Ok heres the deal guys. A guy at work shot a deer October 7th at 6:15 p.m. Did not gut the deer out, brought it to work at 10:00 p.m. the same day, when fellow workers came out to see the deer it was bloated, still not gutted out and no one could find a hole from an arrow, there was no blood anywhere on the deer and the deer was not registered. The deer was measured roughtly 157, 12 pointer. Does something seem a foul here?

Yes it Dose!!!! I do not know what the Temp was
there but it would take longer than 3-4 hrs to bloat unless it was HOT. I somehow doubt it was at 6 to 10PM up there. Sounds like BS.

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Originally posted by invader66:
Yes it Dose!!!! I do not know what the Temp was
there but it would take longer than 3-4 hrs to bloat unless it was HOT. I somehow doubt it was at 6 to 10PM up there. Sounds like BS.

The temp was around 50 degrees.
Some other guy at work told me that this fellow told him that he took the deer back to the woods where he allegedly shot it, and took a picture the next morning. With the guts still in it.

Sounds like BS. (/QUOTE)

How did you know this guys initials?

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Sounds like road kill to me! No blood, no hole, no way! It was probably already bloating at the roadside and he didn't want to mess with gutting it. Just wants to make a name for himself.

Used to help a Gleaner service pick up Deer from the roads. Looks like a good candidate of something we would have picked up. I have seen some nice racks come from road kills.

Sounds a wee bit fishy if those are the facts. This guy supposedly takes a 160 class buck, doesn't field dress it, takes it to work where nobody observes blood, then poses with it in a picture looking like a hardass rather than smiling from ear to ear like anybody would who just scored a once in a lifetime bow kill on a 160 buck.



I'll gauge this one by the size of the droppings too:

poached it, found it dead or paid for it... and he once read a Leonard La Rue article.

I doubt he's running around the woods with a tape measure... in January... while trapping coyotes.

Maybe he didn't gut it because he wanted to get its field weight. I hope this guy shot it himself, but sort of makes you wonder why it'd bloat up so fast. Seems like it'd take longer than 4 hours.

I don't see how anyone could enjoy the recognition if they didn't get it honest, but some liars actually start believing their own lies.

Plinker

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I don't see how anyone could enjoy the recognition if they didn't get it honest, but some liars actually start believing their own lies.

That, my friend, is Bruce Stieber, a legend in his own mind.

Even taking a quick glance at the picture, there is no blood in it, or the cape doesn't look wet from where he cleaned it. Unless his arrow didn't fully penatrate clean through???? Even guys I know who have shot moose with a bow get penatration though....

If he DID shoot it, which I doubt and did not gut it or care for the meat, he does not belong in the ranks of bowhunters or any other hunting fraternity. To waste meat and a fine animal makes him nothing but scum in my book and I hope they find him out. May the beetles find his trophy!

I actually know a couple of people who would try to pull something like that if they happened across a trophy carcus....

One of them....well lets just say i knew him when he was a kid. But when he was about 15 somebody gave him a big carp that wrapped clear around the inside of a wash tub. So he was showing everyone what a big fish he caught. Here's how to catch people up in lies...wait several years then say something like..."hey remember that time you pulled that joke saying you caught that big fish? Boy you really had us going!" First there's a fleeting glimmer of doubt, then they break into a dumb grin and act like they knew you knew all along. Lies are hard to keep straight and remember what you told to who.


Plinker

Having found many a big rack dead Deer during firearm season that were bloated I think this story smells of

hmmmm if i was the forestry service, i'd be sending samples off for toxicology testing.... something just doesn't smell right here..... no blood, not even coming out the mouth... i've shot deer with a bow, and a rifle, they always bleed out the mouth... if hit by a car they would most certainly bleed out the mouth... i gotta agree noway this was a legal kill.

I know of 1 Deer killed with a Baseball Bat
but there was blood.

for some reason, i'm still thinking that some type of poison was involved.... the lack of blood leads me to that idea, hmmm maybe find out which taxidermist he is taking it to, and have the DNR/G&FC/Parks Department (or whatever your state calls it) send the stomach contents, and a few vials of blood off for toxicology tests... my guess is he's gonna be receiving some hefty fines if they do

I was thinking poison, too. This guy would do anything just to get attention. That's how pathological liars work. Jay

If something smelled foul back then a phone call should have been made right away - now there is little to no chance of determing when or how the deer died.

The first question I'd ask any fellow hunter when seeing no blood is "Hey, nice deer, where'd you hit him?". The second question I'd ask is "How come you didn't gut him?". I'd probably call the game warden if the answers didn't jive.

As for the bloating, I shot a buck last week in mid-50 degree weather and less than 2 hours later when I returned with an ATV it had already started to bloat - and that was a pure double-lung shot with no diaphragm being cut.

I helped a friend find a deer in the morning after he shot it in the evening. It was bloated and I ran far away when he cut into it. He gutted it and the meat was fine. The bacteria in the stomach works fast but did not go beyond the cavity. Actually not as bad as a gut shot deer as far as being clean inside.

If somebody would have been present when the hide was removed might have told by looking at the inside of the hide. The blood clots up, turns red around a bullet hole. I wouldn't know, but guessing would be same for bow kill?

Plinker