https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/...seven-years-25508042



Trophy hunters face seven years' jail as stars urge support for new law

Labour MP John Spellar’s plan is supported by celebrities and across the political divide, including by Tory MPs. It would make importing threatened or vulnerable species an offence


By Chris McLaughlin Political reporter
21:25, 20 Nov 2021
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Hunters smuggling in big game trophies face seven years’ jail under a planned new law.

And all owners of hunting trophies – such as lion skins, tusks, antlers, heads and other macabre souvenirs – would have to register or face jail.

The changes, proposed in a Bill, come after legislation promised by PM Boris Johnson two years ago has failed to appear.

Labour MP John Spellar’s plan is supported by celebrities and across the political divide, including by Tory MPs.

Hunters can import trophies of animals, including polar bears and reindeer, ­under a limited number of Government licences.

The Hunting Trophy (Prohibition) Bill would make importing threatened or vulnerable species an offence, with culprits facing up to seven years in jail.


It would bring trophy smuggling into line with laws covering the import of ivory from elephants and rhino.

Mr Spellar said: “It’s time for action, not words. We need to make sure that these sick imports are stopped and the only way to do that is to make it a crime.”


Actress Dame Judi Dench said the Government should back the Bill to show its “determination to ban animals being senselessly slaughtered for souvenirs.”


Downton Abbey star Peter Egan said: “Wildlife can’t wait any more.

“Every year that goes by without this ban in place means ­hundreds more animals are killed just for kicks.”

The private members’ bill is likely to need Government support to become law.

Spoof of evil offer

Campaigners have produced spoof ads to shame hunters and their “sport” of shooting animals for fun.

The ads for “Trophy Hunting Holidays” mock real offers marketed by the trophy hunting industry.


Huge posters from the 30-second social media parody launched today will be circling Parliament from tomorrow.

Voiced by Peter Egan and Vikings actor Richard Ashton, it offers “hot new deals” such as two-for-one lion kills, cheetah hunts for £2,500, giraffes for £1,000 and elephants for £7,000.

Campaign Against Trophy Hunting’s Eduardo Goncalves said: “It’s funny in a dark way but the idea is to show just how grotesque and twisted the industry is.”

They should be saving the UK from Boris, and his blonde Bimbo!

"It would bring trophy smuggling into line with laws covering the import of ivory from elephants and rhino."

Learn something new every day. Never knew rhinos had ivory.

And, I never knew that legally importing trophies into the UK was smuggling. What a bunch of typical English pussies!

No wonder the sun set on the British Empire…..

The last decent ruler they had was Mrs Thatcher.

After that they have been having one dickhead or another!

They are proposing to make the EXPORT of trophies illegal too. Lots of European hunters come to the UK for the deer, so that will also end.

What happens when you have a brainless stupid, greenei bimbo in charge!

Boris is well and truly fucked up!

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Originally posted by Deerdogs:
They are proposing to make the EXPORT of trophies illegal too. Lots of European hunters come to the UK for the deer, so that will also end.

The Export to Trophys is also Illegal
Cant believe this.
There are thousands Red Stags and Roe Deers taken every year from foreign hunters. This will be a real disaster.

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Originally posted by mboga biga bwana:

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Originally posted by Deerdogs:
They are proposing to make the EXPORT of trophies illegal too. Lots of European hunters come to the UK for the deer, so that will also end.

The Export to Trophys is also Illegal
Cant believe this.
There are thousands Red Stags and Roe Deers taken every year from foreign hunters. This will be a real disaster.

lt's hard to get a good law passed, and impossible to get a bad one removed. l have little doubt that if the other side got in we wouldn't see any significant difference to the situation here. BASC et al keep their heads down and draw membership monies for doing sweet fa, while the likes of the fishing, hunting and wing shooting fraternity show little inclination to band together in support of each other, even though once the cards start to tumble they may very well be next for the chop.

Princess Nutnuts Rules in Pepa Pig Land for sure...

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Originally posted by Deerdogs:
They are proposing to make the EXPORT of trophies illegal too. Lots of European hunters come to the UK for the deer, so that will also end.

