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For those who are very familiar with shooting double rifles - what is the quickest method to get four quick shots from a double? I have a non ejector and I have no problem with this but need a bit advice on the best methods to quickly reload. To be honest the holding of spare cartridges between fingers feels awkward and they could easily be dislodged under recoil? Is there a cartridge holder that fits on the non trigger hand or arm etc? If I can get to fire four shots quicker than my bolt action then I will 'carry' the double rather than reserving it for the two quick shot scenario. ROYAL KAFUE LTD Email - kafueroyal@gmail.com Tel/Whatsapp (00260) 975315144 Instagram - kafueroyal | ||
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Fairgame I'll take a shot at your question, because I've been going through a lot of cartridges this spring shooting my .470. 1) Shoot the rear trigger first, then the front trigger. 2) I use a Murray leather shell pouch, but any good one will work, positioned on my right hip. Opposite hip if you're a lefty. 3) Mindset: You only need four shots unless you're first three don't get the job done. 4) You of course know that in your line of work, but I state that because it allows me to go back to point one. 5) The rear trigger allows you to have more accuracy, because the trigger pull most clearly duplicates that of your standard bolt action rifle which you're more familiar with. So why not try to make the most accurate shot possible, with the first shot? 6) Mindset #2. It's not the cumulative amount of lead you throw. It's the accuracy of the lead thrown. 7) Don't rush the four shots, just because you can shoot four quick shots. Don't throw out four "prayers". Try to make each one count. Let's continue. 8) Tuck your shirt in whenever shooting a double which allows you easiest access to your shell pouch. No need to be fumbling, reaching underneath your shirt to get ahold of your cartridges. 9) Do not hold two additional cartridges, in your left (off trigger) hand, or in your mouth. That's not the way one normally shoots, so when one does that he breaks routine and formula which can be toxic to accuracy with a double rifle. 10) Bang! Back Trigger First. Bang! Front Trigger Second. 11) Snap your gun open, tilt it back, and pull your spent cartridges out using your hands, fingernails or whatever method you normally utilize. Sometimes they'll just ease on out themselves, if you apply just a touch of gun oil in those first three inches of your barrel where your cartridges lie. 12) Buy a six cartridge shell holder, but only load the two sleeves (shell cylinders) on each end. Why? Because ergonomically, it allows your fingers better access and a reference point, when reaching down to grab ahold of your cartridges. 13) I'm presuming you're talking life or death situation here, so every mili-second is important. With the open space in the middle of your shell holder, you know right where the other cartridges are. 14) With one motion, grab two with your right hand, but don't split your fingers. Grab them such using your thumb, index and middle finger. Human motor skills have provided those three fingers with the best sensory functions in our hands. (You never see anyone smoking with their little finger and their ring finger.) 15) So by using just those three fingers to grab your next two cartridges, you'll be able to reload as quickly as possible. 16) You might even be able to load both cartridges at the same time. But any way you can, get them into the gun! 17) Did you know the spacing of cartridges in your .470 Murray Leather shell pouch, is supposed to duplicate the spacing between your barrels, in the event you grab them two at a time needing an immediate double load into your gun? Well, that is true. And there you have it fairgame, the quickest way on earth to shoot four accurate shots from a double rifle. But knowing the way you shoot, that charging mbogo is gonna be dead after the first shot! | |||
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Sabletrail, Thanks for all that. Has nobody made a glove or arm band that will hold two rounds? As the left hand or forearm is very close to the breach this would seem quite obvious? If not then let us design one? ROYAL KAFUE LTD Email - kafueroyal@gmail.com Tel/Whatsapp (00260) 975315144 Instagram - kafueroyal | |||
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There a couple of wrist bands that hold two rounds. I bought one and did not like it. My wife made one for me using beer koozies, it is tapered to fit my wrist and forearm and has two shellholders. It served me well while in Tanzania while using a Ruger No. 1. However I do not like it for the double. I have found it faster to load basically like Sable trail described, except I squeeze the front trigger first and never have pull the empties out by hand. This a video of how I learned. 470 K-Gun, full house loads. I posted on the DR forum a while back, so apologies if you have seen it before. http://s135.photobucket.com/al...70Nitro200-09-19.flv | |||
