What's a ballpark value?

Hello,
Are you sure it is in 30-06? I may be mistaken, but thought it was offered in the various 308 length cases as in 308, 243, etc.??
If made prior to '64 has more value than later ones, but rifle was not all that popular, but curious if you do have one in 06.
dsiteman

it'd be worth the ballpark - they never made one

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Originally posted by butchloc:
it'd be worth the ballpark - they never made one

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YEP its a .243

Ballpark value for a .243

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Originally posted by butchloc:
it'd be worth the ballpark - they never made one

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You need to state if it's a pre-64 or a post-64 and you need to state the condition. The pre-64s will bring a slight premium over the post-64 rifles (mostly the .284 chambering) with NIB examples bringing around $1000, mint examples around $800, 90% to 95% $550 or so, etc. There's just not a huge demand for these guns, as they didn't develop a huge following when they were made and don't generate a lot of interest to very many people outside of hardcore Winchester collectors.

I'm sure there will be some pinhead who'll bust his ass to post that these rifles are worth $2000, because it's a real classic (bullshit), blah, blah, blah. Let that poster pony up his sky high price or hook you up with a buyer who will.

The Winchester 100 has a bit of a following, but nothing like its lever-action sibling, the Model 88. Actually, while it is something of a complicated design (and needs a firing pin fixed under factory recall), I kinda like them and all I have shot gave respectable accuracy.

Pre-64 (conventional checkering) is worth more than post-64 (basketweave impressed "checkering"), but the late model carbine (short barrel, no checkering) is probably the most sought-after. Of course, .284 brings a premium of some 25%-50%, .243 is next, and .308 (the most common chambering) brings the least money.

Expect prices on a .243 to range from maybe $600 for a mint carbine down to perhaps $250 for a basketweave model with some mileage on it. Be sure the magazine is with it and is the proper one. Replacements are hard to find and fetch $40-up.

The same gun in a Model 88 would likley be worth 25% more.

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Originally posted by Stonecreek:
The Winchester 100 has a bit of a following

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Based on your prices and mine, apparently not.

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Originally posted by Stonecreek:
the late model carbine (short barrel, no checkering) is probably the most sought-after.

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Not true. They were made in greater numbers and tend to bring less money.

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Originally posted by Stonecreek:
Be sure the magazine is with it and is the proper one. Replacements are hard to find and fetch $40-up.

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Not true. Replacements are currently being made by and have been made by (for several years) Twin Pine Armory. They bought Winchester's old tooling. Brownell's (among others) sells Model 100 magazines, catalog numbers 895-100-100 (.243/.308/.358) and 895-000-002 (.284). They're in stock and ready to ship.

The most sought after Model 88's are the ones chambered in the 358 remember now this is the rifle and caliber that replaced the Model 71. The 358 was intorduced in 1955 and was dropped in 1963 and it was only chambered in the std rifle not the carbine. They were chambered in std rifle versions in 243, 284, 308 which has been stated here already the most common and the 358 the most sought after one which is followed by the 284. The carbines were made from 1968 to 1973 only three calibers were offered 243,284 and 308. By 1971 only two chamberings were offered the 243 and 308. So that means the 284 was made only for 3 years in the carbine version. The 284 was first introduced in 1963 in the std rifle and dropped in 1971 from both variations. These rifle did not make it the 20 year production mark. I would love to have a 88 in a 284 I think they are very nice rifles. I had one in a 100 and shot a nice cow elk with it several years ago. Also original magazines for these rifle are worth there weight in gold.

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Originally posted by 323:
The most sought after Model 88's are the ones chambered in the 358

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Not true. The pre-64 Model .284 chambering holds this distinction.

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Originally posted by 323:
Also original magazines for these rifle are worth there weight in gold.

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Really? Are you a cash buyer? Or just a tire kicker? I have a pound of Model 100 and Model 88 magazines I'd be interested in selling at today's gold price ($423). I'll accept bank drafts, cashier's checks, money orders, and personal checks. Cashier's checks, non-postal money orders, and personal checks must clear before shipping. Paypal also accepted, but with usual surcharge. Let me know when you're ready to cough up the jack, sport.

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Originally posted by Just Some Guy:

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Originally posted by 323:
The most sought after Model 88's are the ones chambered in the 358

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Not true. The pre-64 Model .284 chambering holds this distinction.

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Originally posted by 323:
Also original magazines for these rifle are


worth there weight in gold.

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Really? Are you a cash buyer? Or just a tire kicker? I have a pound of Model 100 and Model 88 magazines I'd be interested in selling at today's gold price ($423). I'll accept bank drafts, cashier's checks, money orders, and personal checks. Cashier's checks, non-postal money orders, and personal checks must clear before shipping. Paypal also accepted, but with usual surcharge. Let me know when you're ready to cough up the jack, sport.

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You have been booted off of every other site on this forum now you are trying your hardest to get laughed out of this site. I do not know who you are I really don't care but I think you do not know a damn thing about anything I have a friend who is from Tulsa and he told me Oklahoma city is the armpit of Oklahoma and you know what I think he is right. So you are telling me the 284 is worth more than the 358 but you also said the carbines were produced in greater number than the standard rifles which one is it, from my number the carbines were only produced from 68 to 71. Just some guy go find another forum or go to the political forum and hang out there someone might take a liking to on that forum.

