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Howdy fellers,

I just can't see anymore and need to put something on my carry pistol in case I actually need it.

I have been shooting a Trijicon RMR 06 on my double rifle and love it.

How is the best way to put a similar sight on a Gvt model 1911?


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Lane, If you get Dillon's "Blue Press" monthly mag they have quite a few sights listed; so does Brownell's. I went shooting with a friend that had the red dot Trijicon on his STI 38 super + it was a joy to shoot. Wherever the dot was so was your bullet.


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I have a Burris on a 9mm/38 sup slide. Works fine.

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ledvm, there was a recent discussion here:

http://forums.accuratereloadin...1012131/m/6941062652

The issue seems to be the dovetail rear sight mount, and the fact that the slide on a 1911 is rounded.
Good luck, please post your results.

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i was told that it ain't gonna happen so i went with a diff platform
 
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This is easy to do. you want the trijicon mount with back up rear sight and the tirjicon raised front sight. Gunsmith mills the slide to fit. Look on the Nightforce website for examples
 
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Thanks fellers for all replies.

I know it can be done...was just hoping to find someone who had been through the process to give me their recommendations on mounts. I likely will use a Fastfire III or maybe a Docter for smaller size.

If anyone can chime in on mounts... I would be much obliged.

This company - https://www.diamonddcustomleather.com/ - will make you a holster for a 1911 with a reflex.


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Not for everyone but I practice instinctive shooting in my old age, and it works rather well. but Ive been doing that since 1954 as it was required by the El Paso Police Dept. pistol or rifle, it works up to 25 to 50 yards with rifle and a bit less with a pistol..


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The FF3 can be ordered with a 1911 base. The dovetail piece and a curved plate for the sight.

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Not for everyone but I practice instinctive shooting in my old age, and it works rather well. but Ive been doing that since 1954 as it was required by the El Paso Police Dept. pistol or rifle, it works up to 25 to 50 yards with rifle and a bit less with a pistol..


I shoot instinctively pretty well and have been relying on that for the last few years. With my progressive lens glasses and time I shoot well with standard sights. That said after shooting my .500 NE for the last 5 years with one...reflex sights are really effective inside 50 yds, fast, and don’t require the right focal plane in my glasses or even glasses at at.

I believe (though the proof will be in the pudding) one will be the cat’s meow for a pistol.


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I am told that their are 1911's made (Kimber???) that come with slides pre-machined for the application of reflex sights. Can anyone elaborate?


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This is my 1982 Auto Ord 45 with a Colt 9mm top. Burris Fastfire sight.





Here's a Wilson with co mounted red dot and irons. My buddy has one without the muzzle brake.

 
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Hi Rich,
Are those dovetail mounts in slot for rear sight or milled into the slide mounts?


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Burris supplied dovetail filler that is threaded for 2 screws, then a curved or stepped mount on top.
 
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tu2 Thank you kindly.


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The ones I have had best luck with had the slide milled. The other variants just sit too high if you are used to iron sights. It is a "learnable" difference, but if you still play with regular irons it will cause some issues with muscle memory and hunting for your dot under time pressure.
 
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Well I found a Kimber that came from the factory with the Vortex reflex. I finally had time to sight it in.

Damn...what a game changer just like when I added one to my double .500 NE.

I was even able to stand, shoot off-hand, and hit a 10” gong consistently at 50 yds!


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Well I found a Kimber that came from the factory with the Vortex reflex. I finally had time to sight it in.

Damn...what a game changer just like when I added one to my double .500 NE.

I was even able to stand, shoot off-hand, and hit a 10” gong consistently at 50 yds!



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Red dots are game changers. I won’t buy a new pistol without a red dot cut.

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At 59 and a pretty serious competitive pistol shooter red dots are the way to go. The picture of the Wilson above is exactly what I use for a carry gun. You are best off with the RMR because they are much stouter than other choices. The wilson shows the correct mounting on a 1911 as well.
 
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I put an RM 06 RMR on my .500 NE double and knew after using it a couple of years that it was the way.

This Kimber with the Vortex reflex just proved to me to give up totally on irons and go reflex.


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Glad you got this all sorted out Lane. I am in the same boat regarding open handgun sights, although I seem to be able to see them on my little Bulldog well enough to cover close range. But hand me a Super Blackhawk and my eyes are about useless. Ordered a pair of glasses online and will see if they help. Never tried this before, and hope they get my RX right.


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I don’t really have terrible eyes...just not eyes for precision shooting with irons any longer. I have the best glasses made and they help.

That said I can outshoot myself any day of the week with a reflex sight and no glasses vs the best glasses and the easiest to see irons.


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I've recently switched to Holosun HE507C sights. They are very small and sit quite low. I only use them for competition though, not for carry. I prefer a green dot.

Mounting on a 1911 slide that has not been milled is an extreme compromise. As has been mentioned earlier, the shift in muscle memory is dramatic.
 
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I am going to carry mine.


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This is interesting. I’m not seeing any better than I once could. I have a few decent 1911s ranging from STI to Kimber to Colt.

No, I will not have them milled to fit, but that WC Richj posted looks wicked! John Browning would be proud of the evolution.

I do wonder how those RMR wights fare if bumped.


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Bill, did your glasses help? I have avoided doing glasses by mail just like boots; it seems a recipe for disaster, but hope it worked out for you.


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