I use 100gr Muzzy and like them very well but some of my buddys was telling how much better the Mechanical broad heads shot. Thay might shoot better but will thay get the job done. My dad bought some mechanical broad heads last year. And we went on a bow hunt a buck came up with in 20 yards of my dads stand he shot the buck hiting it in the sholder the mechanical broad head and arrow just bounced off the bucks sholder.I know a sholder shot is not a good shot but I know my 100gr Muzzys would have at least broken its sholder. What do you thaink abount the mechanical broad heads.
Posts: 302 | Location: west virginia | Registered: 10 December 2002
I use them for small game and they work fine . I use 125gr Muzzys for deer . I did try them one time and took a shot well in range and it too fell out . As for what I think about them........... they are good for small game . Turtle
Posts: 1115 | Location: SE PA | Registered: 29 May 2002
Say Shortmag, if it's any help to you.I have shot 1 black bear,2-8pt.,1-7pt bucks and 13 does with spit fire mechanicals 125 gr. All have performed flawlessly so far. Bow weight is set at about 72# or73#, 30" gold tip hunter shafts, with 4" vanes.Good luck.
I have used the Rocky Mountain Gators before and had some success. They are a two blade broadhead with no O-rings or springs. It uses two one-piece blades that open on impact. Fly great, but have had problems with penetration because of large cutting diameter and energy loss when broadhead opens. Switched to 100gr Muzzys and love them. They might not fly quite as well, but get pass-through shots every time with large wound channel.
Thanks for the info. It is hard for me to switch broadheads them 100gr Muzzys have never let me down yet.3or4 years ago I was bow hunting when a 8pt came with 30 yards of my stand I reliest my arrow and it hit a branch the arrow hit the buck in the ham I was mad thought I would never find that buck but the muzzy done it job the buck only went a bount 80 yards.I dont like to make a bad shot but it happens. But if you have a mechanical broad head that works or does not work for you let me know your thoughts.
Posts: 302 | Location: west virginia | Registered: 10 December 2002
I shoot spitfires but havent killed with them yet. I know they shoot the same as my field heads though.
Every one but 1 friend is using them now. He can't afford to change anyhow. The guys that run the 3 shops I use also swear by them. I just wan't to see for myself but will have to wait.
Posts: 4326 | Location: Under the North Star! | Registered: 25 December 2002
Boilerroom I have herd good thangs abount the spitfires broad heads not saying thay bad broad heads but let me know how thay work for you I might try them out. Thanks for your poast
Posts: 302 | Location: west virginia | Registered: 10 December 2002
I use Pucketts blood trailers and are very pleased with the results. I have had standard broad heads fail to shot thru and break shoulders. Even if you break it you might not get to the vitals. I shot one buck that with the pucketts at 50 yards he jumped the string turned and the arrow took him in the right ham went thru the ham, guts and stopped on the far shoulder bone taking out the heart and lungs on the way. He went fifty yards and dropped. The pucketts fly very nice they are lie shooting feild tips. I have around 15 deer with them now and have never had one fail to open. They open on the hair on the first side leaving a nice X cut all the way though.
Posts: 19835 | Location: wis | Registered: 21 April 2001
The only use I see for them is if you are shooting a "speed demon" bow that can't shoot real broadheads good enough. I know it's been done but I would not choose them for elk.
Shortmag - I missed your post I use all types but I like the Gator types the best. Bloodtrailer I did not like one bit but they practiced well . I shot some prototypes this year but can't remember the name Back to the stove Turtle
Posts: 1115 | Location: SE PA | Registered: 29 May 2002
Hi my name is Chris and I am new to the forum.I have my own farm in S.A.and run exclusive bowhunting Safaris.I switched to mechanicals about 2 years ago.The main reason was for accuracy.I know people will say that you can get broadheads to impact the same as field points but I have never been that successfull.What finally changed me was I did a test @20 yds and my grouping was 50% bigger with broadheads.When I changed to mechanical broadheads I was spot on with my field points even out to 60yds!I do a lot of culling on the farm myself and have to date taken over 30 animals with the 125g Rocket Aeroheads (Steelhead) and have never had a failure.I shoot a High Country power Force @ 64lbs and arrow Gold Tip @ 260ft/s.I recently shot a Gemsbuck wich you can se on my web and I had a complete pass through and that id not a small animal.I have looked @ lots of mechanicals and the steelhead was the only one so far that looked robust enough and has proved itself so far.
