One is a true Martini style action, the other is some strange bird I haven't been able to trace yet. Both in 380 Long (145 gr. at 1100 fps), I'm shooting 38 Long Colt cases in them which work a treat. They each weigh around 4 1/2 pounds with straight grip stocks and a dainty little fore-end. Both are engraved all over the action, including top rails, and both actions were case colored which is turning grey except for the protected areas. They also have oval cross section barrels which were then cut flat on the top for sight mounting. The bottom one still needs the rear sight rebuilt and the barrel was completely in the white with some pitting. After a lot of hours with file and sandpaper I reblued it and think it turned out to match the rest of the rifle pretty well.