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Tred was up doing a show on blackbear hunting, I was given the opportunity to run my hounds on bear. I never knew him before his spinal stroke but I can say he is a man to look up to, He has a positive attitude on life, like not many people i have met. And yes we did get a nice bear for him, but you will have to wait for the show to air next fall. All in all I would do it again in a heart beat. Probably the most fullfilling hunt of my life, watching him harvest the bear from his wheelchair with his long bow.
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I don't necessarily agree with Tred's opinions on things, but I am glad to hear that he's recovered from his stroke!
 
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Raw deal he got.....hopefully, he's in a better place mentally than he was awhile back. It's by the grace of God that he has friends around like you to take him on these hunts.
 
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God Bless both of you. It's good news that he can pull that longbow well enough to get some hunting in. Thank you for getting him out again.

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Tred seems to be in good spirits,I am sure he has better days then others, He was able to pull a 55lb bow for this hunt and that took him around 8 months of training to work up from 20lbs. he spent about an hour giving my nine yearold daughter a lesson on instinctive shooting. Man was she happy. I never knew Tred before this hunt but would look forward to spending more time with him in the future. I will post the times and dates this show should air this fall when we get closer to the date.



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I would think that his stroke has helped tone him down a bit. He was quite the arrogant SOB before he had it. However, I respect the fact that he has not let physical shortcoming stop him from pursuing his dreams.
 
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Arrogant?? Opinionated but not arrogant. I watched him regularly and found him to be a purist and focused on doing things the "right" way. Never arrogant or snobby or uppity.
 
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I would think that his stroke has helped tone him down a bit. He was quite the arrogant SOB before he had it. However, I respect the fact that he has not let physical shortcoming stop him from pursuing his dreams.


Have you met him in person?

I think it very dangerous to label someone an "arrogant SOB" based on a TV persona. A close friend of mine knows him quite well, and that characterization is not even remotely similar to what I've been told he's like.
 
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Nope, haven't met him. I base my opinion on the arrogant persona he projects on TV. I don't know him, I know who he wants the public to see. I have watched him repeatedly brag and swagger about, and I've also watched him take multiple unethical shots on game. That is an SOB. My opinion is not going to change just because he had a stroke.
 
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Oh, and the "right way" my arse. Slinging arrows at moving caribou at 40 yards is not the "right way." You must be a rifle hunter.
 
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And you're just a jackass. Anyone who can turn a thread like this into "bash the paraplegic" needs his head examined. You must be one miserable SOB......counselor.
 
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Nope, he's not a miserable SOB. I too have seen what appears to be unethical shots on game. Watch his show and then tell me if you agree with everything Tred does.... diggin
 
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You must be a rifle hunter.


Ouch! It's one thing to disagree--but that comment is just mean! Big Grin

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I base my opinion on the arrogant persona he projects on TV. I don't know him, I know who he wants the public to see. I have watched him repeatedly brag and swagger about, and I've also watched him take multiple unethical shots on game.

I wonder if this situation is like Mark Sullivan? His videos purvey an image quite different from how he acts while hunting off-camera with clients. At least, that is what I'm told by some who have actually hunted with him.

I had figured he was just a show-boater. Apparently, he isn't that way on safari off-camera. Reckon the same deal holds for TB? Just wondering.


Good hunting,

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Nope, he's not a miserable SOB. I too have seen what appears to be unethical shots on game. Watch his show and then tell me if you agree with everything Tred does.... diggin


I've seen every show......and yes, I've seen arrows flying indiscriminately at caribou on the run at 40yds. Did I say I agree with everything he does? I never said I worship the guy, only that I disagreed with calling him an arrogant SOB.

You go right ahead and pat your buddy on the back for calling a paraplegic an "arrogant SOB" without having met him. Google his charity fishing tournament for The Boys and Girls Club and compare that to what you and your pal do for charity. Best of luck to both of you.

Carry on.
 
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I am starting to think that posting the positive experiance both my daughter and myself had on here was a mistake. I have to call him this morning I will ask him if he is an arrogant SOB. killpc



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Thanks for posting your experiences, CH! Hang out around here long enough and you'll find that it is hard to say much without someone objecting to it. Whatever else TB may be, it sounds as though he conducted himself as a classy gentleman during your interactions.

I used to pick Craig Boddington apart in my mind. I don't agree with everything he says or writes, but it occurred to me one day that I was just jealous that he's had soooo much more time in the field hunting than have I.


Good hunting,

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I was merely stating that he was an asshole before he had the stroke and I'm glad that it may have changed him. The fact that he had a stroke is not going to make me change my opinion on who he was prior thereto. Sorry to ruffle your feathers, sweet pea. I would be happy to tell him the same thing if you so desire and he wants to chat with me. I feel strongly enough about him that I wrote some of his sponsors and asked that they pull their sponsorships last year due to his lack of ethics. He's a jerkoff, or at least he was.
 
