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I recently changed to a drop away rest and have found my groupings much better and now have peace of mind that I am getting complete fletch clearance.For me drop aways are the way to go. [Eek!]
 
Posts: 11 | Location: South Africa | Registered: 28 February 2003Reply With Quote
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Hi Chris,

Welcome to the forums!

I had a hard time deciding between a drop away and the whisker biscuit. I went with the biscuit due to it's ability to hold an arrow at any angle.

Which drop away did you go with?
 
Posts: 19743 | Location: The LOST Nation | Registered: 27 March 2001Reply With Quote
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The Trophy Taker and so far has proved very durable.We abviously dont have the range here to choose from and I have just learnt about the whisker biscuit very enteresting ,have never seen one here in any of our shops.
 
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I promise you that you'll see mine when I come out in August!
 
Posts: 19743 | Location: The LOST Nation | Registered: 27 March 2001Reply With Quote
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Ann, I will show you mine, if you will show me yours too!! Sorry, I just could not pass that up...
I had a wisker biscuit but found it was a bit noisy on the draw for white tail hunting in the cold. I tried to quiet down by cutting some of the wiskers off, but gave up. Nice rest though.
I now have a Zero Effect from Muzzy. I like it but it does have alot of "Monkey Motion" going on and that kinda worries me. I have always gone by the KISS method.... Keep It Simple Stupid, so this is a little "scarry" for me.
 
Posts: 594 | Location: Plano Texas | Registered: 15 July 2002Reply With Quote
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Gang I put the "trap door" on my Parker prior to this past season. Man its great. No cables...just falls away when the bow goes off. Ive gone back to shooting 4 - 4" vanes on carbons at that. Ive also heard some funny stories about shooting their biscuits in the rain...they say its like jumping into a puddle with both feet....
 
Posts: 569 | Location: VA, USA | Registered: 22 January 2002Reply With Quote
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I spent my money on a Trap Door drop away and had nothing but problems with it. I found it trickey to keep the arrow on during the draw, and no matter how many times I adjusted the tention, I was still getting colour on the black shrink. That indicates that the fletching are not clearing. Also I had the darn thing drop prematurly a few times. It seemed the more I shot it the worse it got. To me there is too many problems for me to consider it a hunting rest.

My groups also got worse as use went on. I changed to a Quick Tune 3000 standard rest and went back to destroying arrows due to tight groups. My friend shoots the trap door and he loves it so it may be me or a faulty rest.

Quick Tune makes a drop away that looks more hunter friendly. The rest has a much larger fork that prevents the arrow from slipping off if you get a little excited. I'm happy with my quick tune so I may try their drop away in the future.
 
Posts: 4326 | Location: Under the North Star! | Registered: 25 December 2002Reply With Quote
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Not saying nothing bad a bount the whisker biscuit the only one I have seen was in cabela's but how can you keep your arrow in the same place every time dont under stand how it works looks like that would kill your groups or are thay more to it than that. How does that Whisker biscuit work.
 
Posts: 302 | Location: west virginia | Registered: 10 December 2002Reply With Quote
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Guys, I put the biscuit on in July and will never look back. No more pins to have wear down, no more arrows bouncing off and making noise. I had a lot of trouble with constant adjustment with traditional prong rests, that tubing continues to wear and I just got sick of it. I also like to try my hand at walk and stalk and I can do it efficiently and securely as this device holds the arrow in place.

I've killed deer, rabbit and bison with it since. Used it in Africa on a bushpig but he got away with 8 inches of arrow in him. Thing is, everything I shot at did not spook at any sound made by my draw. I am not a distance shooter and I have not altered the biscuit in any way! I like everything 20 yards or less. I shoot a lot and have never lost a fletch with it either.

I looked hard at the Zero Effect but didn't want moving parts.

I have never had to adjust the biscuit since putting it on my bow and center shooting it.

The biscuit did slow my arrow speed by 3 feet per second but that is not very much. Nothing has jumped my slow string (242 fps) yet. I am sold and will put another one on my back up bow. Bye, bye Quick Tune.......

One Quick Tune 3000 for sale, anyone interested?
 
Posts: 19743 | Location: The LOST Nation | Registered: 27 March 2001Reply With Quote
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Ann,,you're right for that application, ground hunting/stalking the biscuit is the ticket.
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Posts: 569 | Location: VA, USA | Registered: 22 January 2002Reply With Quote
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Some one tell me I'm wrong but I see a problem that could develope with the Whisker Biscuit.

