Stocker, in a roundabout way I think I said mostly the same, but I have to take exception to your characterization of the W. Richards as "low quality". Perhaps some were, but my sampling of one says a lot different. I recognize the particulars of what was goin on back then, but the trade gun industry in Belgium produced some quality and not all was necessarily junk. The Capegun I mentioned above is a remarkable piece of craftmanship.