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Is a 270 Win loaded with 150g Noslers fine for a plains game hunt, or are you guys going to make me buy that Weatherby Southgate in 300 Wby Magnum I've been looking at ... I'm thinking I can seriously do a plains game hunt within 18 months, but really don't have anything between my 270 and my 500 Jeffery.  Chuck Regards, Chuck "There's a saying in prize fighting, everyone's got a plan until they get hit" Michael Douglas "The Ghost And The Darkness" | ||
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A 270 will be just fine for anything except a Eland. But i think i would buy the 300 Wby just in case. | |||
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What kind of Noslers and how big of PG? Will you be hunting eland or just smaller animals like impala, warthogs and maybe wildebeest or gemsbok? Zebra would be the biggest animal I'd hunt with the .270 and I wouldn't hesitate to take a clean broadside shot in the heart/lungs on one with a .270 with Partitions, but would never try it with a BT. JMHO. JudgeG ... just counting time 'til I am again finding balm in Gilead chilled out somewhere in the Selous. | |||
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There was a guy, what was his name???? Oh yes, Jack O'conner, he shot a few african critters with a 270 and thought very well of it! | |||
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270 is fine. Don't get sucked into calibre creep. Spend the money for a new rifle on practiseing. | |||
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Chuck, I would recommend something bigger but the 270 with 150 Nosler Partitions will work fine as long as you avoid those going away shots on the big stuff. Mark MARK H. YOUNG MARK'S EXCLUSIVE ADVENTURES 7094 Oakleigh Dr. Las Vegas, NV 89110 Office 702-848-1693 Cell, Whats App, Signal 307-250-1156 PREFERRED E-mail markttc@msn.com Website: myexclusiveadventures.com Skype: markhyhunter Check us out on https://www.facebook.com/pages...ures/627027353990716 | |||
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Thanks all, I wouldn't mind a 300 Weatherby, shooting 200g A-Frames, so I may well buy one. I've hunted with that 270 since 1973, probably put 3000 rounds through it, on it's third barrel. Practice never hurts, but that rifle is like part of me. Kills elk like lightning hit them even on quartering shots. I did give it to my son though and if anything happened to it in Africa ... Probably better buy the 300 Wby ... Mark will you be at the SCI convention in Reno? Chuck Regards, Chuck "There's a saying in prize fighting, everyone's got a plan until they get hit" Michael Douglas "The Ghost And The Darkness" | |||
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Honestly, I'd say use the 270 and save the $$ for the hunt instead of a rifle. Quite literally, there are no PG species that can't be killed by a 270. I wouldn't hesitate for a second to use them on Kudu or Wildebeest, and there's no question on the smaller species. It's ALL about shot placement. If you've got 3000 rounds through that rifle, I'd say it's a safe bet you can shoot it well. That fact alone should make your hunt much more enjoyable. If you've got any doubt, keep in mind the 7x57 and 30-06 have killed a helluva lotta PG animals over the last century or so. It worked for hunters then, and they didn't even have the cartridge technology we have today. What do you think Bell would have been able to do had he access to the Barnes TSX?! _____________________________________________________ No safe queens! | |||
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I'm guilty of caliber creep... I have shot ALOT of plains game with a 300 wiz-bang...This year picked up a 270 for my next trip. Save the money,buy good bullets. Put the money on a couple of days sight seeing instead. | |||
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I have shot absolutely everything that wiggles or moves with my .270 using Nosler 150 partitions. Nothing ever wounded. Everything dead. Including Eland! My daughter took her Giraffe with it last year....and waterbuck. Absolutely the best!!! That being said. After getting my .416 Rigby to hunt Buff. Now I shoot EVERYTHING with the .416. The good old .270 certainly does the job. But the .416 seems to do it a little better. But what is the difference between DEAD and more DEADER?? Use that .270 Know the anatomy, and shoot well. You will be pleased. Save the $$ for trophy fees. But for God's sake.....shoot well! | |||
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Thanks guys ... Chuck Regards, Chuck "There's a saying in prize fighting, everyone's got a plan until they get hit" Michael Douglas "The Ghost And The Darkness" | |||
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Chuck, PG is my bread and butter stuff. We shoot on avg. about 200 trophy head of game in our company per year. Your .270Win is fine, but I'm not a fan of the nosler partitions. 150gr or not. I know that they are very good, I just had too many bad experiences with hunters using them, and it is NOT about bad shot placement. Get some Barnes or the new wonder kid for us on the block, as far as factory goes....Winchester Supreme (super??) Elite. I honestly do not know if they make .270 bullets, but look for them. Armed with that I'll take your for all of our PG, Eland included. Another poster said something very true....practise practise.....where you put the pill is more important than the size of the pill. Charl van Rooyen Owner Infinito Travel Group www.infinito-safaris.com charl@infinito-safaris.com Cell: +27 78 444 7661 Tel: +27 13 262 4077 Fax:+27 13 262 3845 Hereford Street 28A Groblersdal 0470 Limpopo R.S.A. "For the Infinite adventure" Plains Game Dangerous Game Bucket List Specialists Wing-Shooting In House Taxidermy Studio In House Dip and Pack Facility In House Shipping Service Non-Hunting Tours and Safaris Flight bookings "I promise every hunter visiting us our personal attention from the moment we meet you, until your trophies hang on your wall. Our all inclusive service chain means you work with one person (me) taking responsibility during the whole process. Affordable and reputable Hunting Safaris is our game! With a our all inclusive door to door service, who else do you want to have fun with?" South Africa Tanzania Uganda | |||