Posts: 11 | Location: South Africa | Registered: 28 February 2003
I have shot several Mechanical heads and the last on I used was Spitfires and I took two Deer with them. I do however have to say that I was not very impressed with any of them. And would not recommend them to anyone shooting a bow below 60#. I shoot a 70# Darton Maverick and did not get a pass through with any of the Mech. heads that I have tried. I gave them up and decided to back to my old reliable Zwickey Eskimos with bleeder blades that have give me pass throughs on even Elk.
Posts: 223 | Location: Oklahoma | Registered: 11 July 2002
I shoot the Pucketts with a Darton Excel at 73.5 lbs and on broad sides allways get past throughs. They have prformed very well giving great blood trails and killing quickly.
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Posts: 19835 | Location: wis | Registered: 21 April 2001
I'm with jeremyw on this. I switched away from mechs this year and started shooting the Steel Force ss version. This is an amazing head. Cuts on impact, nothing to fail to open...or break off. As long as your bow is tuned and arrows spined properly there is no reason why you wont get good arrow flight from most fixed blade heads.
Posts: 569 | Location: VA, USA | Registered: 22 January 2002
I use to shoot spitfires until I hit an antelope and only one blade opened. 2" penetration, had to follow up and shoot again. Switched to Rocket Steelheads (100 grain) and have never had a problem. Complete pass throughs on four antelope and one mule deer buck. I shoot a 27" draw at 65#'s so I'm not getting blazing speed. 267fps with 410 grain arrow. Animals were shot from 37 to 64 yds.
My hunting partner of 15yrs has been shooting expandables for quite some time now. He too finds they fly exactly like his field points and group better than fixed blade broadheads. This is important to him, HOWEVER, he is a speed demon!!! Anyway, I've seen him use everything from Spitfires to Rockets and a few others on various types of game. Our consensus is this: They are all about the same on deer-sized game and generally work quite well. BUT, they are quite unreliable on elk. Meaning, shots that are well placed, don't kill as quickly as they should. Our explanation for this based upon over a half dozen recovered arrows, is that the mechanical heads tend to (badly) deform and deflect on the heavier elk. Again, deer haven't seemed to be much of an issue.
As for myself, I'll keep sticking critters big and small with my 56# recurve and 125 Muzzys. My 525gr arrows have passed through every animal I've shot, even a few elk.
quote:Originally posted by Jumpalot: I use to shoot spitfires until I hit an antelope and only one blade opened. 2" penetration, had to follow up and shoot again. Switched to Rocket Steelheads (100 grain) and have never had a problem. Complete pass throughs on four antelope and one mule deer buck. I shoot a 27" draw at 65#'s so I'm not getting blazing speed. 267fps with 410 grain arrow. Animals were shot from 37 to 64 yds.
That is flying pretty good for a 27" draw and 410 grainers. Am I the only one who uses round wheels and finger release anymore?
shortmag, that must be some heck of a bow your dad uses! I can't imagine an arrown "bouncing off" a whitetail at 20 yards regardless of the broadhead used, unless you're using a child's toy bow!
You can shoot the strongest bow in the world and if you use a mech head and it doesn't open it can and will bounce back out of an animal. If the blades don't open it will do the same thing a field point would do.
This is the very reason I won't use them, they are unreliable. I shoot broadheads year round and never practice with field points. I am a hunter, not a target shooter. If you are using a rifle to hunt you certainly don't use "practice loads" to sight a rifle in, why would you use field points to practice with a bow? Kinda been my thinking anyway.
I recently found out a MAJOR mech head manufacturer LIED about his product and it's reliablitily. I feel bad he's out there scamming people with his advertisements but he's not telling the truth.
Mech heads work sometimes but not all the time. When they work, I am sure they can work well. I personally don't want that "sometime" event to happen to me or the game I am shooting at. I'll stick with the old reliable fixed blade broadheads.