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Thanks Mike and also for the PM. Our server is very slow here so I am not able to watch your clip. Any advantages to front trigger pull and note this is how I fire mine as I find it easier to slip back the finger to the second trigger? With two triggers do you know anyone who has tried a double discharge with reliable accuracy? Trouble is at $20 per round I am finding it an expensive toy to practice with. No problem with the first two shots but really want to be much faster with the next two. ROYAL KAFUE LTD Email - kafueroyal@gmail.com Tel/Whatsapp (00260) 975315144 Instagram - kafueroyal | |||
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Go to Midwayusa site and look at Thompson Center Wrist Rifle Ammunition Carrier-2 Round Product # 563878. Manufacturer # 8009. That might work for you. BUTCH C'est Tout Bon (It is all good) | |||
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Fairgame, I am sure you have heard this before... If you are that close that your life is in imminent danger then you should be holding your first shot until the 10 yard line, you then fire one shot for the brain getting yourself on as close to level with the brain plain as possible. If you have hit the brain then you will have an animal sliding to a stop at your feet with a second shot to finish. If you missed you will either be dead or would be firing your second barrel at point blank or evading a stunned animal with the intention of taking the first safe shot opportunity that presents itself. This rule should apply to the person that is the target of the animals charge. If you are the second gun then your first shot should also have been fired at 10 yards with the second either at a departing animal or held in reserve to fire a close range brain shot at someone who is being gored or finishing the animal as it turns to come back. Going back to your question I don't think there is any 4 shot scenario where a double can be as easily and reliably used to defend your life as a good bolt gun in the hands of a well practiced marksman. If I were to design a 2 round holster it would be on the back of the hand with two rounds held a fingers height off the back of the hand and a fingers width apart, in metal spring clips similar to old shotgun shell holders. The back of the rounds would protrude about an inch off the bottom edge of the hand. As per what Moja said, the rifle is broken whilst being raised to tip or lever the rounds out, as they come out the right hand moves to the back of the left hand holding the forearm of the rifle. The middle finger goes between the two rounds whilst fingers 2 and 4 clamp them. With a down and away motion the rounds are unclipped and then brough over the top to load straight into the chambers. It might help to design it in a way that one round is positioned 1cm back from the other, it that way you could load one round first whilst guiding the second into the second chamber with a roll over of the hand. This would eliminate the problem of trying to steer two rounds to find their mark at exactly the same time, it would also give you a slight window from the side to steer 1 into the chamber with 2 to follow. This of course all becomes useless in anything other than a normal stance etc. I have tried an practiced this idea a lot with a 470, my final take, if it needs 4 rounds, use a bolt gun. | |||
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Butch, I have one of the TC wristbands. Fairgame, If you want to try one PM me your address I will mail it to you. It may even make it to Zim who knows. | |||
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Front trigger first is the way I have learned and is more comfortable. There are those who say the rifle is regulated to be fired that way, although for your purpose it probably would make no difference. | |||
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Thanks Ian, Note in our business we normally shoot to back up or the follow up of wounded game and by then we are dealing with a completely different animal, one that is pumped with adrenaline and can absorb quite a bit of lead. My way of thinking is that if you can master shooting four quicker than a bolt action then the double would be a better carry gun? I am more interested in the fast feeding possibilities than the attributes of the bolt action. Cheers ROYAL KAFUE LTD Email - kafueroyal@gmail.com Tel/Whatsapp (00260) 975315144 Instagram - kafueroyal | |||
