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Having just returned from Benin I suspect that many safaris are sold without a competent PH and therefore the hunt is very much self guided and reliant on local trackers. In my limited experience I would say that these individuals although good bushmen are not competent nor qualified. Fine for the well equipped accomplished hunter who has hunted Africa and who is street wise. But for rest of us is this a wise decision? ROYAL KAFUE LTD Email - kafueroyal@gmail.com Tel/Whatsapp (00260) 975315144 Instagram - kafueroyal | ||
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Assuming they the hunter is aware of the situation and not sold something else.. Wise decision in relation to what? Personal safety? Possibly but that can be an issue even when hunting is not involved. Hunting without a guide in Alaska can be very dangerous and I have worked in parts of the world that would make Benin seem like visiting Paris.. Egypt or Nigeria for example... Hunting Success? No doubt having a PH knowledgeable in that area would be an advantage but not necessary.. Hunting laws and proper game identification? This would be my concern but ultimately is it not the hunters responsibility if the law is violated? If I spoke fluent French I would do a self-guided hunt. I think it would be a great adventure and after all - it's all about the adventure isn't it?? "At least once every human being should have to run for his life - to teach him that milk does not come from the supermarket, that safety does not come from policemen, and that news is not something that happens to other people." - Robert Heinlein | |||
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Thanks and good response. The adventure aspect could quickly turn to misadventure? Then it would be wise to have a competent mate along with you. Something like that? I remember once having to Mediavac a client out of a swamp and this took half a dozen responsible and competent individuals to make it happen. In the end I had to do everything myself which included rescue, medical, insurance etc. Not sure your non English speaking villager can do that when you are hurting and broken down in some remote backwater. ROYAL KAFUE LTD Email - kafueroyal@gmail.com Tel/Whatsapp (00260) 975315144 Instagram - kafueroyal | |||
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Absolutely true! Two experiences hunters / adventurers that both speak fluent French might be a REALLY good idea!! "At least once every human being should have to run for his life - to teach him that milk does not come from the supermarket, that safety does not come from policemen, and that news is not something that happens to other people." - Robert Heinlein | |||
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That means back to school. Sacrebleu... Kinda similar here in MT. Many out of state hunters think, elk are running everywhere. Well, surprise! Not so... You can go several times before you learn the country and habits of local game. I'd go with good reputable PH, and I'm very confident and capable hunter, in very good physical condition, travel wise for decades and can track some. Being street smart means exactly that. " Until the day breaks and the nights shadows flee away " Big ivory for my pillow and 2.5% of Neanderthal DNA flowing thru my veins. When I'm ready to go, pack a bag of gunpowder up my ass and strike a fire to my pecker, until I squeal like a boar. Yours truly , Milan The Boarkiller - World according to Milan PS I have big boar on my floor...but it ain't dead, just scared to move... Man should be happy and in good humor until the day he dies... Only fools hope to live forever “ Hávamál” | |||
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Having a wife and kids that depend on me, I would insist on having a PH. You cannot tell me that your risk factor of harm or injury would not substantially rise by going self guided. In the states yes, I always go self guided. However, being in another country whose laws, customs, and traditions I am not familiar with would be better spent with a PH IMO! | |||
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A sat phone is therefore invaluable. A booklet of simple French phrases is worthwhile or invite a French tart along as a translator? But what to do with her when you are not hunting? ROYAL KAFUE LTD Email - kafueroyal@gmail.com Tel/Whatsapp (00260) 975315144 Instagram - kafueroyal | |||
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self guided hunts in a central African French speaking country can be a bit of a challenge( see my Cameroon hunt report from last april) but is certainly doable. mainly it just takes a positive, can-do attitude. i managed to pull it off at age 66 with absolutely no gear or clothes( thanks again Air France).....i did have a translator app on my iPhone, but never used it Vote Trump- Putin’s best friend… To quote a former AND CURRENT Trumpiteer - DUMP TRUMP | |||
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Fairgame, would that be lemon or chocolate? Dutch | |||
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Jerry you are different and just the sort who can do this one up. ROYAL KAFUE LTD Email - kafueroyal@gmail.com Tel/Whatsapp (00260) 975315144 Instagram - kafueroyal | |||
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Hmm.. If we coupled the "no clothes" with the "French Tart" it would make for an interesting hunt report.. :-) "At least once every human being should have to run for his life - to teach him that milk does not come from the supermarket, that safety does not come from policemen, and that news is not something that happens to other people." - Robert Heinlein | |||
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i was so tired every night that a French tart would have gone to waste- and i like to eat tasty pastries  Vote Trump- Putin’s best friend… To quote a former AND CURRENT Trumpiteer - DUMP TRUMP | |||
