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I have Mannlicher-Schoenauer that I can't find in any of my books. It has a 24" barrel with a full length stock, double triggers, chambered in 30-06, serial number is 1411. Any help on approx. value and year of manufacture would be appreciated.
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What is written on the top of the receiver ring, the left side of the action, and is there a 2-digit number on the left side of the chamber?
 
Posts: 2034 | Location: Roebling, NJ 08554 | Registered: 20 January 2002Reply With Quote
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24" full length?
that sounds custom.
most of the mannlicher stocked were carbines.
 
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On top it says
Made in Austria
patent
Mannlicher
Schonoenauer
KAL: 7-62x63

On the side it says
Oesterr.Waffenfabr.-Ges.Streyr

No two digit number.
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sounds like something built. I would bet it is a 1924 model. The 1924 model was available in 7.62 X 63. It just might be a custom rifle made up from a military rifle action. Since the model numbers normally appeared on the receiver ring, the lack of a number there may indicate a military receiver. i have never seen a factory 24" mannlicher stock.
check this site for pics to help id it. the caliber is a metric equal to the 30-06 but i'd have a qualified smith to check it out.
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Originally posted by KSTEPHENS:
sounds like something built. I would bet it is a 1924 model. The 1924 model was available in 7.62 X 63. It just might be a custom rifle made up from a military rifle action. Since the model numbers normally appeared on the receiver ring, the lack of a number there may indicate a military receiver. i have never seen a factory 24" mannlicher stock.
check this site for pics to help id it. the caliber is a metric equal to the 30-06 but i'd have a qualified smith to check it out.
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I'm sure KurtC will tell us the history. I doubt that it was ever a military rifle. To the best of my knowledge, the ONLY country that ever used the M/S as a military rifle was Greece, which i-used the M1903 chambered for the 6.5X54mm round. I have a couple of those, and due to the short receiver and magazine length, I see no way that the M1903 action could be made to accept the .30/.06 (7.62X63mm) round.

Yet the markings seem to indicate a rifle made after WWI, and made for the European market, not for Stoeger.


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It was made between 1924 and 1938. Fullstock was an option on the 23.5" barrel, I've owned several like that.

The primary way to distinguish between a commercial M-S action and a military is the straw-colored bolt lock on the right side, just behind the bolt handle. The military actions didn't have them.
 
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The markings you describe make your Mannlicher a M1925 (European development of the M1924) The M1924 does not have the caliber marking on it, as ALL M1924s were .30-06. With the M1925, Steyr began their now common practice of placing the caliber on the receiver ring. Also, the M1924/1925 action is physically larger than the M1903/05/08. You will find at least three variations of the M1925, including two with markings defining them as a High Velocity Model, in German script, of course.

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