We have a late bow season for deer here that runs into Dec. 10. What happens when you get snow on this thing then you bring it into your truck to change locations. The snow melts and it gets wet. Then you get back out to the sub zero weather and the whiskers freeze together. Will this effect the performance or make some loud noise?

I think I want to have something a little more reliable. Drop away's have their problems when they get wet and freeze also.
 
Posts: 4326 | Location: Under the North Star! | Registered: 25 December 2002Reply With Quote
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The whisker biscuit is trouble free and forgiving. Water does not effect the plastic bristles. My boys shoot theirs great. I would have one also, but the bow I bought has a NAP Quicktune 2000 on it. I have not shot a bow in 25 years and I immediately started shooting bullseyes with the 2000 set up. I am very impressed with it and it is quiet and apparently well-made. If I was to set up a new bow, though, it would be with a biscuit.
 
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For those of you considering the Whisker Biscuit, the same company is now introducing the Quick Shot - it looks like a WB with a "wedge" cut out at the 10 o'clock position. This allows you to load the arrow from the side, rather than having to pass the point of the arrow through the rest.
 
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In my opinion compounds are already pushing the limits on dependability before you even start bolting on accessories. That is why i keep my compound simple. I don't use a peep I use a kisser. I use a Golden Key TM style rest. Not sure why people make such a big thing about fletch contact. I shoot heavy helical and never had a problem. Seems that on a drop away you just have one more gadget that you don't need that can fail in the field. I have had the same GK rest for 10 years now, no problems.
 
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I'm more concerned about water when it freezes. Ice. Do those bristles stick together or harden or make nose or change the flight of the arrow? If anyone has delt with these conditions, cure my curiosity.
 
Posts: 4326 | Location: Under the North Star! | Registered: 25 December 2002Reply With Quote
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Boiler,

I have had no problems at all. I've sent plenty of snowy arrows through it as they get messy from hitting the target. Snow has built up on the bristles and did not affect anything. No problems, no more noise. I took my bison on a very cold day. They never heard my draw.
 
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I highly recommend a Napp 2000 or 4000 Quicktune Drop Away rest. I have used them on my Mathews Legacy, Mathews SQ2 and now my Parker 31 Ultra-Lite with just outstanding results! The forks are quite wide, which will pick up the arrow even if you have it tilted and the rubber pad keeps the arrow in place and quiet. Hope this helps.
(see the Nap 4000 on my Parker31 Ulra-Lite below) www.newarchery.com or 1-800-323-1279
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What is that device you have in front of your Quicktune? I'm sure it's for keeping your arrow from jumping and hitting the riser but what is it? [Smile]
 
Posts: 4326 | Location: Under the North Star! | Registered: 25 December 2002Reply With Quote
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Boilerroom,
That rubber arrow holder comes with all Nap 2000 & 4000 Quick Tune Drop Away Rests. It is self adhesive. Whats nice about it, you can put one finger over your arrow while its in the rest and the arrow stays put. Great while stalking or getting ready for a shot. The rubber seems to really keep the arrow in place until you draw then the rest pulls the arrow up. With an arrow in place on the rubber you can actually turn the bow to severe angles and the arrow stays in place. I have been shooting really good with these rests. Hope this helps.

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Todd,
I also have a QT. It is a 2000. I love it and my bow is very easy to shoot. I noticed that you put some material on the forks of the rest. Does that make it quieter and how much drag does it add when you are drawing the arrow through it? It seems like my rest is a little bit noisier than I would like it when I draw my carbons through it.
 
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I tried a few rests and liked the accuracy of the drop aways but as others have said in this topic the arrows would not stay on durring hunting situations. I took some steel of the same diamiter as the origonal and made new arms that go out and up again as my fethers do. I made them to go tight to my riser but not touch it so my arrow can not fall off to the inside, and out as far as my shelf. It cradles my shaft and gives it performance, sounds erotic!
 
Posts: 94 | Location: WI MI border | Registered: 25 March 2003Reply With Quote
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If you are using strait fletch to moderate helical fletched arrows I see no advantages for using a drop away rest.
however if you like radical helical in your fletchings like I do a good fallaway is definately a must have IMO
I have found the PowerDrop and the Miriage from GK to be very good rests.
I probably like the PD best brcause it stays up until the arrow is launched
 
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