I was given a splendid new Truglo lighted 5 pins tru site
First this sight is making the bow noisy, second it's too fragile .
Last year I used a cobra easy slide that worked, but God I feared he was many times pulled out by creepers.

I am looking for a sturdy ultralight sight.
As I would have to creep in real jungle with snagging vines, creepers and branchs all over, I want a smooth sight.
As it may happen I have to shoot at low light I need either a lighting led or a tritium pin.

I am hesitating between a Cobra MiniVenom, a simple PSE infinity or a more elaborated Spot Hogg barebones.

What is your advice?

Jean,

If you are putting the sight on an Allegiance be careful which one you get.

The Allegiance needs one with a lot of adjustment range.

I used a three pin Cobra Sidewinder on mine, and had to ask Cobra for a longer windage bar. (It was free here in the States, but may take you a while to get.) The Sidewinder is simple and not too protruding and seems very tough and rugged as far as not shifting zero. I worry about breaking that plastic barrel on the front, though.

Wish I had a better answer!

The truglo might get quieter if you tighten all the hex screws - even the ones for the slide. I like mine on my FeatherMax.

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The Allegiance needs one with a lot of adjustment range.

I used a three pin Cobra Sidewinder on mine, and had to ask Cobra for a longer windage bar.

Don,

You are scaring me with the longer bar requirement. In fact I think I'll try my other sights on the Allegiance : the cobra easy slide and a basic PSE. If they fit, I'll take them along in Africa as back up.

The Cobra sidewinder didn't catch my attention for I feel the front reel to flashy. Stupid for, birds and apes apart, the game doesn't tell the yellow, green or red from the gray. That the proof marketing is paramount.

Another though to ponder; I see a lot of people going to red dot sights - especially with aging eyes. I see pros and cons with it - no pins to break but batteries to go dead. I use one on a crossbow and the people who use them on compounds swear by them. Another option to consider.

Thanks Clem,

Sadly the less technology, the better in my opinion. I'd be over-happy with less technology on my compound. To begin with the no-peep, the sight and the rest.
In fact we cannot now imagine hunting with a compound not rigged with these items. Sorry, I am not ready to add red dot sight even though.............my eyes are aging.

My companion will be (in 5 weeks) the the cobra easy slide.

Good luck Clem

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Originally posted by jbderunz:
Thanks Clem,

Sadly the less technology, the better in my opinion. I'd be over-happy with less technology on my compound. To begin with the no-peep, the sight and the rest.
In fact we cannot now imagine hunting with a compound not rigged with these items. Sorry, I am not ready to add red dot sight even though.............my eyes are aging.

My companion will be (in 5 weeks) the the cobra easy slide.

Good luck Clem

With simplicity comes reliability - a sound policy. Good luck with your hunts and be safe.

Jean,

Check out Toxonics products. I have used their sights for years. No gimmicks, just fiber optic sight pins built very sturdy. I've bow hunted game in Africa several times with no complaints.

JB
I use a Cobra easy slide. The chace of getting confused with the pins are zero, espesialy when the adrenalin is pumping faster than your blood

I have made my mind.

Jaco, I'll mount my cobra slide

Ann

A close friend will lend me a Toxonics basic stop dog as a back up.

Thank You very much.

I have hunted both with multiple pins and single pin sights here in Africa. My opinion go for the Cobra Easy Slide Extreme. You can not go wrong and have your ph range your trophy before you take the shot. It is however the most important thing when bow hunting (correct distance). I also shoots a Bow Tech Allegiance 80# with an Easy Slide Extreme after I have been shooting Mathews for 3 years. Great combo. If you do not prefer a single slide the only other one I would recommend is the Cobra Side Winder.

Zingeli, You all,

Thanks a lot.
Now I am lost, don't know what to bring along.
As Air France is allowing 46 kg (100 lbs) luggage, I'll bring all my sights and the Toxonics.
The cobra easy slide is a friggin branch-catcher but for me is the more practical as I'll use 2 sorts of arrows. Beman max4 858 gr for buff and the Beman 525 gr for the rest. To swap them, the slide is the more practical

Why is the baboon clinging to the rock, trying to hold on to dear life

That is really a nice one, what bow did you take it with. Is his twin brother on the menu with the trip coming up. Taking a baboon with a bow is a big challenge

Red dot sites are not just for aging eyes. I have used one exclusively for 15 years. It is by far the easiest and most accurate system you can put on your bow. That's a bold statement but its true. When you try to use peeps and pins, your eyes bounce between the target, the peep, the pin, the target etc. It is physically impossible for your eye to focus on more than one thing at a time. With a red dot, there is no peep, no pin, just the target. By looking at the target with both eyes open, the "dot" appears to be projected on the target and you can concentrate on picking a spot. I have taught 100's of people to shoot using this system over the years with great results. As for battery life, you should get 1-2 years out of a battery if you turn it on and off when you get to the woods. I change out mine each year, they only cost about $2.50 and I keep extras in my backquiver. Stop by our booth at the SCI Convention and Ill set you up.

Hugh

For hunting thick, nasty, vine, brushy and thorn ridden areas, I really like the Copper John "Dead Nuts" 5-pin sight. It is rugged, lightweight, and I find the sight pins much brighter than most competitors. It also has a very good (simple, dependable, and easy to set-up/use) light attachment, and a rugged quick-detatch pin cover.

Took this setup to Africa on 3 safaris on two different Bowtech Patriots -- went through some really tangled brush along the Limpopo River while hunting Bushbuck, nasty thick stuff on the Eastern Cape while hunting Bushpig, without any problems. The sight light is fantastic for low light.

Went on a BC Mountain Goat hunt this year and took two bows, one with a Copper John and the other had a Cobra Sidewinder. I used the Bowtech with CJ for the first part of the hunt because it appeared to be a bit more rugged than my Mathews with the Cobra. To get to the base of the mountains, we had to smash through several miles of Rain Forest chock full of Devils Club and Slide Alder. By far the nastiest stuff I've ever been through. This was a backpack hunt, and in conquering the first mountain the Bowtech/CJ had no problems. Then, I switched to the Mathews/Cobra, and ended up with a completely broken pin, and two other broken fiber optics by the end of the first day.

Based on these experiences, I really like the CJ for use in rough country. Been through a bunch of rough hunting with it, and it has yet to let me down.

For simple durability you cannot beat the spot hogg!!

I shoot a Bowtech Allegiance and have the Tru Glo 5 pins sight that works very nice, I also put a Hind Sight on the bow for low light conditions.

I use a Hindsight Crossfire without any hassles!!!

I have been hunting in Africa as PH and self guided most of my adault life and find that keeping it simple is the best look for a three pin sight like a spot hog etc you rarely have time to ajust the sight--they keep moving.

I have guided bow hunters on the big five and simple works best