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Mike, That if very kind of you and note I am in Zambia? Bit like Zim but better. Pop in anytime. Will send you a PM with an address. How much do I owe you? ROYAL KAFUE LTD Email - kafueroyal@gmail.com Tel/Whatsapp (00260) 975315144 Instagram - kafueroyal | |||
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Buy a good magazine rifle ???? (re-annointed bolt trash'er) | |||
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I have a couple but use the double when expecting a charge. Take for example a wounded Lion and fine you double tap him and what about his energetic lady friend or brother. Thing is with bolt actions you cannot double tap and there is the possibility of a jam or misfire. But this thread is not about the merits of a magazine rifle. ROYAL KAFUE LTD Email - kafueroyal@gmail.com Tel/Whatsapp (00260) 975315144 Instagram - kafueroyal | |||
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Fairgame: Sabletrail is right on and I have always shot the rear trigger first and have been doing so since 1989 for the same reason--a more accurate first shot. I use the same cartridge loops Mark Sullivan recommends--the open bottom so the fingers can push the round up and well as pull from the top. I pinch the rim and use my middle finger or forth finger to push up and this is a habit now for 20 years. It is very quick. The story of holding cartridges between the fingers of the front hand became popular with Capstick (I think) but I have never seen it done or read of it being done in the old days. It is nearly impossible to hold with any certainty two large caliber cartridges in this manner. In Out of Africa, Robert Redford held the cartridges this way but with his trigger hand when the lion was charging! Cheers, Cal _______________________________ Cal Pappas, Willow, Alaska www.CalPappas.com www.CalPappas.blogspot.com 1994 Zimbabwe 1997 Zimbabwe 1998 Zimbabwe 1999 Zimbabwe 1999 Namibia, Botswana, Zambia--vacation 2000 Australia 2002 South Africa 2003 South Africa 2003 Zimbabwe 2005 South Africa 2005 Zimbabwe 2006 Tanzania 2006 Zimbabwe--vacation 2007 Zimbabwe--vacation 2008 Zimbabwe 2012 Australia 2013 South Africa 2013 Zimbabwe 2013 Australia 2016 Zimbabwe 2017 Zimbabwe 2018 South Africa 2018 Zimbabwe--vacation 2019 South Africa 2019 Botswana 2019 Zimbabwe vacation 2021 South Africa 2021 South Africa (2nd hunt a month later) ______________________________ | |||
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Thanks Cal, I think that if we are talking close contact then both barrels should be pretty much point of aim? But will take your advice. I have seen MS hold cartridges like this in his left hand whilst supporting the fore end and he must have sticky fingers as he seemed quite comfortable with this technique, however probably just for show. Also noted that quite a few wear gloves and is this also just for show or does it improve handling of the firearm? ROYAL KAFUE LTD Email - kafueroyal@gmail.com Tel/Whatsapp (00260) 975315144 Instagram - kafueroyal | |||
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Talk to Ganyana. He has a lot of experience in this regards. If I remember he once told about a shooting comp where bolt action rifles shot against a guy with a double. The double won hands down in speed even when he had to reload... Guess it all goes about practice and muscle memory when the chips are down. Gerhard FFF Safaris Capture Your African Moments Hunting Outfitter (MP&LP) Proffesional Hunter (MP&LP) History guide Wildlife Photographer www.fffsafaris.co.za | |||
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That is worth printing and memorising.Thank you for posting this. Best- Locksley,R "Early in the morning, at break of day, in all the freshness and dawn of one's strength, to read a book - I call that vicious!"- Friedrich Nietzsche | |||
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Fairgame: Regarding gloves--- 1) Fellas wear gloves when shooting doubles because they want to protect their fancy wood. Does perspiration from sweaty palms really damage shiny circassian walnut? No! The guns are built for toughness, and so what if your pistol grip, forend or engraving gets a little dull or nicked up from time to time. It's an African dangerous game rifle for damn sakes, not a museum exhibit! On that thought I gotta admit I've seen some PH double rifles over the years that could certainly use a good cleaning. FUNNY STORY FAIRGAME: In Tanzania in '07 whilst hunting with Gerard Miller, I sneaked his double in my tent one evening and cleaned it, then gave it back to his lead tracker to place in his Land Rover that night. The next morning when he pulled it out of his gun case to lead me on a walkup to a wounded buffalo, he was horrified and screamed out in anger because it looked so clean! The dirtier those PH stopping guns get