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I was merely stating that he was an asshole before he had the stroke and I'm glad that it may have changed him. The fact that he had a stroke is not going to make me change my opinion on who he was prior thereto. Sorry to ruffle your feathers, sweet pea. I would be happy to tell him the same thing if you so desire and he wants to chat with me. I feel strongly enough about him that I wrote some of his sponsors and asked that they pull their sponsorships last year due to his lack of ethics. He's a jerkoff, or at least he was.


I'm guessing you're an attorney, you heartless scumbag. And I'd be happy to tell you that if you want to "chat with me".

I was never in love with the guy or his show......but a slimey, low-life lawyer has now made me his biggest advocate.
 
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Honey, why are you taking this so personally? I bet you're a road-rager too, huh? Someone cuts you off and you pull up, flick 'em off, and motion them to pull over. if you like, I'll PM you my address and you can come by and "chat with me." I'll give you $100 if you do.

You are really quick, too. How did you ever figure out I was an attorney based on my handle? And guess what, I'm from . . .drum roll . . . the Carolinas.

The bottom line is that you need to chill out and not get your panties in a wad about someone else's well-founded opinion. You macho cyber-fags that have never thrown a punch in your life love to get on a website and start making threats. The bottom line is that I don't like the guy and I don't have to. Prior to his stroke, I would guess that most other folks didn't like him either. He was a blow hard. He was arrogant. He was a self-promoter. I don't like people like that. And, finally, he is unethical. Period. I don't know what he's like now. I only know how he allowed himself to be portrayed on his own show. The fact that he's now a paraplegic is irrelevant and inconsequential to his pre-injury character. That was all I was speaking to.

Finally, I am neither slimey nor a low-life. I have a heart, and I'm not a scumbag either. I just don't like Tred Barta and you're taking it personally.

You can now rant and rave and call me some more names if it pleases you, but I will not again respond to your drivel.
 
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Looking in the mirror on that last post tough guy? Must have lost a whiplash case today, huh? CRYBABY

Go chase another ambulance.
 
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CC, I see you know how to rain on a guys parade. It is stupid comments like yours that need to be kept in your head. Nobody really cares how you feel about TB so keep it to your self.



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practice enough , you can take ethical running shots with stick bows . something a lot of compound boys know nothing about .
I guess Fred Bear was an sob too based on that observation.
 
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practice enough , you can take ethical running shots with stick bows . something a lot of compound boys know nothing about .
I guess Fred Bear was an sob too based on that observation.


Mo, I agree that ethical shots on moving game can be taken. I've done it and I know many others that are willing to do the same.

However, I've heard Tred claim in several shows that his effective range with a longbow was less than 20 yards.

If that is the case, then what was he doing shooting at caribou MOVING THRU THE BRUSH, at at least twice as far as his effective range?

I don't have any dog in this fight, but while I'm glad that he's up and moving around, I've seen too many things on his show that never should have made it off the cutting room floor!
 
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Sof, I agree with you and I believe his effective range at the time was beyond his stated for tv range of 20 yds , which is a chip shot for a guy that is proficient with traditional equipment. But you know caribou are hunted pretty much on open tundra , I saw his shows and thought he had an arrogant attitude but did admire his spunk and sometimes the shot just feels right and you take it . My longest running shot was 45 yds right through the heart on a white tail many years ago, but I would not take that shot these days.
I know Fred Bear ,Will Compton , Art Young , Saxton Pope all shot game at 80yds or so but I agree you don't spray arrows all over the place just because you have a longbow or recurve in your hand. I hope Mr. Barta can continue to enjoy the outdoors,he's one of those guys that will die with his boots on.
 
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Mr Barta did say right now he was very accurate out to 20 yards when shooting on an incline, like he did on the bear. The shot was only 13 yards but the bear was much higher then he had practised. He slid that arrow through a small opening in the branches and made a great shot killing the bear in no time flat. He talked about shooting accurate groups and taking animals out to 40 yards in the past. I hope his health continues to improve and has many days left in the woods and on the water.



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Anyone know a cheesy lawyer in N/S Carolina? I just spilled a cup of coffee on my nuts and I think it may have been too hot......thinking maybe I can get a $100 settlement or something. rotflmo



Sorry, couldn't help myself.......this douchebag just rubbed me the wrong way. Too bad he doesn't have any sponsors I could call to bad mouth him.
 
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Anyone know a cheesy lawyer in N/S Carolina? I just spilled a cup of coffee on my nuts and I think it may have been too hot......thinking maybe I can get a $100 settlement or something. rotflmo



Sorry, couldn't help myself.......this douchebag just rubbed me the wrong way. Too bad he doesn't have any sponsors I could call to bad mouth him.

jumping
 
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Looks like the "arrogant SOB" twisted someone else's arm to hire him.....

