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Now that I have come over to the Dark Side  I have a couple of questions.My sight came in today for my new bow,a Mathews DXT, now set at 62 lbs, shooting Easton Axis arrows, 100gr broadheads, Mangus Buzz Cut, total arrow weight 400 grains. At 58 lbs the bow shot 250fps. My sight is the HHA Single pin. I have it sighted in at 20 yards, and plan to work my way back, next week at the deer lease. My question is approx what will be the drop from 20 to 30 yards and the drop from 30 to 40. Or should I just ease back 5 yards at a time. I ask because I do not want to miss the target on my first shots when changing distances. DOUBLE RIFLE SHOOTERS SOCIETY | ||
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N E, Not exactly sure what the question is but, here are a couple of pictures that may help you out. This is using my top (20 yard) pin from 20 yards (top arrow) then stepping back to 30 yards and using the same pin then back to 40 yards still using the 20 yard pin.  This is my pin settings. Top is 20 then 30 then 40..50..60..70 and the bottom is 80 yards. You can see the difference between them, which is I think what you are asking??  My bow is shooting a 430grn arrow at about 270 fps....... Hope this helps with what you are looking for! ______________________ Smedley  ______________________ From Audacity of Hope: 'I will stand with the Muslims should the political winds shift in an ugly direction.' B.H.Obullshitter ------------------------------------ "Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery" Winston Churchill ------------------------------------ "..it does not require a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority keen to set brush fires in people's minds.." Samuel Adams ------------------------------------ Facts are immaterial to liberals. Twisted perceptions however are invaluable. ------------------------------------ We Americans were tired of being thought of as dumb, by the rest of the world. So we went to the polls in November 2008 and removed all doubt.....let's not do it again in 2012 please. | |||
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Smedley Excellent. Thanks a bunch. That is exactly what I was asking. Also the picture of the pins is a great help as well. DOUBLE RIFLE SHOOTERS SOCIETY | |||
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smedley thats a great example for N.E.450#2. I also use a 7 pin sight and I never thought to do this experiment but I can see good reasons for it and I will do it sometime. What weight is your bow set at? mine is 70 pound so the same experiment would not mirror the results of of N.E.'s 62# but still gives him a idea of whats going on. Mr T wecome to the dark side. I crossed over just after you left here last year and I've really been enjoying it. DRSS NRA life AK Master Guide 124 | |||
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I R shooting a '07 Guardian @ 70 lbs., 27 1/2 DL. The arrows are Easton FMJ's with 4" feathers cut at 25" and 125's leading the way. The pins aren't perfect yet, but...they are close! I think I am high with the 20 and 30 and right the 40 may be a little low. (I been tinkering again) ______________________ Smedley ______________________ From Audacity of Hope: 'I will stand with the Muslims should the political winds shift in an ugly direction.' B.H.Obullshitter ------------------------------------ "Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery" Winston Churchill ------------------------------------ "..it does not require a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority keen to set brush fires in people's minds.." Samuel Adams ------------------------------------ Facts are immaterial to liberals. Twisted perceptions however are invaluable. ------------------------------------ We Americans were tired of being thought of as dumb, by the rest of the world. So we went to the polls in November 2008 and removed all doubt.....let's not do it again in 2012 please. | |||
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AKshooter Good to hear from you. What bow and broadheads are you going with? I was just outside shooting my bow in the front yard at 20 yards. I put a Burt Coyote Lumenok on one of my broadhead arrows. I needed 8 clockwise clicks to get zero vs my field points and my broadheads with regular nocks. I confirmed this when I went back to shooting the regular knocked arrows. I will check this out some more, but it would be a simple matter to change the sights when hunting with the Lumenok. I am not going to do any 30 and over yard shooting until I get to the deer lease. So far I like the one pin sight. It is the best for my vision for sure. I also like the click "windage" adjustments. DOUBLE RIFLE SHOOTERS SOCIETY | |||
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Excellent pix, Smedly. My bow is about the same. I was never a fan of the "one pin". Figured I'd just as soon go bareback. I do know that knowing the drop is important in field archery where some targets are at 80 yards or more. "Stepping pins" gives you some degree of comfort with only 5 pins on your sight. RETIRED Taxidermist | |||