you know, the better they perform. I laughed so hard that day. Gerard was so bloody mad that I cleaned his gun. Anyway back to gloves--- 2) The other reason fellas wear gloves, principally on their trigger hand, is to provide protection between their index and middle fingers. Who hasn't endured that trigger guard recoil pain when shooting the front trigger? What better way to provide some padding in the finger split area, by wearing a glove. I'm okay with that, but I think the trigger fingertip section of the glove should be cutoff, so the shooter always has a direct contact point with the trigger. Better yet, use weightlifting/workout type gloves, where all the finger tips are exposed. That type of glove can also offer you a comforting palm swell. That's another reason why I shoot the back trigger first. It's easier on the hands, and reduces that pain you get when you shoot your front trigger. Often times as a client you only get one shot at the animal with your double, because he embarks on an escape route, turning back into the rest of the herd. Shoot the back trigger first. It's more accurate and less painful. By the time you execute the insurance shot, you'll have reloaded. Shoot the rear trigger first again. 3) The other reason I think guys wear gloves is to make their hands bigger to get a better grip on the gun. This problem however, can be eliminated in the gunfitting process. Any good gunsmith can sand the wood down on the stock or forend, to reduce the thickness so it fits your hands better. For the gloved ones out there, why do you wear white gloves? Wouldn't it be better to wear a dark colored glove? | |||
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Moja, I always thought gloves were a little theatrical and I will save mine for a cold snap. Really good advice on the back trigger and yes I now can get three shots off very quickly and I am happy with that. Thanks exactly what I was looking for. ROYAL KAFUE LTD Email - kafueroyal@gmail.com Tel/Whatsapp (00260) 975315144 Instagram - kafueroyal | |||
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"Theatrical" is an appropriate way to describe it. I don't think the glove ever really helped Michael Jackson sing better, but it sure looked good. You remember back in the day don't you Fairgame, when everybody walked around Zambia wearing a white glove on their hand? I'll admit I even donned one back during my clubbing days. Thought I was so cool--- | |||
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I've seen a cartridge holder, though only on TV, that attached to either the barrel or the stock of a T/C single shot rifle. Could something like this be made for a double rifle, if it even works well on a T/C? Robert If we can prevent the government from wasting the labors of the people, under the pretense of taking care of them, they must become happy. Thomas Jefferson, 1802 | |||
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Fairgame, here goes with what works for "ME"! In your roll as PH I see the need for this in a charge or follow-up. However those two things are not the only place where the shots three and four are sorely needed even by the client hunter as well. This is because he as much responsibility to stop the animal hurting himself or some one else as does the PH. Additionally to stop the animal getting into the long grass where a follow-up is very dangerous, no matter who is doing the follow-up. My take is when you fire the first two, and he is either running for cover, or for you, shots three and four need to be quick, and on target. First let me say that I'm right handed, and that I load with my left hand whether from a carrier on the point of my “LEFT “ hip , or from the cartridge carrier on the back my right hand (I don't like the wrist carriers) with my trigger hand never leaving the grip on the rifle’s pistol grip at the triggers. It can be done even quicker this way if the rifle has ejectors, or is a rifle with less recoil, or both. My 9.3X74R Merkel has ejectors and less recoil so is quicker. With my 470NE double being an extractor rifle like yours, when I break the rifle after the second shot I simply raise the rifle “muzzle up” to dump the two empties. The next two cartridges are on the back of my right hand on the back of a modified glove, with the rims facing up. With my left hand, I simply pull both cartridges with the rims between my thumb, and fore-finger like the avatar on my posts or the picture at the bottom of this post, and drop both simultaneously into the chambers, and close the rifle, and fire rounds three and four. These cartridges (three and four) being only 4 inches from the chambers, you don’t have to take your eyes off the target while loading shots three and four. The way I load my rifle for carry is with a soft in the right barrel, and a solid