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Can a deer tell the difference between a 243Win and a 257Roberts? Me thinks not.

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Mike

What I have learned on AR:
1. The proper answer to: Where is the best place to get a steak dinner? is…you really want pork chops.
2. Big game animals can tell the difference between .015 of an inch in diameter, 15 grains of bullet weight, and 150 fps.
3. The laws of physics do not apply to firearms in that there is a difference in the performance of two identical projectiles launched at the same velocity if they came from different cartridges and some cartridges are so powerful their kinetic energy can knock big game off its feet but not knock the shooter who fired it off their feet.
4. While a double rifle is the perfect DGR, every 375HH bolt gun needs to be modified so it can carry at least 5 down.
5. While a floor plate and a detachable box magazine both use a mechanical latch, only the floor plate latch is reliable. Disregard the fact that almost every modern military rifle uses a detachable box magazine including those chambered in 50 BMG.
6. The Remington 700 is unreliable regardless of the fact it is the basis of the USMC M40 sniper rifle for 40+ years with no changes to the receiver or extractor and is the choice of more military and law enforcement sniper units than any other rifle.
7. PF actions are not suitable for a DGR and it is irrelevant that the M1, M14, M16, & AK47 which were designed for hunting men that can shoot back are all PF actions.
8. 95 deg F in Africa is different than 95 deg F in TX or CA and that is why you must worry about ammunition temperature in Africa (regardless that most safaris take place in winter) but not in TX or in CA.
9. The size of the ding in the gun's finish doesn't matter, what matters is whether the ding occurred in the safe or in the field because safe dings are ok but field dings are worse.
10. One in a row is a trend, two in a row is statistically significant, and three similar occurrences in a row is an irrefutable fact.
11. The AR Posting Quotient: the total number of posts divided by the number of days as a member: if greater than 2.5, recommend therapy.
12. Never buy a WSM or RCM cartridge for a safari rifle because if they lose your ammo you can't find replacement ammo but don't worry, 280 Rem, 338-06, 35 Whelen, and all Weatherby cartridges abound in Africa.
13. Never buy a WSM or RCM cartridge for your go to rifle in the USA because if they lose your ammo you can't find replacement ammo but don't worry, 280 Rem, 338-06, 35 Whelen, 9,3x62 and all Weatherby cartridges abound in back country stores.

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Originally posted by N E 450 No2:
I have seen a lot of deer, and antelope shot with the 243, 6mm Remington, 25/06, and the 257 WBY Mag.

I have personally shot several deer with the 243, and several with a 257 WBY Mag.

Out to 400 yards I have not seen any difference between any of these cartridges. I used Sierra 100gr and Nolser 95 gr Partitions in the 243, and 100gr Hornady, 100gr Nosler Partition, and 120gr Nosler Partition, all Weatherby factory loads in the 257 WBY Mag.

I would put the 250 Savage and the 257 Roberts in this same group.

After all you can only kill a deer so dead.

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Originally posted by vapodog:

Most definitely.....and as a matter of fact, I've asked many dead deer if they could tell the difference and they have all replied that the .257 Roberts is most definitely the more feared cartridge.

Learn the language of dead deer and just ask them yourself!

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So, I figure it has to do with the rifle as much as the cartridge. For one thing the 257 rifle I had was not accurate, and I had one deer get away wounded, which was my fault not the rifle or cartridge.

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Originally posted by Kabluewy:
So, I figure it has to do with the rifle as much as the cartridge. For one thing the 257 rifle I had was not accurate, and I had one deer get away wounded, which was my fault not the rifle or cartridge.

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Originally posted by Crazyhorseconsulting:
Pure BS of the smelliest kind KB. You just simply Did Not place the bullet where it should have went, end of story.

You muffed the shot and find/found it easier to blame the gun, than to admit to your foul up.

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Originally posted by Kabluewy:
If the 257 R would fit into an AR15, there wouldn't be a problem.

OTOH, I wouldn't use a 223 for deer or hogs in any rifle.

As I said, the 6.5 Grendel cartridge is about the same in performance as the 257R, so if liking the 6.5 Grendel is blasphemous towards the 257R, in your view, so be it.

KB

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...and I had one deer get away wounded, which was my fault not the rifle or cartridge.

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Originally posted by 416Tanzan:
Can a deer tell the difference between a 243Win and a 257Roberts? Me thinks not.

How about a 223 in the one direction or a 260 in the other, can the deer tell the difference?

I think the answer is yes against the 223, though it will kill deer. We shot a number of small antelope in Africa with a 222. It worked fine on oribi and tommy, but just barely at the impala level. No question that a 7x57, 7-08, or 270 was significantly better.