Based upon the implication and presumption that Jeff Wemmer only takes frontal brain shots and never misses, I hope he fills in a few blanks for us mere mortals:

465 H&H quote:
[In my opinion you are more likey to muck up a frontal shot]

And the (comedic) reply:

[Yes, if you are 50 yards away and haven't taken sufficient time to study the animal's anatomy and practiced shooting quite a bit!]

Now I have never met or known of a guy that never misses a frontal brain shot. And I have only met a few guys that have ever really brained an elephant in an honest-to-God charge. Knocked them out, yeah, but brained them dead, no. And those successful brain shots were a rare occurrence. Show me the video of an actual brained killed elephant in a charge.

But Jeff, now here is a man's man. For even in a charge, he has time to study the elephant's anatomy. He then takes a couple practice shots before the elephant is actually close enough to shoot, as it is just unsporting to shoot a charging elephant at over six yards.

If my recollection is correct, every charging elephant is dropped at six yards. Not ten, not five, not eight, but at six yards.

If Jeff waits for the charging beast to reach six yards, is there normally time to show the shot placement instructional video to the rookies?

Now if one is shooting at a snoozing old bull that is unaware of what day it is, then a bit of time is available to review the situation, pick out a shot that will, in the least, knock the poor old blighter down, then there is probably time for the Docharri shot placement guide, the African Munter shot placement guide, and either do the shot placement flip chart, or if handy time for a few dry-erase shot placement sketches on a camo white board.

I hope there is time for Jeff to review the elephant's anatomy when Jeff is just moseying along in the bush and an irate elephant cow decides she doesn't like the cut of his new gaiters.

I just want to know how Jeff can get it done. I was never that confident in a charge. Hopefully he can point the way to true knowledge and spiritual awareness.

I hope Jeff takes this discussion as a basis for developing a frontal shot placement white paper, and in the spirit in which it is suggested.

But I am afraid that I may have backed myself into a conflict of interest and I will assume this analysis will have eliminated me from the Wemmer Field Testing Team.

[Just kidding.]

All of this ranting just because another man chooses to make a competing pair of gaiters?

Good point. I'm petty!

When I get my camera back I'll post a pic next week of my new Air Gaiters.

(Comedic response in fun)

Will,

Truthfully, I have never been to Africa and have always been jealous of your stature within the hunting and AR fraternity. I am a PURE phony - you got me! Those TV shows we've done were all shot at the same studio as those fake Lunar landing missions back in the 60s & 70s.

The only videos I can show you of frontal shots I've made are from my younger days as an adult entertainment star, but heck, that's boring stuff compared to your illustrious exploits, right!

Yes I am a man's man, thank you very much! Heck, at 5 foot 3 inches, 138 pounds I feel pretty gamey...Why just the other day I actually did get to 20 push-ups (before collapsing and requiring medical attention). In fac=t, I've whoop'd the snot out of more than one wet paper bag!! Darn-right I'm a man's man!!!

Awh...But yet again, reality sets back in and I must digress...

...There have been those whiskey soaked nights where while working on my "Elephant anatomy" flip-charts I drift off into a druken stupor. I just sit there, eyes glazed & dreaming of what it must be like to have the poanache and vast experience that my hero Will posesses. By the grace of god, my bride comes to the rescue and tucks me into bed saying these ever so soothing words over and over, lulling me into a peaceful slumber; "Will is not more of a man than you, Will is not more of a man than you.....".

But, each day I awaken and sigh. I look over my vast million acre expanse of flowing oil wells and stout well-bred livestock, but I am still saddened. Not even opening my 20,000 sq. foot gun valut full of vintage double rifles snd pairs of small bore high-graqde guns can break the spell! A quick spin in the Bougatti, or a short hop over to Vegas in my G-550, or 7X helps, but no, I'm still who, or what I am...Just a shadow of Will's.