in the left. I fire the front trigger first, with the first shot being a soft to do initial damage, followed by the solid. The two on the back of my hand are both solids, and all subsequent rounds are solids. This would change to all softs if I were hunting lion! I took a common glove with a Velcro wrist strap, and cut away all the fingers except the one for the middle finger. That one I only cut off the finger past the first knuckle, this leaves the back of the glove suspended between the middle finger and the wrist of the right hand. I sewed loops onto the back of the glove to hold two rounds. With this little gadget I can get off four shots in four seconds or less with my extractor 470NE Merkel with all being on target at 25 yards or under! No matter how one does this it takes practice to get it down to muscle memory and become a thing done with out thinking. How you do the re-load the quickest, and still hit what you are aiming at, that is the best for “YOU”! There are many good ways of doing this and not all work for everyone. ....Mac >>>===(x)===> MacD37, ...and DUGABOY1 DRSS Charter member "If I die today, I've had a life well spent, for I've been to see the Elephant, and smelled the smoke of Africa!"~ME 1982 Hands of Old Elmer Keith  | |||
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I haven't used gloves when shooting my double yet, but that will change. I often wear gloves while hunting because a) it gets cold in Alberta and b) I get all kinds of stuff stuck in my hands when crawling without gloves on. Dean ...I say that hunters go into Paradise when they die, and live in this world more joyfully than any other men. -Edward, Duke of York | |||
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Hi Mac, Would not worry about others and for the most it is all hot air. Opinions vary greatly here and this is generally what forums are about. Great so you made a half glove that works well. Can you post a photo of it? Maybe its position when you are breaking your gun? If you would rather - send me a PM and I will give you my email address. Thanks again. ROYAL KAFUE LTD Email - kafueroyal@gmail.com Tel/Whatsapp (00260) 975315144 Instagram - kafueroyal | |||
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This all started when I was using a pair of machanic's to combat the cold in winter. This glove is thin and doesnt' bother my working the triggers at all, and has a velcro wrist closier. This closier leaves a gap in the back of the glove forward of the wrist. While sitting in a blind I simply placed two rounds in this gap, with the rims sticking out of the glove accross the back of my right hand. It worked so well that I decided to make a fixture that would work even better, hence the modified leather glove. I'll get some pictures of this thing and get someone with more computer skill to post them here. My son might get them to you in an E-mail! ....Mac >>>===(x)===> MacD37, ...and DUGABOY1 DRSS Charter member "If I die today, I've had a life well spent, for I've been to see the Elephant, and smelled the smoke of Africa!"~ME 1982 Hands of Old Elmer Keith | |||
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I'm not saying in anyway that Sable Trail is wrong in how he shoots or reloads but it is entirely opposite of what I find the quickest and surest way to reload. I always fire the front trigger first as it is a much more natural action for me to move back to the rear trigger for the second shot rather than the reverse. Also so far I have never had a problem with my finger dragging on the rear trigger from recoil on the first shot. I think the common reason for this is that some shooters use the joint of their trigger finger instead of the pad of the trigger finger. The former way puts the finger closer to the rear trigger. I carry my spare rounds in a Westley Richards culling belt with the ammo on my left side. The first round in the belt is just behind my pants belt buckle. I leave an empty loop after the first two rounds to make it easier to get to the first two. I don't like to have anything on the right side of my belt. After over 25 years of reaching for a spare mag on my left side when reloading my 1911 it is second nature for me to reach to the left side for spare ammo. I try to reduce my noise signature to a minimum at all times. If you carry spare ammo on the right side (right handed shooter) then you will be bumping the spare cartridges against your rifle when you carry it in the trail position. Not only does it mare your stock but it can make noise that you don't need to make. Remember silence is golden. Normally, I do not carry any rounds in my left hand except when approaching a herd of elephants or following a wounded animal. When I do, I carry two rounds as Mac shows in his avatar. For me it doesn't interfere with my shooting and they are quicker to get into the rifle then in any other carry position. You don't have to reach for them, they are there. I have never been able to shoot with gloves including duck hunting in cold weather so I have no experience with shooting with gloves. My suggestion is to try the various methods outlined here and select the one that works the best for you . 465H&H | |||
