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17 May 2025, 19:10
jeffeosso
Forced reset triggers "legal"
Not an endorsement

https://www.nbcnews.com/politi...e-machine-rcna207395


opinions vary band of bubbas and STC hunting Club

Information on Ammoguide about
the416AR, 458AR, 470AR, 500AR
What is an AR round? Case Drawings 416-458-470AR and 500AR.
476AR,
http://www.weaponsmith.com
17 May 2025, 22:53
crbutler
They will not be legal here...

Our state types made them illegal at the state level... somehow I think the left knew it was a bit of an overreach.
18 May 2025, 04:28
jeffeosso
I am certain Jr will advise me if I am wrong, but state laws can't abridge federal rights


opinions vary band of bubbas and STC hunting Club

Information on Ammoguide about
the416AR, 458AR, 470AR, 500AR
What is an AR round? Case Drawings 416-458-470AR and 500AR.
476AR,
http://www.weaponsmith.com
19 May 2025, 01:14
p dog shooter
quote:
Originally posted by jeffeosso:
I am certain Jr will advise me if I am wrong, but state laws can't abridge federal rights



But we been having a problem with the courts enforcing those rights
19 May 2025, 20:24
shootermetal
quote:
Originally posted by p dog shooter:
quote:
Originally posted by jeffeosso:
I am certain Jr will advise me if I am wrong, but state laws can't abridge federal rights



But we been having a problem with the courts enforcing those rights


You got that right p dog, far as I'm concerned out SCOTUS are all pieces of shit and controlled by the "deep state".
22 May 2025, 01:15
LHeym500
quote:
Originally posted by jeffeosso:
I am certain Jr will advise me if I am wrong, but state laws can't abridge federal rights


Two legal theories at play here: One would be preemption which would take an act of Congress to trigger, and two the Minnesota law if challenged would have to be held by the Fed District, Fed Circuit Court of Appeals, or Minnesota state appellate courts as unconstitutional violation of the 2nd Amendment as incorporated by the 14th.

The 5th Cir. Ct. App., does not apply to Minnesota. Likewise, that option does not rule in the constitutionality of such triggers through the incorporated 2nd Amendment. That ruling is narrowed to whether the ATF acted reasonably in regulating these triggers as machines guns. That is not a constitutional argument under the 2nd Amendment, Incorporation Doctrine.

A state might be able to pass legislation regulating something the Feds have not by an Enabling Statute permitted the Executive Branch to regulate.

The 5th Circuit’s option is about regulatory power through the NFA by the Executive through rule making. It is not about constitutionality under of such triggers as a violation of the 2nd Amendment as Incorporated by the Due Process Clause of the 14th Amendment.

Had the 5th Circuit Court of Appeals found the ref to violate the 2nd Amendment as incorporated by the 14th Amendment, Due Process Clause, states in the 5th Circuit could not pass their own bans.