Hartebeest

08 May 2011, 03:55

Stonecreek

What about Topi and Tsessebe? I know that they aren't called by the name "hartebeest", but they sure look close enough to be classed with them. I'm alomost certain that they are genetically close enough to cross breed.

I have the hair-on hide of my Red Hartebeest draped over the back of the couch in our den. It has a nice coloration and texture and my wife likes it there as it is where she picks to sit and read or watch TV.

09 May 2011, 01:20

umshiniwam

quote:
Originally posted by Stonecreek:
What about Topi and Tsessebe? I know that they aren't called by the name "hartebeest", but they sure look close enough to be classed with them. I'm alomost certain that they are genetically close enough to cross breed.

I have the hair-on hide of my Red Hartebeest draped over the back of the couch in our den. It has a nice coloration and texture and my wife likes it there as it is where she picks to sit and read or watch TV.

Topi & Tsessebe are closer related to the Blesbok & Bontebok. The Damaliscs. Blesbuck & Red (Cape) Hartebeest have been known to interbreed, but I think the offspring is infertile.

A Red Hartebeest skin makes one of the nicer floor rugs, in my opinion too.

09 May 2011, 03:09

L. David Keith

On a side note: Blesbok and Bontebok have been allowed to interbreed to the point I dare say the top 25 Bontebok in the record books are nothing more than Hybrids. Today, for the US Hunter anyway you need a CITES permit to import Bontebok including a letter from the ranch owner stating the purpose of culling said Bontebok. Pure Bontebok will have solid black horns, not streaked with "blond." Their body color is another give away but don't go by the white face patch being broken or solid. It can vary. As for the Hartebeest's, I find them so ugly they are beautiful..

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09 May 2011, 07:09

billrquimby

quote:
Originally posted by George Dina:
How many species of Hartebeest exist in Africa?

There are only three species, with the buselaphus species commonly classified as having six subspecies and two hybrids.

1, Alcelaphus buselaphus
A.b. buselaphus (Bubal hartebeest) extinct
A.b. coki (Coke hartebeest or kongoni)
A.b. lelwel (Lelwel hartebeest)
A.b. major (western hartebeest)
A.b. swaynei (Swayne hartebeest)
A.b. tora (Tora hartebeest)
hybrids
A.b. lelwel x cokii (Kenya highland hartebeest)
A.b. lelwel x swaynei (Neumann hartebeest)

2, Alcelaphus caama (red hartebeest)

3. Alcelaphus lichtensteini (Lichtenstein hartebeest)

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09 May 2011, 13:46

Karl S

quote:
Originally posted by umshiniwam:
quote:
Originally posted by Stonecreek:
What about Topi and Tsessebe? I know that they aren't called by the name "hartebeest", but they sure look close enough to be classed with them. I'm alomost certain that they are genetically close enough to cross breed.

I have the hair-on hide of my Red Hartebeest draped over the back of the couch in our den. It has a nice coloration and texture and my wife likes it there as it is where she picks to sit and read or watch TV.

Topi & Tsessebe are closer related to the Blesbok & Bontebok. The Damaliscs. Blesbuck & Red (Cape) Hartebeest have been known to interbreed, but I think the offspring is infertile.

A Red Hartebeest skin makes one of the nicer floor rugs, in my opinion too.

Blesbok and red hartebeest hybrids are not infertile, I have seen and shot out their offspring on a reserve close to Wepener in the Freestate RSA.

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09 May 2011, 15:09

umshiniwam

quote:
Originally posted by Karl S:

Blesbok and red hartebeest hybrids are not infertile, I have seen and shot out their offspring on a reserve close to Wepener in the Freestate RSA.

Thanks Karl. I was not sure.

Now, if you could please let me know the details of the reserve, I would like to go and do my bit for conservation and shoot some too

Cheers,
Scott.