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465, Again good info and note I could not find any reference to this sort of thing on the net. I must say having tried the back trigger three shot plan as outlined by Moja and which works very well I am inclined to keep to this. I also am going to make a half glove as suggested by Mac and surely this is going to be quick. Just one more question - if you are holding cartridges as illustrated above then what sort of grip do you have on the fore end and does this complicate breaking the gun or removing sticky shells? ROYAL KAFUE LTD Email - kafueroyal@gmail.com Tel/Whatsapp (00260) 975315144 Instagram - kafueroyal | |||
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fairgame, I hold the fore end of the rifle with the thumb and next two fingers of my left hand. The last two fingers hold the cartridges and are placed between the rounds and the fore end. I suspect you will tear up the checkering if you place the cartridges against the forend from recoil. I haven't had any trouble breaking the action using this technique. I have enough strength to do that. I haven't tried it though with a bevertail fore end and getting a good grip with only three fingers may be a problem. If I had a sticky case, I would use my right hand to remove the stuck case. Another reason for using the front trigger first is that on most doubles the rear trigger pull weight is 2 to 4 lbs. heavier than the front trigger. Usually, the lighter the trigger pull the more accurate the shot. 465H&H | |||
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That is a good point 465H&H! I use the front trigger first almost always simply because that is the way I was tought, and because that is the way the maker regulates the rifles. However the gact that the front trigger is lighter makes it much more accurate in most cases. This is why I like a "set trigger" on the right barrel no matter the chambering. For the first shot on an undesturbed animal, or on paper, I always set the trigger for the first shot. The draw-back to having a set trigger on a large bore double rifle is accidently setting the trigger, and fireing the left barrel with the right trigger set. That is a guarenteed double discharge. Of the rifles I have that are equiped with set trigger on the rt barrel, I always use it set for the first shot. ....Mac >>>===(x)===> MacD37, ...and DUGABOY1 DRSS Charter member "If I die today, I've had a life well spent, for I've been to see the Elephant, and smelled the smoke of Africa!"~ME 1982 Hands of Old Elmer Keith | |||
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Some one once posted here on A/R a technique that I thought seems about perfect. As I recall it went like this: With a rifle made in the traditional manner for a right-handed shooter, where the forward trigger is made to be pulled first and causes the right bbl to be fired, while keeping your eyes on the tar- geted beast and after firing the second/left bbl, as the bbls are still raised from recoil, open the action by pushing the lever and then pushing the back of the wrist of the rifle down and forward. This typically points the muzzles further skyward, thereby decreasing the time it takes for the empties to be clear of the chambers. {Even absent ejectors this is an extremely fast method to ready the chambers for the reload.} Now, continuing as a right-handed shooter, keep the right hand in place ready to pull the triggers again, the left hand then releases from the rifle and the muzzles are brought to a slightly down- ward pointing angle under control of the right hand ONLY, while the left hand snatches two SxS secured rounds from loops on the back of the right hand glove. The rounds are pushed into the chambers fully with the left hand, NOT just started and allowed to drop the rest of the way in. (thus preventing a round from dropping to the ground by being poorly positiond and then released by the left hand) The left hand after pushing the rounds into the chambers continues moving toward the location on the forend where it is to be grasped. Once the left hand is grasping the forend the rifle is closed as it's being returned to the shoulder and the muzzles are being brought to bear on the targeted beast again. When on target the forward trigger is pulled and as soon as recovery from recoil is com- plete and the muzzles are on target for the forth time the rear trigger is pulled. Again reload immediately