Why, just last christmas in an attempt to cheer me up, my children pooled their school lunch money and bought me an Elephant hide belt and wallet from their favorite e-commerce site; "ARBAY". (they said they got excellent customer service by the way) I was ecstatic, but then that lingering melancholy set back in. Gosh, if only I had Will's, well, let's just say "will". Then maybe I could get exceited about some ramschackle POS Velcro wannabe gaiters and live a life of ignorant bliss - just like Will!!!

Ahhh-ha-ha!!!

DISCLAIMER: I have ZERO animosity towards Will or any other member on this forum, but if we are going to play "sarcasam roulette"...Let'r roll - I LOVE it!!!

More please more

ROFL... I literally have tears streaming from my eyes as I read the back and forth! Such witty repartee.

Ok, ok, I AM easily amused.

""...Those TV shows we've done were all shot at the same studio as those fake Lunar landing...

No wonder Walter kept saying "the trees look the same, the elephants look the same and the people look the same as in the other videos

And the " SUN" has a ball.

Y'all know that making me laugh this hard after surgery is painful?

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""...Those TV shows we've done were all shot at the same studio as those fake Lunar landing...

No wonder Walter kept saying "the trees look the same, the elephants look the same and the people look the same as in the other videos

Damn that Walter - he sees everything!!!

Saeed, what happened to those payments I made to you to have Walter left at some remote communal village to serve as tribal leader - don't tell me you spent it on Iguana control AGAIN!!!

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Originally posted by Will:
Good point. I'm petty!

When I get my camera back I'll post a pic next week of my new Air Gaiters.

well, at least you recognize it- that's always the first step towards getting help. and BTW, i thought it was illegal to sell products made from the skin( or any other body part for that matter)of any animal killed on a sport hunting license. can someone enlighten me about that issue?

no dog in this fight, but I doubt the cotton in Will's gaiters was killed on a sport hunting license. If it is American cotton it wouldn't be subject to the Lacey Act either.

[/QUOTE] i thought it was illegal to sell products made from the skin( or any other body part for that matter)of any animal killed on a sport hunting license. can someone enlighten me about that issue?[/QUOTE]

I contacted USFWS regarding bartering some elephant hide for which I have the CITIES. They told me that it was mine to do as I wished... trade, sell, anything. I requested that they send me written confirmation of this and they did.

that's good to know. so when i am dead and gone, my wife can sell the full body mount of my leopard without any problem, even if she decides to chop it up and sell pieces of hide, claws, skull, etc. separately. BTW i wasn't thinking about gaiters in the post above-thinking about other items listed here that are made from pieces of CITES animals. i have to wonder though why it is illegal to sell the gall bladder from a bear you legally kill.

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Originally posted by jdollar:
that's good to know. so when i am dead and gone, my wife can sell the full body mount of my leopard without any problem, even if she decides to chop it up and sell pieces of hide, claws, skull, etc. separately. BTW i wasn't thinking about gaiters in the post above-thinking about other items listed here that are made from pieces of CITES animals. i have to wonder though why it is illegal to sell the gall bladder from a bear you legally kill.

She can sell it piecemeal over here, the "witch doctors" pay top dollar. The Zulu Elders also make shoulder wraps, but they would expect it to be donated, FREE

Rusty, did they remove or fix-up broken stuff?

Jeff: Thank you for taking the time to talk with me, on the phone, last Friday regarding my elk hunt.

Jeff: Maybe you should write a book? How about "Elephants and Lunar Landings"?

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Originally posted by infinito:
Jeff: Maybe you should write a book? How about "Elephants and Lunar Landings"?

. . . or become the media director for the Obama team. Most of the stuff they say is made up too.

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Originally posted by MJines:

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Originally posted by infinito:
Jeff: Maybe you should write a book? How about "Elephants and Lunar Landings"?

. . . or become the media director for the Obama team. Most of the stuff they say is made up too.

.................................BINGO!