Casa Vieja Lodge Names Capt. Tred Barta Director of Fishing
Operations and Fleet Captain

Jim Turner and Casa Vieja Lodge announced today that Captain Tred Barta has been named
Director of Fishing Operations and Fleet Captain at the world famous Lodge.

Puerto San Jose, Guatemala, July 8, 2010 -- Casa Vieja Lodge announced today that Captain Tred
Barta has been named Director of Fishing Operations and Fleet Captain at the world famous Lodge.
As an internationally recognized writer, hunter, angler and all around outdoorsman, Captain Barta
brings over 30 years of ultra-light tackle fishing, billfish tournament creation and marketing skills to
Casa Vieja Lodge. He has hosted Versus TV’s “The Best and Worst of Tred Barta”; founded the Barta
Blue Marlin Classic Tournament; the Barta Boys and Girls Billfish Tournament; and raised over $1
million for the IGFA Junior Angler’s Program. In addition, he holds several fishing and bow hunting
records.
Capt. Barta was the only man to ever hold the triple crown of light tackle tuna records: a 65 lb.
yellowfin on six pound, a 63 1/2 lb bluefin tuna on 12 pound, and a 215 lb. big eye tuna on 20 pound
line. His 38.6 lb. dolphin is the existing world record on six pound fly tippet and is an excellent fly
fisherman and instructor.
“Captain Barta is exactly the right person to direct our fishing operations” said Casa Vieja Lodge’s
owner Jim Turner.
About Casa Vieja Lodge
Opened in 2006, Casa Vieja Lodge is located in the town of Puerto San Jose, on the Pacific coast of
Guatemala. The lodge has 18 deluxe rooms, each with full baths and air conditioning. The grounds
are spacious with swimming pool, outdoor dining, satellite tv and game room. The lodge has six boats
featuring American captains like Ron Hamlin, Chris and Mike Sheeder and Jason Brice.
Herbert S. Rosell
Director of Operations - Casa Vieja Lodge
800-882-4665 ~ 305-854-4665
info@casaviejalodge.com
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If it were me I wouldn't get on here and let people know I was an attorney. It will open you up to people thinking you may know something. And it will be down hill from there. As far a Tred goes I think he's great. There is nothing wrong with someone having confidence in there beliefs. If he's arrogant so what. If you don't like him then why not turn off the TV and do something productive. Why is it on the internet people who would otherwise be pansies turn into Rambos?


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I'm glad to hear he is still able to hunt after his stroke.



What ever everyone thinks of his shows is their own opinion.


I'm sure if anyone on this forum became a paraplegic they would pray that they were able to go hunting, fishing, shooting, or reload again.

I know I would.


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I bet TB would mop the room up with CC if they ever scrapped Cool.

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I think Barta is great. I don't take his "hard way" thinking as self promotion or arrogant. He just chooses to do things in a different way and i respect that.
 
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Just caught the show referenced in the original post.....bravo Leonard and Shannon, bravo! What a testament to the human spirit....for every single one of those involved.

I already knew who my guide would be when I go to BC for bear.....this just reinforced it.

And nice job with the hounds, Doug.....scenting from the truck is awesome!
 
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Great show! Very heart warming to see a man's passion has not been snuffed by "tragedy". Talk about a determined individual. He is an inspiration to everyone down on their luck. I'm sure there was heart break and doubt but the rugged individual, with encouragement from the one's closest to him, always prevails.
His persona/personality reminds me of Teddy Roosevelt's speech about "Its not the critic that counts...".

Perry
 
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Holy Hell, I thought i might add a nice comment about TB but i think i'll pass, um except this, I may not agree with everything he says or does but then again people could say the same about me. Don't throw stones, everyone has a closet thats full i'm sure.
 
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Norton, have you hunted with Leonard in the past?? Tred wants to come back and film 2 bears with the dogs next spring. Any suggestions from those who have seen the show would be appreciated.
Was there any credit given to Skinner Creek hunts, I have not seen the show and probably won't until Tred brings me a copy.

Tred wants to come and get a cougar this winter as well, I just have to figure out how to transport him around in the snow.
The feed back would be good.
Thanks Doug



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TB does have his opinions, doesn't he?
I'm sure glad to hear he is back on his feet, though. I don't think it was a stroke he suffered, though, was it? I thought it turned out to be something really rare, like an immune reaction to his own blood vessels or some such.
Doug, hope you can get Tred his cougar.


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Nah, Doug.....I haven't hunted with Leonard, just seen many shows with him guiding. I can't recall whether or not Skinner Creek was mentioned. As far as suggestions, I'll have to watch it again but......what's better for someone in TB's condition than to have the dogs catch a scent trail from the truck? Big Grin

Let me give 'er some thought and I'll get back to you. Wait, here's an idea.....have a doc from NH up to make sure TB is in A-OK condition during the hunt. Wink
 
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Tred want to ride along with the dogs and release them on a good strike. The Camera boys who were excellent didn't feel we had time. This is one thing Tred want to experiance. The Doctor thing may be an option. dancing



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