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NE450#2 I'm shooting a Archery Research AR37 I have the truglo extream 7 pin sight with click adjustments for both elevation and windage. I'm with you on the click adjustments I woulden't do it any other way but that might be how old rifle hunters like us make the transition to archery. I had the same expireance you had with the broadheads shooting way to the left after sighting in with field points so I just said screw it and went with the 100 gr. Rage and they hit spot on with the field points. This will be fine for deer and smaller but I know that if / when I hunt for bigger game I'll need to go with a broadhead but I'll cross that bridge when I come to it. That's what those click adjustments are for. DRSS NRA life AK Master Guide 124 | |||
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NE 450#2 Heres a photo from my first day with my bow. This is at 50 yds. I'm sure with the way you shoot you'll have simeler results once you move out to longer range. I find that things start to fall apart once you go beyond 50 yds but I still have a lot to learn.  DRSS NRA life AK Master Guide 124 | |||
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AKshooter, I don't agree with you AT ALL. With a group like that at 50 yards, you don't have a whole lot to be taught. Excellent shooting. RETIRED Taxidermist | |||
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Stick with it and RELAX...... Here is something to shoot for: (pun intended)  (of course this is for a little bragging too but) This is what can be accomplished at 80 with some work!!! I plan on continuing to work at 80 as it makes the closer somewhat easier. (although I make sure I shoot at different distances as much as I can .... including less than 10 yards(I only shoot one arrow at one target when less than 40 as it gets expensive once in a while)) ______________________ Smedley ______________________ From Audacity of Hope: 'I will stand with the Muslims should the political winds shift in an ugly direction.' B.H.Obullshitter ------------------------------------ "Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery" Winston Churchill ------------------------------------ "..it does not require a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority keen to set brush fires in people's minds.." Samuel Adams ------------------------------------ Facts are immaterial to liberals. Twisted perceptions however are invaluable. ------------------------------------ We Americans were tired of being thought of as dumb, by the rest of the world. So we went to the polls in November 2008 and removed all doubt.....let's not do it again in 2012 please. | |||
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Gents, Thanks for the info and the pictures. That is some good shooting. My broadheads hit pretty much with my field points at 20 yards but with the lumenoks it caused the shift in "windage". I will do some longer distance shooting at the lease next week. I am kinda hesitant on mechanical broadheads. DOUBLE RIFLE SHOOTERS SOCIETY | |||
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OK Smedley, now you're getting insulting. A 4.5 inch group at 80 yards???? The older I get the better I was, but I ain't that old yet cause it don't get much better.  RETIRED Taxidermist | |||
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That was a GOOD day.... Too bad they ain't all like that.... I shoot everyday...the better I make myself, the better I will feel whenI make a shot on an animal. I don't want to wound and animal, a clean dispatch is much more prefered. I consider myself very lucky to be able to come home from the grind, kick off the steel toes and grab my bow. It takes time but to me it is worth it.... PS, It took a LOT of hours of working on form and release to get even close to this...like I said though, there is some bragging going on here  PPS, It can be done, it just takes time...and you don't need an 80 yard target to do it..practice even at 10 yards is practice, just use an asprin for a target... ______________________ Smedley ______________________ From Audacity of Hope: 'I will stand with the Muslims should the political winds shift in an ugly direction.' B.H.Obullshitter ------------------------------------ "Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery" Winston Churchill ------------------------------------ "..it does not require a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority keen to set brush fires in people's minds.." Samuel Adams ------------------------------------ Facts are immaterial to liberals. Twisted perceptions however are invaluable. ------------------------------------ We Americans were tired of being thought of as dumb, by the rest of the world. So we went to the polls in November 2008 and removed all doubt.....let's not do it again in 2012 please. | |||
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Guys, I've been bowhunting for 35 years, started out with a Bear Whitetail hunter.. (six pulley).. and am still learning every time I get more equipt. The best thing I've gotten recently is a EZ eye lazer for getting true center shot. Now with my old outdated Parker Hornet, 100 gr field points, 100 gr Rage three blade mechanicals and 100 gr Muzzy four blade all shoot to same point of aim.. I'll use the Rage tomorrow on an antelope hunt, and the Muzzys on elk in a couple of weeks. Les | |||
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