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Benin or Burkina is definitely on my bucket list and while it would be super cool to DIY, I would definitely use a qualified PH.. Wouldn't mind the French Tart though - have to write that into the hunt contract... :-) "At least once every human being should have to run for his life - to teach him that milk does not come from the supermarket, that safety does not come from policemen, and that news is not something that happens to other people." - Robert Heinlein | |||
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No mate you pick that up in Duty Free in Paris en route. ROYAL KAFUE LTD Email - kafueroyal@gmail.com Tel/Whatsapp (00260) 975315144 Instagram - kafueroyal | |||
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you find them in CDG right next to the caviar and champagne vendor :roll eyes: Andrew, PM sent Vote Trump- Putin’s best friend… To quote a former AND CURRENT Trumpiteer - DUMP TRUMP | |||
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Andrew, You are just full of good ideas today! Ran the French tart idea past the wife. She is usually pretty supportive and understanding about my misadventures, but that -- would be a no. | |||
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From what I have hear, those who do take tarts with them to Africa, French or other nationalities, hardly;y ever do any hunting. I somehow don't think this is what Andrew had in mind though. 40 years ago, being single and free with time, this is the sort of thing I might have gone on. But, at 65 and a family to care for, one's ideas of coming back home safely takes precedence. | |||
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Seems like a great book -- anonymous of course -- "Ph's on Tarts" -- I've heard some hilarious stories and I'm sure it is just the tip of the iceberg. | |||
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Lavaca, Inform her you were misinformed and I was referring to petit dessert. Something you can divulge in after dinner. In addition Roan are a bargain. ROYAL KAFUE LTD Email - kafueroyal@gmail.com Tel/Whatsapp (00260) 975315144 Instagram - kafueroyal | |||
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Saeed, We were informed by a French PH that sadly this is the norm. Although he was not much better and confined to his chalet what could be best described as a school girl. ROYAL KAFUE LTD Email - kafueroyal@gmail.com Tel/Whatsapp (00260) 975315144 Instagram - kafueroyal | |||
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Andrew, I have first hand knowledge of an older woman, who paid for the safari for her toyboy! He wanted to shoot a lion, but was not prepared to pay for the bait animals. He wasn't much of a shot either - I suppose we should have known that from what he had picked for a girl friend He was told to shoot a kudu cow for bait, missed it, and shot a bull standing 5 yards to the side!! As you can imagine, the PH went ballistic  | |||
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Do you have the number of the older woman? ROYAL KAFUE LTD Email - kafueroyal@gmail.com Tel/Whatsapp (00260) 975315144 Instagram - kafueroyal | |||
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Having seen the gorgeous young man she was with, I am not sure she will give you second look | |||
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The PH might be able to help out with this. _________________________________ AR, where the hopeless, hysterical hypochondriacs of history become the nattering nabobs of negativisim. | |||
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By the way, there are several single french lady hunters you could meet at the Salon de la Chasse this April. My competency ends at the introductions. _________________________________ AR, where the hopeless, hysterical hypochondriacs of history become the nattering nabobs of negativisim. | |||
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That's awesome!
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Address please? White Mountains Arizona | |||
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Skinner? | |||
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do a search in the discounted hunts forum here and check for Cam Greig. he is the organizer for self guided Cameroon hunts Vote Trump- Putin’s best friend… To quote a former AND CURRENT Trumpiteer - DUMP TRUMP | |||
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Andrew, That would be a good plan except for the fact that my wife has been around too many PH's of British persuasion such that she knows exactly what a "tart" is -- and isn't. But based on these responses, I still think an anonymous book would be hilarious. There is a great story that's been around about two camps from different safari companies on opposite sides of the Ruaha River in the Selous, a couple of miles apart, the Russian "translator," sunbathing and the missing optics. Those involved know who you are. I've heard both sides, no pun intended and was there the next week. The stories from either side of the river are a bit different, but mesh well and make it even funnier. That's it Andrew; I just came up with it. They are "translators" not "tarts". | |||
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i have seen some in CAR that came for hunting and didnt even left Bangui Novotel and it was not only french hunters ... | |||
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Andrew, depending on operators you may be able to find PHs in BF and Benin, will they have the same level as their easterner or southerner fellows i do not know how the ACP is giving the tag name those days .... Phil | |||
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There are several stories about Russian Translators along the Ruaha. I followed them in a camp. Cameras are wonderful. This was before every phone had a camera. Taken on the sly they were. | |||
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