Wow. Who knew my CWD would be up there with tigers as far as unhuntable species go.

In the race for total pussification, the UK only leads the USA by a furlong. Take a good look at the Brandon administration.

Happy Thanksgiving, all!

It makes no sense at all that a bunch of urbanites in the UK feel that it's their job to manage wildlife in other countries. Isn't that a colonial attitude? Last time I was in the UK, I didn't see much wildlife there. I did see a lot of rather ugly humans though. Perhaps they ought to take care of their own affairs before they tell the rest of the world how to manage their wildlife.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/ne...le-trophy-kills.html

Hunters finally face total ban bringing home vile trophy kills.

The British MP's would do well to focus more on Universal Dental Care and less on legal and sustainable big game hunting in their former colonies.

Please carry on my friends.

Britons, especially celebrities, should face 7 year terms for procreating.

"Macabre souveniers" Now that's a well-defined term with no ambiguities for you.

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Originally posted by lavaca:
"Macabre souveniers" Now that's a well-defined term with no ambiguities for you.

That jumped out at me. The “press” is crap.

https://www.gov.uk/government/...s-threatened-species


Press release

Importing of hunting trophies banned to protect world’s threatened species

Government response to the consultation and call for evidence sets out one of the toughest bans in the world on the import of hunting trophies

From:
Department for Environment, Food & Rural Affairs, The Rt Hon Lord Goldsmith, and The Rt Hon George Eustice MP
Published
10 December 2021

Import of hunting trophies from thousands of endangered and threatened species to be banned - including lions, rhinos, elephants, and polar bears
Ban on imports of hunting trophies will be one of toughest in the world and protect nearly 7,000 species
Key manifesto commitment as part of a wider UK drive on international conservation
Importing hunting trophies from thousands of endangered and threatened species, including lions, rhinos, elephants, and polar bears, is set to be banned, under new measures announced by Environment Secretary George Eustice today.

The new ban will apply to imports of hunting trophies from endangered and threatened animals into Great Britain, supporting long-term species conservation and protecting some of the world’s most endangered and threatened animals – including the frequently killed ‘Big Five’ (lions, leopards, rhinos, elephants and buffalos).

In the last 50 years, there has been a 60% decline in wildlife globally. This ban will be among the toughest in the world and will protect a range of species including nearly 6,000 animals that are currently threatened by international trade.

The Ban will also cover over 1,000 additional species which are considered near-threatened or worse, such as African buffalo, zebra and reindeer – going further than the Government’s initial manifesto commitment to prohibit the import of hunting trophies from endangered species.

The Government consulted on a ban in 2019 and we received over 44,000 responses which showed clear public and conservation group support for tighter restrictions with 86% supporting further action.

Environment Secretary George Eustice said:
More animal species are now threatened with extinction than ever before in human history and we are appalled at the thought of hunters bringing back trophies and placing more pressure on some of our most iconic and endangered animals.

This would be one of the toughest bans in the world, and goes beyond our manifesto commitment, meaning we will be leading the way in protecting endangered animals and helping to strengthen and support long-term conservation.

Eduardo Gonçalves, founder of the Campaign to Ban Trophy Hunting, said:
The government’s bill looks set to be the strongest ban in the world. This is the leadership that we have been calling for to save endangered species and help bring this terrible trade to an end.

Wildlife needs this ban. Endangered animals are cruelly and needlessly killed every day, and many of them are brought back to Britain as trophies.

I urge the government to bring the bill to Parliament as soon as possible, and will be asking MPs and Peers to get behind it.

Claire Bass, executive director of Humane Society International UK said:
We welcome the Government’s commitment today to a UK hunting trophy import ban that will protect thousands of species including lions, elephants and giraffe, ruthlessly targeted by trophy hunters. We also welcome that it has ruled out loopholes that would have allowed hunters to carry on shipping their sick souvenirs.

We now urge ministers to expedite the introduction of this legislation, which will make going on holiday to kill endangered animals and bring home their body parts as legally indefensible as it is socially unacceptable.

