a time. We were doing a bunch of crawling and I'm leaning on my getting a mild obstruction in the barrel. I shot rounds after and had no problems, so who knows...

-Steve

My rifle is used as a loaner in RSA at my lodge and will go through several dozen shots over the season and it's not cleaned at all for the whole season. It's a Stainless Steel rifle. My groups with the Aframe heve never struggled and have typically offered my hunters one shot kills on every animal they take. I load the 270 Aframes for plains game exclusive. These have also worked in several other rifles for friends and they have never reported back any fouling issues.

One another note, my Barrel fouls horrible with the X bullets. Go figure! I'm not sure its the bullet as much as the barrel. At one time I had a 300 Weatherby and it was the most accurate rifle I have ever shot with the X bullet getting 1-2" groups at 300 yards. However after 3-5 shots I was all over the place until the barrel was cleaned again.

The Nosler partitions in that rifle never did better then 2" at 100 yards but I could shoot them by the dozens without any fouling. This is why shooting preperation is vital before you hunt. Needing to clean your barrel with that kind of effort is not a practical idea on a safari. You could easily shoot a lot of times in one day without the chance to get to the camp or lodge to clean the bore.

There were two guys in my camp this year using two different bullets. One TBBC in 7mm mag and the other SWift A frames in 338. Both said they tried the other brand and the barrel fouled way to much to use them!

Gotta shoot some to see for your self. My 458 Lott shoots 450 grain X bullets by the box load with zero fouling. Its got a PacNor barrel.

I have also used the factory .375 H&H 300 grain Swift A Frame's from Remington. I found it shot vey well in my Sako Safari. I used it in the East Cape of RSA in 2001 to take 9 animals. Ranges varied from 80 yards to 315 yards. Recovered 3 bullets that looked like the ones posted. 6 one shot kills while I gave an extra insurance shot to 3 animals.

I have not noticed any unusual or heaving fouling when using this bullet/cartridge combination. I have used this round exclusively since 2000 and have probably fired 8-10 boxes of factory Remington Safari ammo since then.

I am very pleased with performance and accuracy out of my rifle.

RCG

Have used a lot of Swift A-frame bullets including the 300 in 375 H&H and the 500 in 460 Wby.

Recovered one 458/500 from the hip of a facing eland shot from 200 yards distance using the 460 Wby.

Recovered one 375/300 from a gemsbok, but another completely penetrated the same gemsbok. Recovered four 375/300 bullets that went lengthwise through a departing warthog. Plenty of deep penetration into the heart/lung area from the rear.

All the recovered ones look like your photos.

Think all other Swift A-frames have produced complete penetration.

Hammer

I used A frames for awhile in 338 and 375 and shot a few buffalo with them in the 416...

I liked them on big stuff like Eland and Buffalo, but never was satisfied with them on plainsgame as they all do just like the above bullets, the expand into a smooth ball with no ragged edges and in many cases I did not get the blood trail that I expected and death came slow and the game made a lot of tracks...Also like Barnes they foul barrels excessively, that is because the jackets are soft and pliable..

Bottom line is if you like them then use them, they are just not my personal choice..I prefer Nosler, Woodleigh and Northforks over the Swift.