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04 July 2009, 02:40
Collins
New Favorite Rifle
Hello all,
Kel-tec RFB
Rifle, Forward Ejecting, Bulpup
The stock pictures do not do this rifle justice... .308, uses FN Mags, ejects out of a tube forward of the grip. 18" barrel, 26" oal,
even a reasonable trigger.
More info as events warrant.




Collins
Airgunner / 458 SOCOMer/ 45-70er / 458 Lotter

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04 July 2009, 02:50
N E 450 No2
Collins, let us know how it shoots.

The bull pup rifle is a good concept. I used an AUG quite a bit, and I liked it.

That rifle being a 308, with the foward ejection, makes it truely ambidexterious.

Keep us posted.


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04 July 2009, 03:03
Peter
I had a Bushmaster Bullpup which I recently sold. Although a .223 it was a heavy gun. I certainly like the bullpup concept as I am always amused at seeing US troops with the butt of their AR 15 over the top of their shoulder when entering buildings etc. in Iraq and Afganistan. Perfect example to my mind of the utility of the bullpup concept. The trigger on the Bushmaster was not very good however. Not sure that I see the point of such a short barrelled weapon in 308 caliber though. For civilian purposes I really like the Carbon 15 type firearms that Bushmaster sells (I have one). Very light, handy and accurate enough with a red dot for up to 100 yards.
Just my 2 cents. Peter.


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06 July 2009, 06:49
Collins
4 pin take down, (Needs a cartridge)



Gas System: The piston moves about 1/4" (6mm) to actuate the bolt carrier



Manual is full color, glossy and detailed




Other notes:
It's heavy: 10 lb 2.5 oz empty with optic
11 lb 8 oz loaded with 20 rnd mag
It's VERY small
It's a well designed
Single point sling works very well, the rifle hangs nicely
It needs a tool (cartridge) to take down
Cannot check empty chamber with a mag installed
The ass end looks "busy"
Low, center-line recoil
Mag release is thumb operated but nearly requires two hands to operate.
Bolt release is at the butt end of gun and is cumbersome to operate
Bolt release, mag release, and safety are ambidextrous, Charging handle takes about 25 seconds to switch (must use a cartridge)
Uses FAL Mags
GREAT manual
Goes bang when trigger is pulled
With 44 gns of Varget and a 150gn FMJ, not as much muzzle flash as I'd have expected (it's the fourth of July, who's gonna complain?)

No problems with 30 rounds through it... I had to make more 7.62 last night so maybe some 100Yd groups tomorrow. the optic is a 1-3x Loopy CQ/T. I'd think the gun is better than both optic and operator.


Collins
Airgunner / 458 SOCOMer/ 45-70er / 458 Lotter

www.actionairgun.com LIVE NOW

06 July 2009, 09:14
N E 450 No2
Collins

Thanks for the report.

The fact that it is a 308 the weight may not be a bad thing.

The Leupold CQT is a great combat sight for close to medium range. I used one on a work gun for several years. I really liked it.

Keep us posted on its accuracy and performance.


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06 July 2009, 18:59
Collins
Added weight: 11 lb 8 oz, loaded, with optic.
The recoils is very minimal. I'll be playing with the gas adjustment to see if it can be reduced more and what effect it has on velocity (if any)


Collins
Airgunner / 458 SOCOMer/ 45-70er / 458 Lotter

www.actionairgun.com LIVE NOW

07 July 2009, 01:58
BECoole
A bullpup that can be shot lefty! Sweet!

I know some like to minimize the ambidextrous issue, but it really is a show stopper.
07 July 2009, 02:37
Collins
Being a lefty I could not agree more. Some of the others convert, but in my book ALL tactical rifles must be ABLE to be shot left handed, for tactical reasons if nothing else.


Collins
Airgunner / 458 SOCOMer/ 45-70er / 458 Lotter

www.actionairgun.com LIVE NOW

07 July 2009, 03:33
SS
Well, come on Collins, get some more 308 loaded and get out there and give us a range report!


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07 July 2009, 05:07
Collins
I am such a sucker for peer pressure.

50 yards, 18 round group, using a front rest only (can I use that as an excuse for the vertical fliers?)
The optic (Leupold CQ/T) was on 3x, the center dot just covering the x ring.

Coolest thing? All the brass was laying in a circle a foot from the muzzle, still on the bench



This is a good gun


Collins
Airgunner / 458 SOCOMer/ 45-70er / 458 Lotter

www.actionairgun.com LIVE NOW

07 July 2009, 06:00
N E 450 No2
So far looking good.

Now shoot it at 100 and 200 yards.


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18 July 2009, 03:39
SS
Come on Collins !
Before I buy one I want to see those 100 and 200 yard groups too.
Thanks


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18 July 2009, 04:19
Collins
I'm on the road for the next week A week from Saturday I'll take it out again. I'm also going to see If I can open the gas block, and get sub-sonics to Cycle. (Trailboss and 180gn lead RN) will report on those too...


Collins
Airgunner / 458 SOCOMer/ 45-70er / 458 Lotter

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29 July 2009, 10:55
gumboot458
How many dollars do they cost ?????????????????


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29 July 2009, 17:05
Collins
List is in the $1300 range. They sell on Gunbroker from $2500 to $3500, I got mine at the lower end of that range. Serial numbers are still under 100


Collins
Airgunner / 458 SOCOMer/ 45-70er / 458 Lotter

www.actionairgun.com LIVE NOW

13 January 2012, 00:56
N E 450 No2
Collins

Any further shooting info on your RFB?

I borrowed one from a buddy, and I will shoot it in a few days.

So far I like the way it handles.


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07 February 2012, 02:32
mdvjrp93
Keep the info flowing I have been interested in this gun for some time. I to want to know what it will do at 100,200&300.


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07 February 2012, 03:35
jeffeosso
neat rifle..
wicked looking platform

very cool .. how does it shoot at 100?


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19 June 2012, 03:51
low_tech
you've had it for a while, you still love it?
10 July 2012, 02:36
308Sako
What thread pattern is the flash hider threaded with?






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