Born Free’s Head of Policy Dr Mark Jones said:
It cannot be right for British hunters to be able to pay to kill endangered wild animals overseas and ship the trophies home. While the UK is by no means the biggest destination for international hunting trophies, nevertheless UK-based hunters frequently travel overseas to kill animals for fun, including species that are threatened with extinction. The proposed ban will send a clear signal that the UK does not condone the brutal killing of threatened wild animals for this so-called ‘sport’ by UK citizens.

It is two years since the British public overwhelmingly called for an end to hunting trophy imports, so we urge the Government to introduce and implement this legislation as quickly as possible.

Biodiversity is declining at an unprecedented rate. The population of Africana savanna elephants has decreased by more than half in the last 50 years whilst the number of African lions has declined to just 20,000 in the wild in the last 20 years.

Trophy hunting can add to the range of threats that species face and have negative knock-on effects for animal populations or entire ecosystems. Banning trophy imports from these endangered and threatened animals – with no exemptions – will help reduce the threats many of these species are already facing.

The UK Government is at the forefront of international efforts to protect endangered animals and plants and following a recent £7.2m boost, is investing £46m between 2014 and 2021 through its IWTCF to directly combat the illegal wildlife trade to benefit nature, people, the economy and protect global security.

The Government’s world-leading Ivory Act will also come into force next year and will further support conservation measures by introducing a near total ban on the import export and dealing of items containing elephant ivory in the UK, regardless of their age.

Alongside today’s announcement, the measures are part of the Government’s wider plan to reverse biodiversity loss and reinforce our position as a global champion in conservation and animal welfare as set out in our Action Plan for Animal Welfare. The measures will be included in future legislation aimed at raising welfare standards and protections for animals abroad. Further details of this will be forthcoming soon.

"The Ban will also cover over 1,000 additional species which are considered near-threatened or worse, such as African buffalo, zebra and reindeer – going further than the Government’s initial manifesto commitment to prohibit the import of hunting trophies from endangered species."

What an absolute joke. Insanity at its best in the UK.

LOL
that'll stop E'm from just shooting them and,,, well,, just not bringing them back.

https://www.news24.com/news24/...ng-trophies-20211216



Southern African countries to lose billions as UK plans to ban importation of hunting trophies

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Lenin Ndebele


Saving wildlife with ancient hunting skills in South Africa

The Tracker Academy at SA College for Tourism is training young people in the ancient skill of tracking. With this knowledge they help preserve wildlife and can find jobs in national parks instead of becoming poachers.

The UK seeks to ban animal trophies to protect animals from extinction.
Zimbabwe says southern Africa could lose revenue from "emotional" decisions which are not science-based.
More than 126 000 trophies are exported out of Africa annually.
Southern African countries stand to lose billions of US dollars in wildlife and tourism revenue if the United Kingdom passes into law a bill that seeks to ban the importation of hunting trophies.


The UK says thousands of endangered and threatened species, including lions, rhinos, elephants, zebras and buffaloes, used to market safaris in Africa, need to be preserved as they face extinction.

"In the last 50 years, there has been a 60% decline in wildlife globally. This ban will be among the toughest in the world and will protect a range of species, including nearly 6 000 animals that are currently threatened by international trade," read a notice by the UK government.


The idea of such a law was first mooted in 2015 after American hunter Walter J. Palmer killed a collared lion called Cecil in Zimbabwe, sparking an international outcry. The zebra and African buffalo have also been singled out in promoting the UK government's commitment to prohibit the importation of hunting trophies from endangered species.



UK Environment Secretary George Eustice said they were "appalled at the thought" of hunters bringing back trophies and placing more pressure on some of the most iconic and endangered animals.

Zimbabwe Parks and Wildlife Management Authority (ZimParks) spokesperson Tinashe Farawo said the move by the UK was not science-based, and there was no consultation with affected communities in Africa.

"They didn't consider that revenue from hunting is used for looking after animals and their habitats. This is through funding anti-poaching initiatives [and] law enforcement. Hunting creates employment for locals, and some of the money realised from trophy sales is used in road construction, building schools and clinics in areas where there are wildlife resources.