as above except that the next pair of rounds is drawn from the left side of the cartridge belt. Continue the process until the intended beast is in hand or unable to be targeted further. As I said, that's the way I recall it, and it still seems very sound to me. I shoot with snug fitting deer leather gloves from www.griffinhowe.com - I'm right-handed and the left glove protects my hand from bbl heat and sharp checkering. (Checkering should always be sharp.) Likewise the bbls and wood are protected from my skin oils and sweat. The right glove also protects me from sharp checkering, additionaly it protects my right middle finger from the impact of the trigger guard during recoil, and again the rifle is protected from my skin oils and sweat. The leather is from deer because if it gets wet it won't be stiff upon drying like cow leather will be. I see no negatives to wearing proper gloves and the positives are as stated. Jack OH GOD! {Seriously, we need the help.} | |||
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465H&H: I can easily see how your method is a workable one as well. Alot of what we're talking about boils down to plain ole' muscle memory. Our practice sessions have taught our shooting instincts consistency, and that's really what this is all about. No two golfers have exactly the same putting stance and stroke, but they all have the same goal---to put the ball in the cup. Most of the good golfers do a pretty good job at putting, yet no two have the same method. I totally get your idea to put your cartridges away from your shooting side to avoid clanking the gun on your ammo. I used to experience that with my method, then I just trained myself to carry the gun with my left hand on the left side of my body. We both share the same idea of leaving a couple cartridge loops/sleeves open, for a better reference point when you reach down to grab ahold of ammo to reload. I have ejectors so I shave off about a half second of time, than those who don't have ejectors, right? If you took the ten fastest most accurate four shot double rifle shooters in the world, and asked them to show us their skills, I bet all ten guys would do it differently. | |||
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Note my double is a fairly new aquisition and I am still learning here so it is not about teaching an old dog new tricks. The reason I aquired it was purely for the advantage of two quick shots at close quarters. However it seems a shame not to carry the thing so now I would be quite comfortable doing this full knowing that I could get off four quick shots. In all quite an education and thanks for all those who contributed. What I have learned here apart from the obvious is the following: 1. I am fairly certain now front trigger first for me as this is how I started shooting it and does seem more natural. I look at the double as having a back trigger not a front one as such and this is therefore my mindset. 2. A combination of wearing one half glove on the right hand that holds two rounds but also carry two rounds as described by 465 in the front hand when following up wounded or dangerous game. The latter works very well and has to be the quickest yet. Cartridges pushed not thrown in. 3. The quick three shot scenario relacing one spent cartridge at a time also has it's own merits and the half glove would also be invaluable here. However one would have to remember not to dump both cartridges when reloading. 4. A proper cartridge belt with shells in every other loop for quick extraction. Mid waist thus strapping in your shirt. Three others would be practice, practice and practice. Cheers ROYAL KAFUE LTD Email - kafueroyal@gmail.com Tel/Whatsapp (00260) 975315144 Instagram - kafueroyal | |||
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Good thread Andrew and good imput guys! What's your double Andrew? I just got one myself! Brett DRSS Life Member SCI Life Member NRA Life Member WSF Rhyme of the Sheep Hunter May fordings never be too deep, And alders not too thick; May rock slides never be too steep And ridges not too slick. And may your bullets shoot as swell As Fred Bear's arrow's flew; And may your nose work just as well As Jack O'Connor's too. May winds be never at your tail When stalking down the steep; May bears be never on your trail When packing out your sheep. May the hundred pounds upon you Not make you break or trip; And may the plane in which you flew Await you at the strip. -Seth Peterson | |||
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Hi Brett. It was a bargain and it was a Krieghoff that was ordered and not paid for. Basically much less than half price for a top grade model. ROYAL KAFUE LTD Email - kafueroyal@gmail.com Tel/Whatsapp (00260) 975315144 Instagram - kafueroyal | |||
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