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270 or 30-06 with the proper bullet works for me but I'm old and set in my ways. I have never lost a animal YET shot with those two calibers. have had to track one or two farther than I wanted  but that was my fault ( bad bullet placement) ie. buck fever  | |||
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I was raised on a 270. My grandfather was too. We've shot elk, moose, caribou, and red deer with our 270s. A 270 will kill any non=dangerous game on the planet, period, and it will kill alot of the dangerous guys too. The real issue here is the type of country in which you will be hunting. I would not hesitate to shoot an kudu or eland with a 270 in open country. However, take the same eland in a mopane forrest with lots of brush and potential for bullet deflection, and I would vote for a much heavier caliber. In fact, when I think of some of the "brushy" shots that I've taken on 4 safaris, there are some that I just would not attempt with a light rifle like a 270. Will J. Parks, III | |||
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A let's see...lots of moose killed with a 270...lot's of elk killed with a 270... but it's not big enough for eland? it will do fine...is it the perfect choice? no are African PG bullet proof?, no I wonder gow many eland have been killed very cleanly with a 6.5x55? Oh yeah all those moose killed in Scandanavia with 6.5x55 died of heart attacks. A 270 with 150 grn premiums will penetrate like nobody's business. Anything but a Texas heart shot will be fine. Hell get some 160 Nosler's partions and you will be lucky to recover a single bullet. Mike Never under estimate the internet community's ability to reply to your post with their personal rant about their tangentially related, single occurrence issue.  What I have learned on AR, since 2001: 1. The proper answer to: Where is the best place in town to get a steak dinner? is…You should go to Mel's Diner and get the fried chicken. 2. Big game animals can tell the difference between .015 of an inch in diameter, 15 grains of bullet weight, and 150 fps. 3. There is a difference in the performance of two identical projectiles launched at the same velocity if they came from different cartridges. 4. While a double rifle is the perfect DGR, every 375HH bolt gun needs to be modified to carry at least 5 down. 5. While a floor plate and detachable box magazine both use a mechanical latch, only the floor plate latch is reliable. Disregard the fact that every modern military rifle uses a detachable box magazine. 6. The Remington 700 is unreliable regardless of the fact it is the basis of the USMC M40 sniper rifle for 40+ years with no changes to the receiver or extractor and is the choice of more military and law enforcement sniper units than any other rifle. 7. PF actions are not suitable for a DGR and it is irrelevant that the M1, M14, M16, & AK47 which were designed for hunting men that can shoot back are all PF actions. 8. 95 deg F in Africa is different than 95 deg F in TX or CA and that is why you must worry about ammunition temperature in Africa (even though most safaris take place in winter) but not in TX or in CA. 9. The size of a ding in a gun's finish doesn't matter, what matters is whether it’s a safe ding or not. 10. 1 in a row is a trend, 2 in a row is statistically significant, and 3 in a row is an irrefutable fact. 11. Never buy a WSM or RCM cartridge for a safari rifle or your go to rifle in the USA because if they lose your ammo you can't find replacement ammo but don't worry 280 Rem, 338-06, 35 Whelen, and all Weatherby cartridges abound in Africa and back country stores. 12. A well hit animal can run 75 yds. in the open and suddenly drop with no initial blood trail, but the one I shot from 200 yds. away that ran 10 yds. and disappeared into a thicket and was not found was lost because the bullet penciled thru. I am 100% certain of this even though I have no physical evidence. 13. A 300 Win Mag is a 500 yard elk cartridge but a 308 Win is not a 300 yard elk cartridge even though the same bullet is travelling at the same velocity at those respective distances. | |||
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Absolutely not. Don't you know, African game is not made of flesh and bone, and you need special kryptonite bullets to kill plains game? Seriously, I have killed BWB with a 250 Savage using Nosler 100 grain bullets, pass through. As someone else said, just pick your shots and practice from sticks. Avoid frontal, angling frontal, and departing shots, and you will be fine. Puncture both lungs and the animal will die, quickly. I would even recommend backing off on the velocity, to around 2400 no more. My kid killed 5 animals with 6 shots with a 7mm08 using plain old Hornady 152 (IMS) grain softs this season. The BWB took two shots but he was already dead before the second one was fired, he ran about 150 and then just stood there while we finished him. Everything else dropped within 5 yards of where it stood. Russ Gould - Whitworth Arms LLC BigfiveHQ.com, Large Calibers and African Safaris Doublegunhq.com, Fine English, American and German Double Rifles and Shotguns VH2Q.com, Varmint Rifles and Gear | |||
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