"In Zimbabwe and Botswana, there is an overpopulation of elephants, and one way of bringing down the numbers to a manageable size is through the hunts. Overpopulation of animals results in them destroying their habitats, as such, our hunting seasons and quotas are science-driven," he said.



According to Humane Society International, a wildlife conservancy organisation, African elephant hunts can cost between US$11 000 and $70 000 (R176 000 to R1 120 000). African elephant trophies are imported primarily from Zimbabwe, Botswana, South Africa, Tanzania, Namibia and Zambia.

The United States is the biggest trophy market, while an estimated 126 000 trophies leave Africa annually, according to the organisation.

Compared to the UK, wildlife organisation Born Free estimates that in the past 10 years at least 2 000 trophies were imported.

Research published in 2018 in a paper titled "The economic impact of trophy hunting in the South African wildlife industry" found that trophy hunters spent US$250 million (R4 billion) per annum in South Africa alone.

Southern African countries are in a dilemma because of their stockpile of ivory. At the Convention on International Trade in Endangered Species (CITES), SADC member states have been calling for the lifting of a ban on trade in ivory, but East African countries say there should be a total ban on the trade.

Trophy hunts remain the only official channel for selling trophies from Africa.

Dr Alistair Pole, a researcher at the African Wildlife Foundation, told journalists last month that for Africa to benefit from its trophies, there was a need for a united stance at CITES.

"The conservation agenda of Africa is still being dominated by Europe and other outsiders. Until we mobilise the people of Africa to take charge of conservation, until Africa mobilises itself and tells the world what it wants, nothing is going to change," he said.

The International ivory trade was banned in 1989 because of a 10-year period in which African elephant numbers declined by more than 50%, from 1.3 million to 600 000. However, in 1999 and 2008 CITES allowed once-off trade.

The News24 Africa Desk is supported by the Hanns Seidel Foundation. The stories produced through the Africa Desk and the opinions and statements that may be contained herein do not reflect those of the Hanns Seidel Foundation.

next step ban hunting in uk then no need for firearms ....

https://thehill.com/opinion/in...is-on-trophy-hunting

Biden bested by Boris on trophy hunting.

Good thing we still have the "right" to post hero shots with dead stuff.

"Never pick a fight with an opponent who buys ink by the barrel."

We've assisted the demise of our sport by insisting posting pictures hasn't or won't organize and infuriate the anti-crowd.

That ship has obviously sailed. I've said it hundreds of time in here, Hunting is NOT a spectator sport. Its bloody and even messy at times. It is best left to share with family and close friends.

The left is simply being the left. They are predictable. They do however have money and are able to mobilize in unison. They will huddle together in spite of small differences in order to accomplish goals. Something we are unable to do.

We tend to be tribal. We have tribes of DR hunters, big bore, small bore, archery, traditional archery. Were we able to defend cohesively, we would have a much louder voice.

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The last decent ruler they had was Mrs Thatcher.

After that they have been having one dickhead or another!

Agreed!
What practical purpose does such a law serve?

Bren berg After spending time in England. I saw Steve Arhenburg’s mentality of not being seen. Thst attitude is pervasive in English hunting culture that I witnessed.

This legislation is more proof of what I am being saying all along. Hiding like the mob, or how the porn industry use to his is harmful and not helpful to the cause of hunting.

Until hunting goes pop culture, again like President Roosevelt, Hemmingway, Duke Wayne, Being Crosby influential people seen hunting (not hunting niche celebrities like Shockeys and Boddingtons). People who are significant and influential to the shaping of pop culture will hunting thrive and survive.

Hunting needs to take a page out of the Gay, Lesbian, Bisexual, Plus movement. Those folks earned social acceptance not by hiding, but constant pressure.

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Originally posted by Steve Ahrenberg:
Good thing we still have the "right" to post hero shots with dead stuff.

"Never pick a fight with an opponent who buys ink by the barrel."

We've assisted the demise of our sport by insisting posting pictures hasn't or won't organize and infuriate the anti-crowd.