Posts: 19743 | Location: The LOST Nation | Registered: 27 March 2001
With a mechanical broadhead, you are subject to the mechanical AND physical failure of the broadhead. With a non-mechanical broadhead, only physical failure of the point material will cause the point to fail. Two vs. one things to go wrong.
Personally, I follow the KISS principle.
Posts: 2324 | Location: Staunton, VA | Registered: 05 September 2002
Yes, killed a 280# hog with one. Bow runs about 260 fps. I shoot carbons, 100 gr. Jackhammers. Shot him behind the shoulder angleing foreward. 67 yards on my lazer range finder. He was very surprized, pulled the arrow out with his teeth!! It penetrated to the opposite shoulder. Ran quarting away up a hill then began to run out of steam and headed down hill toward me. Piled up at about 20 yards. Quite a thrill.
Oh, Wasps, the seem good. The blades are a little thicker than others, I like that.
"Has any one tried the mechanical Broad head that wasp makes. I think it called a Jak-Hammer I seen them in a Cabelas book a couple days ago."
Posts: 813 | Location: Left Coast | Registered: 02 November 2000
i lost 2 nice bucks in the lasst 4 years shooting mechanicals. both opening morning, both shot not much past the end of my boots. had to wait for em' to walk out a bit. i had these two cut skinned wrapped and frozen. unfortunately i would have seen better performance out of a sharp stick. these were slam dunk shots. 10-12 yards quartering away. feeding. not a clue i was there. 65# bow with 100 grain rockets. both arrows i found a few hours later. blood on the first 4-5 inches of arrow and the blades all bent to hell. the only reason i switched in the first place to mech is they shoot so damn good. now i dont care if they find me the deer! i will never go hunting with mech again. all the time invested and you get a set of horns under you the first morning only to have the whole thing go up in smoke. keep shooting the fixed blades till' you get it all right. woofer
Posts: 741 | Location: vermont. thanks for coming, now go home! | Registered: 05 February 2002
Most cases of lost game with mechanicals, or fixed blade for that matter, are hunter error, not broadhead failure. Most hunters are quick to lay blame somehwere other than themselves. I use shockwave mechs and 3bl muzzy interchangeably, they both put deer down every time if you hit the double lung shot. Even a field point will kill a deer every time if you hti the lungs broadside. A well tuned bow can shoot both styles well if it's set up correctly, but each has it's advantages. I always figure if I miss forward and hit the shoulder, a fixed blade would be better and give me a better chance to break through. If I miss back, through the guts, a large cut mechanical would come in handy. Now if I can only predict... I use the mechanicals on windy or rainy days, and Muzzys the rest of the time.
Well, after reading everyone's thoughs here I think I'll stick with my 100 gr. WASPs. They've worked on everything from Jack Rabbits to 300+ pound Black Bears. Lawdog
Posts: 1254 | Location: Northern California | Registered: 22 December 2002
I started using mechanicals last year, for the accuracy factor, for Turkey hunting. I used Rocky Mountain Extremes 100. I took two beautiful gobblers last year the first one a 23 lb. bird i hit him right in the wing bone at 25 yds broad side and he dropped like a ton a bricks, the second i hit him too far back the the broad head worked perfectly making a nice cut throught him, he bled out quick, only went about 40 yds.
In the fall i decided to use them and took a nice ten point at 25 yds. broadside with a perfect pass through double lung shot.
I shoot a Reflex Prowler at 28" pulling 67# and cabela's camo carbon arrows.
I'll stick with my 85 grain Hammer SSTs. They shot to the same place as my field tips. They go all the way through a big bull elk. They have yet to fail me in 20 plus years of using them.
Almost everyone in our camp is now using the 100 grain Rockets with excellent success. I tagged a 7 pointer last year with a neck shot and a doe with a lung shot. Neither deer ran more that 30 yards before dropping. I had tried the satellite mechanicals the year before and did manage to tag a doe, but it didn't open up and I had to trail it for about 150 yards before finding it.
I'm sticking with the rockets
Posts: 1985 | Location: The Three Lower Counties (Delaware USA) | Registered: 13 September 2001