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Originally posted by 323:
You have been booted off of every other site on this forum now you are trying your hardest to get laughed out of this site. I do not know who you are I really don't care but I think you do not know a damn thing about anything I have a friend who is from Tulsa and he told me Oklahoma city is the armpit of Oklahoma and you know what I think he is right. So you are telling me the 284 is worth more than the 358 but you also said the carbines were produced in greater number than the standard rifles which one is it, from my number the carbines were only produced from 68 to 71. Just some guy go find another forum or go to the political forum and hang out there someone might take a liking to on that forum.

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Quit pussing around, jackass. Send me $423 for my pound of magazines.

323: There's no question that the .358 in the Model 88 is by far the rarest and most valuable of any of the chamberings. I didn't mention it in my original post since I was addressing the "ballpark" values of the Model 100, and the .358 was never chambered (for reasons unknown to me) in the Model 100.

Despite the non-constructive comments of J.S.G., I'll stand by my "ballpark" estimates on the market prices for M-100's (and on magazines for them).

You may have taken a bit license in saying that Model 100/88 magazines are "worth their weight in gold", but it would not be an exaggeration to say that they bring several times their weight in silver . Does the person calling himself "just some guy " work really hard at being an asshole, or does it come naturally to him?

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Originally posted by Stonecreek:
323: There's no question that the .358 in the Model 88 is by far the rarest and most valuable of any of the chamberings.

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Absolutely incorrect. The pre-64 .284 is rarest (only manufactured one year).

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Originally posted by Stonecreek:
I didn't mention it in my original post since I was addressing the "ballpark" values of the Model 100, and the .358 was never chambered (for reasons unknown to me) in the Model 100.

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Uh, maybe because the .358 was never very popular and the Model 100 was never very popular, so it would be kind of a losing deal all around.

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Originally posted by Stonecreek:
Despite the non-constructive comments of J.S.G., I'll stand by my "ballpark" estimates on the market prices for M-100's (and on magazines for them).

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I don't think I ever questioned your price estimates of the rifles, did I? Based on your estimates, as well as mine, it seems to bear out the fact that there isn't a huge following or market for the Model 100. The Model 88 has a certain following, but even it's limited (ask how many people are familiar with the 88). However, you're not in "the ballpark" on your magazine pricing, in fact, you're not even in the solar system.

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Originally posted by Stonecreek:
You may have taken a bit license in saying that Model 100/88 magazines are "worth their weight in gold", but it would not be an exaggeration to say that they bring several times their weight in silver .

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Silver is $6.75 a pound. By several, do you mean four or five?

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Originally posted by Stonecreek:
Does the person calling himself "just some guy" work really hard at being an asshole, or does it come naturally to him?

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It's natural, but the ladies love me.

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Just Some Guy:
[Silver is $6.75 a pound. By several, do you mean four or five?[QUOTE]

How'd you like to double your money on that silver, JSG? I'll take all you can find at $13.50 a pound. Around here it sells in the neighborhood of $7 per ounce. Such a deal should make us both rich, right?

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Originally posted by Stonecreek:
How'd you like to double your money on that silver, JSG? I'll take all you can find at $13.50 a pound. Around here it sells in the neighborhood of $7 per ounce. Such a deal should make us both rich, right?

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You posted that my magazines were worth several times the pound-price of silver, did you not? How much are you willing to pay? I'll take your money if you've got the guts.

[/QUOTE]You posted that my magazines were worth several times the pound-price of silver, did you not? How much are you willing to pay? I'll take your money if you've got the guts.[/QUOTE]

I did not. If you will bother to read my post above, it clearly states "several times their weight in silver". Regardless of that error (or intentional misstatement, whichever the case may be) on your part, your assertion that silver is worth $6.75 per pound is as blatantly inaccurate as your assertions vis-a-vis the market value of certain guns.

Having learned long ago that mud-wrestling with a hog is a no-win proposition, my participation in this thread is now complete. No need for you to respond JSG. Your superior intellect, encyclopedic knowledge, and steel trap logic are too much for me. I must concede in the face of such odds.

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Originally posted by Stonecreek:
I did not.

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You did. Get your kids to read it back to you.

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Originally posted by Stonecreek:
If you will bother to read my post above, it clearly states "several times their weight in silver". Regardless of that error (or intentional misstatement, whichever the case may be) on your part, your assertion that silver is worth $6.75 per pound is as blatantly inaccurate as your assertions vis-a-vis the market value of certain guns.

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Inaccurate? Nope, just a typo regarding weights. You seem to think Winchester 88 and 100 magazines are worth several times their weight in silver. I have around 1-pound of said magazines (around 16 ounces) and I want 20 times that in silver. The last I knew, 20 would meet the definition of several, would it not? Now's your chance to put up, pal. Are they worth several times their weight in silver to YOU, or are you just dispensing ignorant advice?

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Originally posted by Stonecreek:
Your superior intellect, encyclopedic knowledge, and steel trap logic are too much for me. I must concede in the face of such odds.

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