That ship has obviously sailed. I've said it hundreds of time in here, Hunting is NOT a spectator sport. Its bloody and even messy at times. It is best left to share with family and close friends.

The left is simply being the left. They are predictable. They do however have money and are able to mobilize in unison. They will huddle together in spite of small differences in order to accomplish goals. Something we are unable to do.

We tend to be tribal. We have tribes of DR hunters, big bore, small bore, archery, traditional archery. Were we able to defend cohesively, we would have a much louder voice.

Steve, I hear you but many have to market hunting and you are not going to do that without images. Besides, there are huge historic archives of images to pick from.

It is about time Africa started to defend safari hunting and we are currently witnessing more of this. Their voice is important as so is film.

What I have found is that there is no way to sway the anti-hunter who truly believes we hunt endangered species and that we are the demise of wildlife.

Rather leave this to research and science than the Old Peoples Home.

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Originally posted by LHeym500:
Bren berg After spending time in England. I saw Steve Arhenburg’s mentality of not being seen. Thst attitude is pervasive in English hunting culture that I witnessed.

This legislation is more proof of what I am being saying all along. Hiding like the mob, or how the porn industry use to his is harmful and not helpful to the cause of hunting.

Until hunting goes pop culture, again like President Roosevelt, Hemmingway, Duke Wayne, Being Crosby influential people seen hunting (not hunting niche celebrities like Shockeys and Boddingtons). People who are significant and influential to the shaping of pop culture will hunting thrive and survive.

Hunting needs to take a page out of the Gay, Lesbian, Bisexual, Plus movement. Those folks earned social acceptance not by hiding, but constant pressure.

And where has it gotten us?

The Gay...Blah, Blah, Blah comment, They have had a very strong political movement and a compliant media behind their every move.

In your face, with killing stuff, just doesn't fly. But do what you will.

Are we supposed to squirrel ourselves into shame and hide??

Not me.

To hell with anyone who does not like what I do.

I make no bones about it, if anyone asks me, I tell exactly as it is.

I have had a few brushes with those ultra haters of our sport.

Never lost an argument!

These people are normally so impressed with their own importance.

Once you crack that, they lose everything!

To hell with the anti-hunting zealots. They are irrational, and they are wrong.

They are great "virtue signalers," as they say these days.

They love to think of themselves as morally superior, yet they invariably cause great harm to the wild creatures they claim to support. Their intentions may be good, but their actions do nothing but harm.

We should resist them whenever and wherever necessary, and without fear or reservation.

By the same token, we should do it with cool heads, and rational argument, so as not to antagonize those who don't hunt, but are not against it.

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Originally posted by Steve Ahrenberg:

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Originally posted by LHeym500:
Bren berg After spending time in England. I saw Steve Arhenburg’s mentality of not being seen. Thst attitude is pervasive in English hunting culture that I witnessed.

This legislation is more proof of what I am being saying all along. Hiding like the mob, or how the porn industry use to his is harmful and not helpful to the cause of hunting.

Until hunting goes pop culture, again like President Roosevelt, Hemmingway, Duke Wayne, Being Crosby influential people seen hunting (not hunting niche celebrities like Shockeys and Boddingtons). People who are significant and influential to the shaping of pop culture will hunting thrive and survive.

Hunting needs to take a page out of the Gay, Lesbian, Bisexual, Plus movement. Those folks earned social acceptance not by hiding, but constant pressure.

And where has it gotten us?

The Gay...Blah, Blah, Blah comment, They have had a very strong political movement and a compliant media behind their every move.

In your face, with killing stuff, just doesn't fly. But do what you will.

The gay movement did not have national media support when the vast majority of States banned and criminalized their relationships up to the 2000s.

The media censored books turned to films that had gay characters or plots.

See Cat on a Hot Tin Roof.

Hiding allows marginalization and misinformation to become social truth.

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Originally posted by LHeym500:

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Originally posted by Steve Ahrenberg:

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Originally posted by LHeym500:
Bren berg After spending time in England. I saw Steve Arhenburg’s mentality of not being seen. Thst attitude is pervasive in English hunting culture that I witnessed.

This legislation is more proof of what I am being saying all along. Hiding like the mob, or how the porn industry use to his is harmful and not helpful to the cause of hunting.

Until hunting goes pop culture, again like President Roosevelt, Hemmingway, Duke Wayne, Being Crosby influential people seen hunting (not hunting niche celebrities like Shockeys and Boddingtons). People who are significant and influential to the shaping of pop culture will hunting thrive and survive.

Hunting needs to take a page out of the Gay, Lesbian, Bisexual, Plus movement. Those folks earned social acceptance not by hiding, but constant pressure.

And where has it gotten us?

The Gay...Blah, Blah, Blah comment, They have had a very strong political movement and a compliant media behind their every move.

In your face, with killing stuff, just doesn't fly. But do what you will.

The gay movement did not have national media support when the vast majority of States banned and criminalized their relationships up to the 2000s.

The media censored books turned to films that had gay characters or plots.

See Cat on a Hot Tin Roof.

Hiding allows marginalization and misinformation to become social truth.

You'll get no argument out of me on this. It's my opinion and mine only.

Hunters outnumber lgbt in the USA. Sure doesn’t feel like it.

https://thehill.com/changing-a...s-so-too-must-the-us



When the UK finally bans wildlife imports so too must the US.

At least in the US there may be hope for a signature on an Executive Order to reverse any such problems.

l received another ambiguous party political reply from my mp the other day.
So regardless of any input and scientific data and arguments to the contrary, the ban will happen so that bojo doesn't loose another 50% of his fortune in a further divorce settlement.

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Originally posted by fairgame:

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Originally posted by Steve Ahrenberg:
Good thing we still have the "right" to post hero shots with dead stuff.

"Never pick a fight with an opponent who buys ink by the barrel."

We've assisted the demise of our sport by insisting posting pictures hasn't or won't organize and infuriate the anti-crowd.

That ship has obviously sailed. I've said it hundreds of time in here, Hunting is NOT a spectator sport. Its bloody and even messy at times. It is best left to share with family and close friends.

The left is simply being the left. They are predictable. They do however have money and are able to mobilize in unison. They will huddle together in spite of small differences in order to accomplish goals. Something we are unable to do.

We tend to be tribal. We have tribes of DR hunters, big bore, small bore, archery, traditional archery. Were we able to defend cohesively, we would have a much louder voice.

Steve, I hear you but many have to market hunting and you are not going to do that without images. Besides, there are huge historic archives of images to pick from.

It is about time Africa started to defend safari hunting and we are currently witnessing more of this. Their voice is important as so is film.

What I have found is that there is no way to sway the anti-hunter who truly believes we hunt endangered species and that we are the demise of wildlife.

Rather leave this to research and science than the Old Peoples Home.

I do not believe hunter photographs have been the big problem. I think the hunting shows on TV and YouTube have been much more damaging. For the anti-hunters seeing video of animals being shot (and the hunter celebrations) is a powerful motivation tool for their cause.

That being said, I don't think there is much that we can do to beat this movement. We may be able to slow it down, but in the end,...growing urbanization and the liberal media will push things in the anti's favor.

Realistically, not many hunters originate in the UK. The few hunters left in the UK are bird hunters for the most part. And they live in tiny houses so not much room for trophies anyway.

France, Germany, Russia are the main sources of trophy hunters out of Europe. There are plenty out of South America as well.

The one thing that surprises me is the lack of Chinese and Japanese hunters. They have the money. Surely some of them have the hunter gene?

Biden or whoever they put in his place, is not going to take this on either. He is on borrowed time and he is going to focus on getting what's left of his socialist agenda done before he gets the boot.

https://www.theguardian.com/wo...phies-to-be-scrapped



But over the weekend it emerged that the bill was no longer likely to be implemented. Government sources said it had been scrapped, and that manifesto commitments including the trophy hunting import ban would no longer take place in this parliament. The government has officially blamed a lack of parliamentary time to implement the bill, elements of which were promised in the 2019 Conservative manifesto.

Common sense at last!

Boris’s Blonde Bimbo must be very upset!